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[valeria_emme]

Hi, I need help. I just registered and I don't know if I'm good at writing here... However I have to realize a project that includes the study of a piece... but my first problem is to understand what piece it is... I guess it's a tree support, but I'd like to have more precise information... What's the hole for? Why are there those grooves on the sides? I did a first draft on the project, but I would like to know what you think...
thanks for the help

 

[bisogna_rimanere_umili]

Hi, I need help. I just registered and I don't know if I'm good at writing here... However I have to realize a project that includes the study of a piece... but my first problem is to understand what piece it is... I guess it's a tree support, but I'd like to have more precise information... What's the hole for? Why are there those grooves on the sides? I did a first draft on the project, but I would like to know what you think...
thanks for the help

I don't understand. You've done a project, but you don't know what your design needs? Boh!

Maybe I just say cabbage:
hole on the base for fixing/mounting, ladders for not having a rotation. . .

 

[valeria_emme]

I had thought that the grooves served as a guide, to slide the piece... Otherwise I can't explain why they have the same height of the step at the foot of the vertical part. . coincidence?
Would it not have been more appropriate to put a socket instead of the hole?

 

[valeria_emme]

I don't understand. You've done a project, but you don't know what your design needs? Boh!

No, my project involves the study of the piece that I was assigned... I have already made evaluations about the size of the housing for the bearing, the loads you have to endure, the material... My ratings are based on size... but now I have doubts, especially on the basis of the piece and its function (support of a tree is too generic). .
I don't know if I could explain myself

 

[MBT]

Yes, but if you don't know how and where it is mounted. . .
are all "academic" considerations
is like looking at a bearing and trying to understand it and studying it
first you have to see the context, as it is mounted, where it is mounted, which loads must bear. . .

 

[valeria_emme]

but my task is "academic"... I have to look at the design and understand what it is and what it is for... the starting point is the quoted design, the rest is my...

 

[MBT]

then, "fairly speaking." .
that piece there is the support of the spit of a roast
the hole on the base serves, of course, to hold it still, using a screw (say m16) and a bushing in insulation material
the two grooves on the sides serve to prevent the rotation of the piece (the screw is not enough, being one)
it has decided to make 2 rectangular grooves as they are economical and mate well with the two ridges that can be obtained by punching the base sheet, where the piece in question is rested

What do you say?
without other info what I gave you is a plausible explanation. ...

 

[valeria_emme]

for me was a support for a tree of a hydraulic pump or some machinery for the textile industry... (I saw the small footprint)... as an explanation for rectangular grooves I hypothesized that there are no normal traction forces at the symmetry axis... also loads slightly heavy therefore a feg520 steel.. .

 

[SHIREN]

Hi, I need help. I just registered and I don't know if I'm good at writing here... However I have to realize a project that includes the study of a piece... but my first problem is to understand what piece it is... I guess it's a tree support, but I'd like to have more precise information... What's the hole for? Why are there those grooves on the sides? I did a first draft on the project, but I would like to know what you think...
thanks for the help

Hi.
but instead of quotating that piece in the three d
Why don't you make a nice table in the three views and a nice central seat?

instead of thinking of getting the piece through operation mecc in acc.ecc
begin to think if you could obtain it by means of fusion of less noble materials but certainly cheaper
Thank you very much

 

[valeria_emme]

But that's what I have to do... This is the end... now I prepare the model for melting on the ground... but before I do this I have to understand the real use to be able to establish whether I have to design souls or if I make holes to machines and leave the full model (obvious choice) :redface:

 

[Preparation-H]

Hi.
but instead of quotating that piece in the three d
Why don't you make a nice table in the three views and a nice central seat?

instead of thinking of getting the piece through operation mecc in acc.ecc
begin to think if you could obtain it by means of fusion of less noble materials but certainly cheaper
Thank you very much

quoto, and given the piece I think the best solution is fusion. . .

I do not understand however how to define where this piece can be applied, seeing it so could go in 100000 different applications...

So I think you choose the one you like:smile:... you can't guess. . . :biggrin:

Bye!
p-h

 

[c._mauro]

But that's what I have to do... This is the end... now I prepare the model for melting on the ground... but before I do this I have to understand the real use to be able to establish whether I have to design souls or if I make holes to machines and leave the full model (obvious choice) :redface:

Yes, but the actual use, as mentioned above, you cannot understand it backwards, there are at least a thousand solutions where a similar piece can be used.
I said that I worked in textiles, spinning machines and dyes of the fabric carpet and I never saw or used anything like that.
I think this is more than plausible to the support solution for a ruthless turn.

 

[MBT]

I think this is more than plausible to the support solution for a ruthless turn.

:finger::biggrin
You're hungry too, aren't you?? :tongue:

 

[valeria_emme]

I don't know what to say... I accept any useful advice... whatever comes to mind by looking at that strange object
tips on how to make it, anything... (I made a melt in the ground of the full piece, then holes and grooves to the machines... I'm still undecided about the 6mm attack on the base... How do I do that? Do I add material on the starting model? ? ? )

 

[c._mauro]

:finger::biggrin
You're hungry too, aren't you?? :tongue:

Yeah, I ate a spit chicken.
my advice on the problem of identifying "what is needed" is to keep on the general, without giving a purpose too specific if not required: so I would say that we have to deal with a binding support (the two grooves on the sides) and fixed to a plane by screw, m14 with rosette, elastic rosette and bolt if the hole of the support is not threaded, here, I would opt for something like that.
always if you don't have to find a purpose.

 

[MBT]

I don't know what to say... I accept any useful advice... whatever comes to mind by looking at that strange object
tips on how to make it, anything... (I made a melt in the ground of the full piece, then holes and grooves to the machines... I'm still undecided about the 6mm attack on the base... How do I do that? Do I add material on the starting model? ? ? )

depends on how many
If you need one, maybe you're less welded.
If you need 100, it's fine.
I think you have to give some balls to move, since you have no indication
"dead" what you need and how many you need, from there with all the considerations
If it were, for example, the support of the roaster you could say that it is in stainless steel, then the fusion is no longer good. On the other hand you would have to discuss stainless steel "food" and welding techniques, you could talk about how to mill it etc.

 

[MBT]

my advice on the problem of identifying "what is needed" is to keep on the general, without giving a purpose too specific if not required:

for me instead it is good to find the purpose, also because according to the purpose you decide a lot of things

 

[marcof]

I don't know what to say... I accept any useful advice... whatever comes to mind by looking at that strange object

but is it a common practice to provide a design of a mechanical piece and to ask the student "to tell me what it is for and how will you do it?"
It would seem like a more suitable approach to test a designer with 30 years of experience, who has seen all the colors.
Maybe I'm wrong, but asking a student seems very stupid to me (b. this last sentence has already been filtered out and amended by suit what is not educated to write in public; I can't take any more: )

 

[maxopus]

The hole on the base seems to me to be d. 32.
that pins used to fix your roasters the m30? ... eat healthy hippopotamuses. :biggrin::biggrin:

I throw it like that... if you could see the section better:
I'm sorry.

 

[valeria_emme]

The job predicts that I have to do one... by fusion and then with machine processing (anke if it is only one, I must make the fusion because it previews the track)... other since I was given material: steel... the type of steel I decided... I think in feg520.. .