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[Fulvio Romano]

I open this thread strictly to my use and consumption, I hope not to violate the laws of good mbt:redface:
It's not much off topic, but I didn't find any other forums to post. . .

I broke the piece in the picture. What makes me nervous is that it's aluminum printed and it broke hard...I'd like to know who the fuck designed it.

How much does it cost me to design steel? should be enough a three-axis center, perhaps with two positions, because there is also a side edge under...

Who could do it in the ear zone?

 

[SHIREN]

I open this thread strictly to my use and consumption, I hope not to violate the laws of good mbt:redface:
It's not much off topic, but I didn't find any other forums to post. . .

I broke the piece in the picture. What makes me nervous is that it's aluminum printed and it broke hard...I'd like to know who the fuck designed it.

How much does it cost me to design steel? should be enough a three-axis center, perhaps with two positions, because there is also a side edge under...

Who could do it in the ear zone?

hi ing.
another forum could be "industrial manufacturing sector"
the piece is in aluminum casting
You might think you can do it again on a normal working center in three axes
with three squares
1) the underlying compartment including holes(which can serve as centering in the next steps)
2) the two fins
3) the two niches
instead of steel you could use a good 70.75 aluminum from extruded bar
I think in a couple of hours of car (fuming 5-6 cigarettes a couple of coffee and if it happens pure na "sveltina"
Ohooo prob.
Thank you very much

 

[Preparation-H]

hi ing.
another forum could be "industrial manufacturing sector"
the piece is in aluminum casting
You might think you can do it again on a normal working center in three axes
with three squares
1) the underlying compartment including holes(which can serve as centering in the next steps)
2) the two fins
3) the two niches
instead of steel you could use a good 70.75 aluminum from extruded bar
I think that in a couple of hours of car (smoking 5-6 cigarettes a couple of coffee and if it happens pure na "Svelt"Ohooo prob.
Thank you very much

Where are you working?
If you need to make a whistle!!!! :biggrin:

Bye!
p-h

 

[SHIREN]

Where are you working?
If you need to do a whistle!!! !

Bye!
p-h

calm preparation.----
the hourly evaluation
was big way to give a commercial valuation
if they give more than 1/4 d'h
I don't need a whistle!! ! ! ! ! ! !
I take the first flight:smile:

 

[MBT]

How many pieces do you need?
I can spend a couple of workshops. . .

 

[Fulvio Romano]

How many pieces do you need?
I can spend a couple of workshops. . .

One piece:redface:

 

[Fulvio Romano]

hi ing.
another forum could be "industrial manufacturing sector"
the piece is in aluminum casting
You might think you can do it again on a normal working center in three axes
with three squares
1) the underlying compartment including holes(which can serve as centering in the next steps)
2) the two fins
3) the two niches
instead of steel you could use a good 70.75 aluminum from extruded bar
I think in a couple of hours of car (fuming 5-6 cigarettes a couple of coffee and if it happens pure na "sveltina"
Ohooo prob.
Thank you very much

I would prefer steel to avoid fatigue breaks. Why do you recommend aluminum?

However, yes, it is an aluminum print, not machined, so surface roughness is not a problem.

Why three squares? Aren't two enough? one for the whole part above plus holes, and another to cut between the two tabs below?

Alternatively, a 5-axis center does it with only one place on the side where there is the aletta.. .

 

[SHIREN]

I would prefer steel to avoid fatigue breaks. Why do you recommend aluminum?

However, yes, it is an aluminum print, not machined, so surface roughness is not a problem.

Why three squares? Aren't two enough? one for the whole part above plus holes, and another to cut between the two tabs below?

Alternatively, a 5-axis center does it with only one place on the side where there is the aletta.. .

Hello fulvio
The piece isn't a print, but it's in gravity aluminum casting.
if you pay attention to the grain in the breaking area there are some brighter parts
this indicates the presence of zinc or ironconfused
that increases its fragility
in truth for such fusions is used g to the si 13-uni 45-14 en-ab 4410
that should not have prob. for similar pieces

if you use an extruded in peralluman 5754 avional 2024/2017 ergal7075
anticorodal 6082-606061
you have no more

I say three places because from the photo you can see a staircase or an exhaustin the subtante part I indicated in the enclosed jpeg

It's a piece of three axes.
It seems to me an excessive moment

Have a good night
Thank you very much

 

[Fulvio Romano]

Hello fulvio
The piece isn't a print, but it's in gravity aluminum casting.
if you pay attention to the grain in the breaking area there are some brighter parts
this indicates the presence of zinc or ironconfused
that increases its fragility
in truth for such fusions is used g to the si 13-uni 45-14 en-ab 4410
that should not have prob. for similar pieces

if you use an extruded in peralluman 5754 avional 2024/2017 ergal7075
anticorodal 6082-606061
you have no more

the piece lives outdoors in the rain, so actually do it of fetente steel (s275jr) then still means having to galvanize it. Maybe it's better to go on some aluminum alloy.

