solar light: what a big kiss!

[melastudio]

you have ever tried to generate vector shadows by setting sun parameters and starting calculation :biggrinallplan use 2006.2):

surprise surpresina:biggrin:................. try to measure the real shadow generated by the sun in that day and at that time:

The difference is huge between reality and the shadow calculated by allplan!!

We don't talk about a few cm but about a difference of the order of 1/2 meter or more.

less bad that the settings allow you to set up lat. and long. + now legal/solar (all a bunch of feseries!!!!).

but I say, if I want to do an analysis of how the sun is projected on a window of a building to make some (even approximate) energy considerations, but reliable with allplan I do nothing.

I'd be curious to know if anyone ever tried what I described.

 

[Ezio Olivato]

but read the rules of the forum..... before you put on Yelling!! Did you feel so tiring?

 

[melastudio]

egr. Mr. Ezio olivero the rules of the forum are listed below and I read them: It seems to me that expressing a disagreement on a function that "does not work" and asking if any user has solved the problem somehow does not seem to me at all that it is screaming. (if screaming is meant to write in case I apologize, I had not thought about it).

But then, I'm sorry if I allow myself to ask why he responds to this post if (as I think I see from the profile) he doesn't use allplan and gets so hot.

I think I am sufficiently in the right to be annoyed by certain functions (there are others unfortunately that just do not work and it is not that I do not know how to use them: the same assistance that gets scrambled updates has not been able to tell me anything about their malfunction).



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[Ezio Olivato]

exactly I was referring only and simply to writing in capital! ! !
and if I can afford it, it doesn't seem like a whole page is just an oversight!
While I am not able to give my opinion to you on the subject of the subjects you have expressed, I would wait patiently for the intervention of experts most quoted!

 

[maurizio2]

I have no experience of bim, but I was presented allpal by an experienced person and seemed to me an exceptional tool, perhaps for the lack of comparisons with other similar programs. Why would you want to go to revit?

 

[myface]

you have ever tried to generate vector shadows by setting sun parameters and starting calculation :biggrinallplan use 2006.2):

surprise surpresina:biggrin:................. try to measure the real shadow generated by the sun in that day and at that time:

The difference is huge between reality and the shadow calculated by allplan!!

We don't talk about a few cm but about a difference of the order of 1/2 meter or more.

less bad that the settings allow you to set up lat. and long. + now legal/solar (all a bunch of feseries!!!!).

but I say, if I want to do an analysis of how the sun is projected on a window of a building to make some (even approximate) energy considerations, but reliable with allplan I do nothing.

I'd be curious to know if anyone ever tried what I described.

how did you assess the difference between real projected shadow and revit recreated shadow?

 

[gfrank]

....

but I say, if I want to do an analysis of how the sun is projected on a window of a building to make some (even approximate) energy considerations, but reliable with allplan I do nothing.
......

If you're sure of kissing, maybe you should report it to the software house.
surely will thank you for discovering such a mistake...

.....I think I am sufficiently in the right to be annoyed by certain functions (there are others unfortunately that just do not work and it is not that I know not to use them: the same assistance that gets scrambled updates has not been able to tell me anything about their malfunction)....

more than annoyed I would say, if so are things,
you should be inxxxxxto, but with the software house, and not with cad3d users

Hello and... to the next...


p.s. the rules are read all:

5) general forum rules: http://www.cad3d.it/forum1/showthread.php?t=13677in which:
....

6) capital - it is forbidden to write using all capitals. on the internet is equivalent to shouting, so it can bother you.

 

[chandler]

how did you assess the difference between real projected shadow and revit recreated shadow?

