varie su quote autocad

[ragnol]

I understand my barbino level, but be patient:

- if, created a aligned quota, I wanted to place it at 0.10 not from the references I took, but from a different point (e.g. a edge), is there any way? I'll explain. selected two points to quote, before typing "0.10" for the move I would first indicate to autocad from where to measure this 0.10... (I often happen with shaped carpenters etc.)

- in sema (cad-cam software) I can create a total quota (extremely-extremely of the item to quote), place it where I want compared to a point (see question above, in sema just right click and select the point from which I want to measure the move) and then divide it to create partial quotas compared to holes, pockets etc. In practice I can create 3 copies of a total quota, and then divide the first to quota the holes and the second to quote other works, leaving the most external as total (e.g. by case). in autocad is possible?

thanks for any answers.

ps: if someone wonders why they are so denied with autocad, despite the "tanti" years of work...it is that for twenty years I use dedicated programs (those in signature, as it could be for you caia) and use autocad only for side jobs. But now I would like to become a little more productive. . .

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

- if, created a aligned quota, I wanted to place it at 0.10 not from the references I took, but from a different point (e.g. a edge), is there any way? I'll explain. selected two points to quote, before typing "0.10" for the move I would first indicate to autocad from where to measure this 0.10... (I often happen with shaped carpenters etc.)

making a 0.10 offset of the reference, fixing the quota and eliminating the amount of offset

- in sema (cad-cam software) I can create a total quota (extremely-extremely of the item to quote), place it where I want compared to a point (see question above, in sema just right click and select the point from which I want to measure the move) and then divide it to create partial quotas compared to holes, pockets etc. In practice I can create 3 copies of a total quota, and then divide the first to quota the holes and the second to quote other works, leaving the most external as total (e.g. by case). in autocad is possible?

you have to do three times the quota command then if you want to quota the partials after the quota launch the command continuing

 

[ragnol]

making a 0.10 offset of the reference, fixing the quota and eliminating the amount of offset

Okay, that's what I do now, but when I have dozens of odds, maybe with the offset line that stays under the quota... I knew there was a more "clean" procedure, like in sema and dietrich's where you fly by clicking "right button" on the reference and then moving the quota of "0,10".

you have to do three times the quota command then if you want to quota the partials after the quota launch the command continuing

Here too, that's what I do now. So there is no possibility to divide an existing quota into two-three-four quotas? to divide, I intend to insert later quotation points.

absolutely personal consideration: I am based on the fact that a program that costs (because it costs!!), which is a member of the design (it is called autocad at the bottom, no), does not give the possibility of having aid that instead provides the banner part "cad" of programs that do anything else. I really feel incredible. my opinion, not shared.

to make another example: both mentioned software always provide a "snap" at a distance that varies according to the zoom: if I am far it offers me steps from 10-20-30, if we zoom forward it proposes 5-10-15, then 1-2-3, then 0.2-0.4-0.6, then 0.01-0.02-0.03....for who is accustomed, it is a great comfort (obviously it is possible not to respect the proposed steps).

 

[Legs]

but why don't you just use the quick share?
select the elements to measure in one shot and he does all the partials.
then I don't think autocad can discern between pockets and holes? for him are all graphic objects. Maybe what you ask specifically does the mechanical version.
However, with some attention in the selection phase, it is not so difficult to get him to automatically quote what you need.

to set a precise distance of quotas you can use the "da" osnap or select the reference point and move as needed but you must have set the osnap with object pointing.
if you are not practical you should do as Massivonweizen said and simply pull a line and use it as a reference to place the odds.
In this case I know that the version for mechanics has this function.

 

[ragnol]

i osnap them habitually, and those that I do not always active I call them with shift+right key.

I'll try to do what you say legs, maybe I find a world!

while thanks to to todos

 

[ragnol]

try:

- the osnap "from" works well (I never used it, basically)

- with the quick share I do a good 75% of the job in no time.

What to say, thank you!

ps: I have a problem. both when I create a single quota, and a quick quota (I just made some attempts), and type the distance to which to place it, sometimes puts it to the perfect distance, sometimes it resembles him, sometimes it does not hit anything. What's wrong? I'm careful with the mouse on the right side, but what else can I do?

 

[ragnol]

other thing that would be comfortable: I can make fast quotation only for orthogonal lines (vertical or horizontal).

Is there a way to make it parallel to a tilted line?

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

other thing that would be comfortable: I can make fast quotation only for orthogonal lines (vertical or horizontal).

Is there a way to make it parallel to a tilted line?

launch the ucs command with object mode, select a tilted line then use the fast quotation.
then open the ucs command and use the global mode to return to the original x and y axis

 

[Legs]

I normally use the osnap with object pointing and I had completely forgotten that a positioning error could happen using the da. even if a little uncomfortable the problem is solved using a relative distance of the type: @0.60 instead of the only 60 (number taken randomly). I don't know why it works perfectly.
to work on the inclined quotas you can set the object uct and then generate the quota.
eventually use the flat command to automatically rotate the design according to the new ucs. It is more convenient to work with the parallel selection window to the axes.
If you want you can set the uscfollows variable to value 1 so that with the rotation of the ucs you automatically rotate the design (honestly I prefer to do it manually).

p.s.
Massivonweizen excuse, I repeated what you said.

