draw channels

[ipotemusa]

Good morning to all those who are still working.
Domandona:
my client wants ke drawings of air channeling, with inventor.
I'm trying to create a part, 3d sketch, loft, but it turns out slow, slender, in short not practical.
What advice do you have to give me?
I with solidedge could create a "structure" using a section to my liking, and so I can channel very quickly.
with pipes and tubing is feasible?
Thank you
hypothesized

 

[GiGa]

I do not use inventor pro (which should have specific tools to do this) but I often happen to a customer to design air pipes for quite large and complicated plants. . .
I solved (with inventor "liscio") by making parametric models using ilogic... I have lost a couple of days to define them, but now it is enough to indicate type of plant, diameter, material and other fundamental data, and I get the pipe according to the customer's specifications (which has a quantity of variables not indifferent).
In my case it is about defining the single component of the pipe that "mount" in the layout of the plant that I create with a series of reference sketches. . .

As soon as I can assess whether the pro can facilitate me in this (economically speaking), I do the upgrade.. .

 

[meccanicamg]

with inventor as for swx there is the module to realize tubular structures. There are also tutorials if I don't remember badly. clearly you will have to define custom tubing patterns. However there is also the do routing module if you use inv pro, look in the guide, there is described how to do, now I do not have it under hand.

 

[cesius79]

with inventor as for swx there is the module to realize tubular structures. There are also tutorials if I don't remember badly. clearly you will have to define custom tubing patterns. However there is also the do routing module if you use inv pro, look in the guide, there is described how to do, now I do not have it under hand.

or put to the narrow uses 3d sketches that solid edge does not have!ciao

 

[ipotemusa]

or put to the narrow uses 3d sketches that solid edge does not have!ciao

mmmm, thinking about building channels with 3d sketch is like wanting to make the ark of noah with toothpicks.
sedge does not have 3d sketch in the parts, but it has it in structures and piping environments.
I personally designed several electric canals with sedge structures, and went like missiles.
I think the + road with inventor is to add the channeling to the centre, and then use the frame generator to connect the various fittings.
other alternatives I have not seen, advice are always well accepted

 

[cesius79]

mmmm, thinking about building channels with 3d sketch is like wanting to make the ark of noah with toothpicks. .

Mah, it seems a bit too much like a comparison! I have designed a tower of a crane using only 3d sketches with inventor and other reticular structures...it is true it is not very fast but in a day you can also make a pretty complex design. .insomma, time is important but the result even more...maybe if you place the scheme we can look together!

 

[ipotemusa]

Mah, it seems a bit too much like a comparison! I have designed a tower of a crane using only 3d sketches with inventor and other reticular structures...it is true it is not very fast but in a day you can also make a pretty complex design. .insomma, time is important but the result even more...maybe if you place the scheme we can look together!

eh, x the scheme I can not, it is customer material (I also signed non-competition pact and secrecy). thanks cmq for availability.
cmq would be excessively slow with sketch3d, with the problem that I should save every piece of channel, etc etc etc etc etc.
the road I would like to follow is that quoted in the prec message, but I am not able to add a piece to the library!

ot: I use sedge for 10 years, and in the last 3 years has deeply disappointed me on the road undertaken by zimenz, without minding minimally to the demands of the clientele.
from a customer use inventor for 1 year and has deeply disappointed me, I thought mooolto better.. .
from another customer use solidworks from 1 year and a half, and between 3 seems to me the + human.

 

[cesius79]

but I'm not able to add a piece to the library!

ot: I use sedge for 10 years, and in the last 3 years has deeply disappointed me on the road undertaken by zimenz, without minding minimally to the demands of the clientele.
from a customer use inventor for 1 year and has deeply disappointed me, I thought mooolto better.. .
from another customer use solidworks from 1 year and a half, and between 3 seems to me the + human.

then for the library should not be very difficult. ..look in the help there should be procedure on how to enrich the database or create a customized one. I don't have a cad under my hand or I'd take a look at it!
sw according to me is the best among all even if it has something on the management of the curves in my opinion decidedly better... and inventor a management of the table more optimal... I confess however that I did not try the last versions and that cmq I do not know in a very deep way none of the three. as usual then the more you put on a cad the more you learn to use it better and the more it seems "right"....it's true, for what I heard say also from others, that the system of support to the clientele by itself is painful...it's as if some companies had made fortune in the past and they want now to live out of yield! Mah...

 

[Ilario]

I still have to figure out what you need to draw. . Can you post an example? even if it is not the customer, something like that, an image, something...

 

[Avoplus]

I too, as a delusion, have not understood what kind of "canalizations" you have to do.. .
However, unless denied by anyone who knows more than me, I would recommend pointing to the frame generator: Obviously you have to enter your profile in the cc but, after that, you just have to create a part and build the path (using 3d sketches rather than a combination of 2d sketches using appropriately the plans).
the module "tubes and pipes" has, in my opinion, the big disadvantage of being difficult to "customize" even if, seen use during a training course, it seems that its 3d sketch is more "powerful" than the traditional one. . .

(only for example, if you have to make a curve with spikes with "tubes and pipes" there is to go crazy, with the chassis generator you just have to make the broken axis... )

 

[the.crow]

Hello everyone
I'm colliding with the air channel design.
I would need a library or something like that that that allows me to "take" the piece I need (tee, y, curves, fittings, etc.) and place it in the axieme.
I'm losing my life drawing them all!
thanks to who will give me some news...