See that he was referring to allplan not to revit

 

[myface]

See that he was referring to allplan not to revit

is true excuse the refuso :redface:. What happened to this speech? no longer saw the shadow...:biggrin:

 

[melastudio]

in response to gfrank (I still apologize for the capitals, but it was just a mega magazine).

the problem that I had found on the calculation of the shading I had reported to the referent sw house distributrice for Italy (of thirty per word to us) during the presentation of the version 2008 (so well 2 years ago):

result: nothing!

with some colleagues who use the release 2009 I have verified that things have not changed and then (according to a fellow collaborator still under contract of assistance sw), I am trying to clarify the matter, but I have still tried again today and rechecked all the parameters:

This is what happens to us: I try to measure the real shadow brought by a 50 cm high rod on the floor at a certain time of the day; then imposed the parameters in allplan (same time, same day, etc.) and the result is the following (without wanting to do too much the pinions)

real shadow of about 100 cm (1 meter):smile:
shadow calculated by allplan cm 53 (half!!!!!!):

I wanted to use allplan with the module specifically written for solar simulation, but how can I rely on a sw that makes me such mistakes?

I am curious to have exhaustive answers from the assistance (for the moment it has been a day since I called and have not yet been contacted) .... I will let you know the future developments.

 

[melastudio]

I finally came to the head of the matter:

I went directly to do some tests with allplan 2009 at the studio of my colleague, (but before I had stormed the sw house of requests for clarification on the non-function of my shadow module, but neither they had indicated to me that it could be a mistake linked to the version of the program and that it had been resolved .... one thing so they should know!)
and I have found that actually the troubles are due to the version in my possession prior to 2009.

at this point or I care about the problems of wrong shadows or I have to cum a lot of € to buy the update.... bah? I'll think about it!

However, in the end of the 2009 release, the calculation of shadows is no longer wrong (depending on the evidence I did).

 

[melastudio]

I'm answering mauritius.

according to the cost of allplan you would expect a working efficiency and a far greater operativity for a whole series of functions, abachi, possibilities and automatisms (in revit I saw present at the fair many functions I hoped were present in allplan and as they were not 15 years ago, they are not: Allplan seems to me that instead of updating it remains constantly on its basic functions with small adjustments from one version to another, but only of modest entity).

Boh? it will be that the grass of the neighbor is increasingly green......., but observing revit seemed more green to me!

 

[gfrank]

thanks to the update....

I don't know anything about software development, but from what I hear around (...noises...) it seems that the "motor" of allplan is an old-fashioned "po", so also developments must take into account this peculiarity. . .
implement a software with a new function, which keeps the "motor" engaged for a given period at maximum speed, inhibits proper use of the sw for other functions ...
for such reasons, some (or many) times, the need for implementation of the sw (valid for all sw), which appear obvious to users, are not made ...

 

[pfp89]

hi guys are new here and I started working with allplan 2009 in the same month of his presentation at the bologna fair. I'm looking to use the program best by learning step by step but every time there's always a problem. after a few months I realized that allplan must be arranged from the beginning (pennines, thickeners, colors) and that is how I am fixing all the program to not have problems in the future (see that in the past I have had many). a big rock I can't get through is the command upload from catalogue. I am not looking for how to use or how to save objects or symbols because that is simple...I need to know how to delete the files present within the office catalog since those who worked here before me with allplan 2008 had a sense of the order quite wrong and with the upgrade of 2009 I brought everything behind me... I hope in an exhaustive answer from all of you... thank you in advance

 

[melastudio]

for any operation you have to do on the archives of symbols, pictures, etc. just go to project-pilot (voice in the file menu) and you can move them, delete, etc. any archive item.:finger:

 

[pfp89]

thank you very much melastudio.. . simple and right answer:finger:... thank you again.. .

 

[pfp89]

guys should ask a question about export from on site survey (other nemetschek program) to allplan.. - Does anyone know how to connect? ? ?
or can I do it here and maybe find an answer?

 

[melastudio]

If you say what you want to know, maybe I can help you.

Hi.

 

[pfp89]

I solved by myself thanks...cmq the problem was that when I imported the relief from on site survey to allplan I could not export the walls...after I realized that it was necessary that on site survey I had to be on the plane level to porter so export the masonry created on site...
I leave it written as I solved if anke happens to someone else:finger:

 

[basula89]

melastudio automatically tells me that allplan renderings are not a great deal and I think they are more than enough to give the idea of maximum of the project....if you want serious renderings you take other software that can make them (rhino, cinema 4d, 3d studio) and I bet that the users of the forum are much better than me to recommend others!! !