updated processing and/or sketch

[Esselle]

Good morning, I realized some parts that exploit references and I have these alerts at the end of the browser!

I'll explain how I worked. I made a tubular structure that is a part, above the tubular I applied plates that are other parts and all this forms a set. then I put some cover plates that I shaped, projecting with convert entities the plates previously inserted, also these plates are part of the same together.
the image of the browser is precisely referred to the assieme in question, I also attach an image of the situation.

How can I be sure that the parts I've made by projecting other geometries are correct?

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

http://help.solidworks.com/2018/italian/solidworks/sldworks/c_understanding_the_update_path.htm

How can I be sure that the parts I've made by projecting other geometries are correct?

You must always keep the reported files open. in the options, in the external references tab, there is the entry loaded documents with references, set on everything; now when you open a carter you will automatically open referencing files and you will be sure that the geometries will be updated

 

[Esselle]

Hi, I found what you indicate to me, it should be this, and I put it on like this.
despite this I read this in the browser at the opening of the total that contains both the processed carter and the details that allowed me to work them.
the only difference I can imagine is that the first cut was made within a set called structure, composed, as I said in the previous post, by a tubular frame(a part) with welded plates (other parts) and the carter also welded them (other parts still).
the second cut was made by projecting the edges of a part present in a subaxieme contained as the structure in the overall axieme.

igo image explanatory
the carters are contained in the axieme sted_2000 while the parts that allowed the work in moab_2001, all this is contained in gira_2000.

the problem is the second cut of processing that results with question mark and that therefore, in my opinion, does not update by moving the position of the details or changing their size.

I apologize for length.. .

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

Did you do that?

 

[Esselle]

Yeah, I did.

is it not that between different subaxis this "association" does not work?

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

try removing the tick to upload documents only in memory when you see the question mark click on it and open (or change.. I don't remember) contextual

 

[Esselle]

I took off the check.

then opening a carter and clicking with the right button appears this:
if I click on contextual change, it simply opens the axieme turn_2000 (the big main one and the only open one) without that happening anything else.

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

question mark click on

on the function with the question mark

 

[Esselle]

I clicked on the extrusion 3 cut function with the right and if then click on contextual change opens the axieme turn_2000

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

if then click on contextual change opens the axieme gira_2000

the reference is to that file. is also written in the father's report.
what do you find in file> find references ?

 

[Esselle]

I attach two pictures:

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

Let's start from scratch that I'm not getting anything.
the question mark means that the sketch is not solved because it is a function with references out of context.this means that until the file with the reference does not open the geometry will not be updated.
so to update and make the question mark disappear, you have to open the or the related files.
if a part is changed in a set by adding a sketch (and possible function) using geometries of another part the references are only to the axieme.
therefore, by opening contextually on the side will open the reference axieme and not the part with the shared geometry, this because the function was created in the context of the axieme.
by making menu file> find references (which already indicated in a previous post) the reference files appear.
if opening the part there are sketches out context you must open the reference file (through contextual modification on the sketch; However, this does not imply automatic updating of the part that must be done manually with ctrl+q.

 

[Esselle]

I get it, I'll take it back with an example.

I have a set consisting of two subaximes a and b

the axieme b is composed of several parts and I change one by making a cutting process by taking to make the sketch of the references (converted entity) on a part contained in the axieme a. then I do other cutting processes taking references from parts contained in the same set b.

the reopening of the assembly c, after having updated in all ways, the work done on the part of the assembly b taking references from parts of the same together b are ok while the work done taking references from parts of the assemblies to result with the ?.

This is the situation, now if you can do what I want, I do not understand why it loses references, otherwise it means that what I want is not possible to do it.

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

I'll train you with sub-assistances where I think I've reproduced your situation.
Tell me if it's correct.
in this case the sketches are updated even if they refer to different subaxis.
Specifically the modified file is l5 landing contained in the landing aid and in which the functions:
cut-extrude 3 refers to _l5 structure
cut-extrude 4 refers to _l5 structure
cut-extrude 5 refers to landing

 

[Esselle]

Yes, I looked, the situation is exactly this. so what I want to do is possible to do it, only that I can't and I don't understand why....

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

I don't know what else to say to you

 

[Esselle]

I can try to remove a workmanship and do it again, because the only difference with your example is that my situation is with more nested assemblies, but it should not make a difference.

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

beyond personal knowledge that never enough,

But this could be the problem.
it has been seen with a problem of many hairs in which a subaxieme of second .the level, that is a subaxieme contained in a subaxieme, was not updated https://www.cad3d.it/forum1/threads/disegno-assieme-problema-configurazioni.57319/

 

[Esselle]

I read, we should try. but reproducing the situation precisely. As soon as I have some time I try in the meantime I will have to be careful, very careful! thank you for the support!

 

[Esselle]

Good morning, I'll take the tread because I did some tests, even reproducing all levels of nesting the axieme. I have no problem with the new parts, with the aid "real" instead these problems remain. I also did the work from scratch. to be safer in the assemblies I created for verification, I also did various restructuring operations, changing the level components several times, but I never had problems. I think it'll stay without explanation.