which model is the most suitable?

[JointRent]

Hello, everyone!
I'm going to the point, recently the company where I work has finally decided to buy a software cad, being the only one who has a "minimum " idea how to use a modeler cad I was in charge of choosing which .
My problem is precisely in choosing ... the only 3 software I know are solid edge , autocad and google sketchup .
Since the use required by the company is to recreate settings such as exhibition stands, audio/light installations in local and similar premises, and being my "study " on software cad limited to mechanical modeling (solid edge is the software I know better ) , I find it difficult to find the right "machine" .
can you tell me one or more software indicated to this use and if possible from the cost " enough " contained? (I do not think they are so decisive, since it is the first software that they purchase, to move high figures for such use )

I thank you in advance for the availability, and for the loan of "experience" (which unfortunately lacks me! ) .

cordial greetings .

- andrea -

 

[maxopus]

only setting and renderings or even industrialization produced?
If it is only making presentations and renderings then it is better not to buy a cad, I can recommend you for example cinema4d of the maxon.
has very similar features to 3d study but, costs less and is easier in approach.

If instead you have to make industrialization produced on cad you can have fun, of course I would recommend you pro/e ... but, they tell me that I am a part because I am a user/supporter , then someone will come to propose you solidworks and someone else to propose you inventor, someone else still solid edge and so on.

 

[JointRent]

Let's put it in a nutshell that I'll explain better: ... I should practically recreate an environment with headlights, crates, poles, supports in traliccio (called American ) , etc... so I have to vary between the most sniper office elements ( chairs and tables ) to more "specific objects" of my field as American , headlights, audio systems , so I need a software that allows me quickly and easily to " create " elements and assemble them graphics, having

I hope I have explained well :biggrin: , if so do not hesitate to ask and thank you for the answers!

 

[enri]

but once you create the elements you have to make only renderings or even design drawings?
if you don't need as a design tool it's okay also a sw for 3d and render, I can report luxology way, create objects, put them in the library and then mount them, you have a rendering preview in real time and a motor to make very well done and fast, take a look at some video.
if you also need the design you so much rhino+space claim+ a rendering plugin, excluding expensive cads of higher end.

 

[maxopus]

Perhaps my question has not been clear.
do you need the program for executives to send to production and suppliers??
because at modeling speed a parametric cad 3d is definitely more performing and fast than a 3d graphics program like cinema4 or 3dstudio ... but it costs 3/4 times more and does not have the rendering power of the latter.
generally the winning combination is the cad modeler + graphics program.
I give you a practical example: my brother designs custom-made furniture for hotels, show rooms, outlets and houses.

with solidworks realizes all the project in 3d, puts it on the table, compels it and passes all the executives to the producing companies.

then takes the project export and makes it in cinema 4, because the rendering engine of cinema 4 is definitely more performing, but with cinema 4 you can not make table and constructions or developments of the parts in sheet metal.

 

[JointRent]

ninth ... in itself and for if what I have to do is just create a library of objects that I need and assemble them to show a possible final installation or more possible variables.
There is nothing to send to production or similar things, only a series of possible solutions for a final result, the pieces are already existing!

 

[maxopus]

The answer is to my previous intervention.
go on a 3d graphics program, save money (we should be on 1,200 euros or maybe less for cinema 4) and get higher quality presentation renderings.
to this you can accompany an open source program such as inkscape for the layouts, inserting texts and comments in combination with images to render.
Of course there are others like 3dstudio ... but I think it is a little more hostical and costs more.

 

[enri]

at this point you can also try blender that is open.

 

[gil]

I for a certain period have done your own job, if the jobs you do fall into the market average and we make stand from 50'000 euros then usual modeling software as cinema, 3dstudio, etc. are a very wrong choicethe main problem lies in the amount of time used for the realization of 1 single job. instead you will have to make many projects to make the work profitable. on the other hand nobody and I say no set up make photorealistics pushed for a maximum quote. they make themselves true but simple enough. photorealistics are done only in order confirmation, and generally pay aside if the stand is small. Therefore at the end the mileage thing is the good old autocad, to which it is good to implement a custom menu containing the blocks of your furniture. also because we can use the standard chair of archicad if you give the customer a different one. and at the fixed time allows to make of good level, ok is not cinema but of good level.
if you want more delucidations, or know how to modify autocad ad oc contact me in pvt. personally I would let blender stay, too.

 

[enri]

from the low cost... and autocad tips? And he doesn't even do everything he needs. . :
If you happen to model a lighthouse, a chair, or other complex geomeria objects you shoot with autocad. at this point better rhino tenmla times, and with a rendering plugin costs him less than a quarter and is more productive. I recommended way because it is one of the best subd.surf modelers, do things in a moment, it has a very simple bookcase, from which they drag besides materials to the flight, also various preset objects etc., a preview of rendering in real time among the fastest, in which you immediately see the result, and a motor of rendering very fast and of very high quality, it seems to me a very productive and economic solution, on the six hundred euros it seems to me.

I'm thinking bonzai, from formz developers, looks like sketchups, but it has many more functions. in video you see how easy and quick it is to create and edit any object, including cloud surfaces. from the coming v.2 will also have the rendering engine of formz.

 

[gil]

If you happen to model a lighthouse, a chair, or other complex geomeria objects you shoot with autocad.

I modeled them quietly, you also have to think that once you put the items in the library it is not that you change them every day. Just put them in the drawing, move them. the host does not buy new ones. with the list command, you export data for estimates and warehouse management.
autocad 2010 I think they sold it to you to about 5'000 euros, I don't remember well.

He costs less than a quarter

How much does rhino cost?

 

[maxopus]

Well... at the end it costs as much as a basic license of pro/engineer, more than enough for the use you have to do, but if you allow it is all another story.
in pro/engineer also inserted the mental rendering engine ray, which is not bad at all.

 

[marcof]

from the low cost... and autocad tips? And he doesn't even do everything he needs. . :
if you happen to model a lighthouse, a chair, or other complex geomeria objects you shoot with autocad

quoto! I'm imagined to model in 3d an American with whirlwind supports, headlights etc with acad. a delirio

 

[JointRent]

In the meantime, thank you all for the advice, I have observed some software that you have recommended to me, cinema equipment4 (I downloaded the demo and it is not going! ), which I liked very much (although I already knew it ) but I do not find it indicated , what interested me most is way of luxology!
excellent final graphics, not too difficult to learn (or at least so it seems) and from the cost I would say more than content ( 700€! ) .
Now, if someone already has experience with this software, am I taking the correct choice? is it actually as easy as it seems to use?

I'm sorry if I ask you so much... but if I make the wrong choice they're messed up...

Thank you again!

 

[etc]

made the choice?

 

[Marcogeo]

I see only now the discussion ... if the choice has not yet been made I can suggest vectorworks in spotlight version ... specially designed for the needs of the author of the post.

 

[c3kkos]

vote for rhino!! !

I look great, import/export everything, is intuitive, light and scalable, one of the best for surfaces, acceptable in solid modeling.. built-in rendering engine does not misfortune (does not give photorealism) or integrated with specific plug-ins (see v-ray or flamingo)

I also think it is more used than "modo luxology". . .

 

[listastudio]

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