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

p.s.
Massivonweizen excuse, I repeated what you said.

We'd miss it, did you upgrade my answer? .
And you taught me the ucsfollow variable, not bruscolini.

 

[ragnol]

Damn it, interventions #8 and #9 have to reread them well and make some evidence.
Now I have to finish the boards, but then I try and get you.

 

[Cristallo]

absolutely personal consideration: I am based on the fact that a program that costs (because it costs!!), which is a member of the design (it is called autocad at the bottom, no), does not give the possibility of having aid that instead provides the banner part "cad" of programs that do anything else. I really feel incredible. my opinion, not shared.

often users wonder "it's never possible that..." instead of asking "what I can't do... "
and with the same frequency they interrrogate on how it is possible that such program do this and autocad do not do it, forgetting that often there are appropriate verticals (mechanical, architectural etc.).

another route (in my way to see more clean mooolto) is to increase the gap between point of quotation and start of the quotation line. the change in the quota style, lines section offset value from origin point. this change affects all odds with that style, but it is also possible to force it by single or group of quotas (local change). Local modification is a transferable property through matching property.

other underrated command (which I use currently) is the dimcontinue.
Suppose we have 5 points to quote I have to quote the total (1->5) and the 4 intermediates.
I make the first quota (1->2), the place where it serves, if I don't want the move down or more so by grip...
afterdiche" dimcontinue" and select in sequence points 3-4-5-1. the new quotas will start from the last created (but you can also specify a different one), assuming the position of the quota line. arrived at point 5, I click on 1 and get the total. I click on the last quota and with the grip I draw a peline more on the battery of the 4 intermediates.
with 7 clicks in total you have 1 total+4 intermediates perfectly aligned.
easier to do than write it. . .

 

[Cristallo]

It forgives the picca, but to find (and I find it, trust) quoted drawings with quotation points not on the object or point that quoto is a rag.
If the quota points the object, I will iron the object and also comes behind the quota. As you do, iron the object and the quota remains where it was. and the design becomes more "stupid".

 

[ragnol]

often users wonder "it's never possible that..." instead of asking "what I can't do... "
and with the same frequency they interrrogate on how it is possible that such program do this and autocad do not do it, forgetting that often there are appropriate verticals (mechanical, architectural etc.).

You're right, I'm supposed to increase the "thing I can't do" in place of "because it doesn't." but I can't use it. but it does not divide the quotas. But you don't have to split them by chance, of course I should give him another reference.
without any controversy, I do not agree on having to buy additional modules of a drawing program, to do things that already allows the program of the washing machine, always in cad (hyperbole to clarify the concept).

 

[ragnol]

It forgives the picca, but to find (and I find it, trust) quoted drawings with quotation points not on the object or point that quoto is a rag.
If the quota points the object, I will iron the object and also comes behind the quota. As you do, iron the object and the quota remains where it was. and the design becomes more "stupid".

I don't understand that. You mean me? because in my sad drawings falls the references of the quota lines remain in their place (except local mistakes my).
I have not understood why you assume that my quotas are untied by what produced them. I'm interested, because maybe you've caught aspects of my work I don't even know about. . .

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

Remember that to space the quotas you can use the grid (f7 if I don't remember bad) to set the space to please

 

[Cristallo]

I have not understood why you assume that my quotas are untied by what produced them

reading, I understand you prefer to quote sowhile what I mean as tied to the object is thisDo I understand?

 

[ragnol]

In principle you understood wrong. I set the length of the fixed reference lines, the aesthetic result is that of the first image, but the "points" remain on the object as in the second.

regarding this mode of mine, on a forum very oriented to mechanics like this there will be those who have the conies :d....to my disclpa (and as perhaps I had already written in other threads) in building thickness, type and color of the lines, of the retini, typology and "esthetics" of the quotas are left to the free initiative of the single.
as a company we touch 400-500 jobs a year (from flea to elephant) and I can not tell graphically how many tables are similar....but they are very few.

Perhaps the bim a little at a time will lead to harmonize the graphic representation also in construction, who knows... what is sure is that there is no rigor present in mechanics.

 

[Cristallo]

you're in the middle of it.
save you because you leave the grips of the odds where they have to stay. I'm inferring to the stylistic choice.
And I'm not talking about mechanics, I'm not mechanical, I'm talking about building.
Forgive me if I punch you, but your choice, albeit "esthetically" pleasant, often leads to confusion on the field, if you do not have the file.
and I'll give you a quick example:Do you think they have the same readability? also taking into account that maybe you're reading an omino in the cross on a bridge table, or a guy immersed in a cloud of dust of a windy construction site?
I don't want to convince you, you know.
is only a point of reflection, from the bottom of the (arm) over 15 thousand tables produced since I work.. .

put them on this rock the odds like you do, and imagine the guy who reads them while in the yard

 

[ragnol]

ah well, there is no doubt that as you say there is no possibility of misunderstanding. sometimes you should leave the aesthetics lost.. .