I say three places because from the photo you can see a staircase or an exhaustin the subtante part I indicated in the enclosed jpeg

tomorrow I place a drawing, because from the photo you understand little...

It's a piece of three axes.
It seems to me an excessive moment

Have a good night
Thank you very much

fully agreed

 

[Meccbell]

I agree with brother shiren about the 3 squares in the case of the rear staircase, or 2 if the bottom is flat.
By the way, if the external sides are parallel, the grip should be enough, without any ad hoc tool.

as to the material, starting from the assumption that however the fusion has been made as a rule of art both as a alloy and as a technique, for experiences made with various details reingegnerized from full bar fusion the advantage in terms of pure and simple resistance varies between 20 and 30% while in terms of fatigue it goes also beyond 50%.

Given the alloys normally used for jets on the ground or in the shell, a 6082-t6 from bar should be more than enough, while if you want to make the "sborons" then a 7075 I would say that is the "death his".

for processing: with a couple of hours as time machine "ground to ground" (only time truciole) we should get away.
in these cases the most time is given by programming, setup machine and program testing.
Let us say that in one morning the thing should be feasible, if there are not too many 3d parts to do with passes to a minimum increase.

 

[Meccbell]

p.s.: Could any moderator move the thread to cam-cnc area?
not for anything else, but because the discussion could also affect other users.

♪

 

[Fulvio Romano]

I attach the "reverse engineering" I developed. . .

apart from the times, how much can it cost me? What material do I do? Who am I gonna do that?

 

[MBT]

not to advertise hidden... see pm;-)

 

[SHIREN]

I agree with brother shiren about the 3 squares in the case of the rear staircase, or 2 if the bottom is flat.
By the way, if the external sides are parallel, the grip should be enough, without any ad hoc tool.

as to the material, starting from the assumption that however the fusion has been made as a rule of art both as a alloy and as a technique, for experiences made with various details reingegnerized from full bar fusion the advantage in terms of pure and simple resistance varies between 20 and 30% while in terms of fatigue it goes also beyond 50%.

Given the alloys normally used for jets on the ground or in the shell, a 6082-t6 from bar should be more than enough, while if you want to make the "sborons" then a 7075 I would say that is the "death his".

for processing: with a couple of hours as time machine "ground to ground" (only time truciole) we should get away.
in these cases the most time is given by programming, setup machine and program testing.
Let us say that in one morning the thing should be feasible, if there are not too many 3d parts to do with passes to a minimum increase.

Hello brother me
it is useless to add another "concordance"
(who knows about trucioli knows exactly what is concordance and discordance)
But I'd learn more about the time of realisation
from the design of the fulvio friend it takes the three places
half day costs 4 confetti of those yellow
It doesn't seem too much
also considering the unique piece
It is difficult to repeat
and you have to put on a mathematical model
There's the upper curve surface.
I don't know if you can do it for geometry
while pockets the holes and maybe even fins with a geometry if it can
Thank you very much
a hug:smile:

 

[Fulvio Romano]

Hello brother me
it is useless to add another "concordance"
(who knows about trucioli knows exactly what is concordance and discordance)
But I'd learn more about the time of realisation
from the design of the fulvio friend it takes the three places
half day costs 4 confetti of those yellow
It doesn't seem too much
also considering the unique piece
It is difficult to repeat
and you have to put on a mathematical model
There's the upper curve surface.
I don't know if you can do it for geometry
while pockets the holes and maybe even fins with a geometry if it can
Thank you very much
a hug:smile:

I agree with the three squares. I've seen it wrong.

The color allegory brings me back to my mind 800€, which brings me abundantly out of budget. better buy the original pieces and change them every six months!

the mathematical model??? to make an ellipse? evviva the straight lines, so much is not a piece in coupling. It's all right.

 

[Dylan]

bye,

Sorry about the curiosity. .
Did you do the piece?

dylan

 

[Fulvio Romano]

I had two quotes, one of 150€, one of 75€.
meanwhile the condo administrator had already replaced the piece with one conforms to the original, which then will last at most another year. also without us knowing anything.
So the story is not over... I keep you informed!

 

[meccanicamg]

I looked at it but I can't see only 3 locations if you want to make the drawing piece with a 3-axis machine. I think you have 4:

- starting from parallelepipedo and making contours, 2 pockets and 2 holes
- put up piece and make the crooked
- put in reverse piece compared to the first place and make the lower exhaust
- put the piece on the coast and outline realize the ellipse

In my opinion you should simplify the piece so that it is feasible at less cost, in the end it is a cube with 2 holes, a riding quarry below and two horns. I don't think the rest is good.
I think about an hour you can do it if simplified, then 75 euros with the material I would say it is a price more than honest.