blubossa
Guest
Bye to all,
automatic quotation used? if you with what pros and cons?
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automatic quotation used? if you with what pros and cons?
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Alberto.E
Guest
Well, everything is about how you impose everything during modeling.
I, for example, create the model by inserting references and quotas thinking about how the table should be. Here is that when I create the drawing and recall the quotas from the model I find already half work done, also evaluating the fact that the quotas recalled by the model are editable from the table itself while those added by hand no. I think it is a great tool that if used properly facilitates the work, I do not see anything. Hi.
I, for example, create the model by inserting references and quotas thinking about how the table should be. Here is that when I create the drawing and recall the quotas from the model I find already half work done, also evaluating the fact that the quotas recalled by the model are editable from the table itself while those added by hand no. I think it is a great tool that if used properly facilitates the work, I do not see anything. Hi.
michelix
Guest
I rarely use them.
to use them you must have created the features with criterion in order to make them come out well.
then you have to waste time selecting and adjusting and/or moving them to other views... .
depends cmq on which aprticolari you do.
to use them you must have created the features with criterion in order to make them come out well.
then you have to waste time selecting and adjusting and/or moving them to other views... .
depends cmq on which aprticolari you do.
Prof.
Guest
I obviously use them, I think it's the easiest and most effective way to use pro-e.
maxopus
Guest
I also use them a lot, I find them very useful and save a lot of time.
You have to take your hand and as you have rightly said, you have to think about it in the modeling phase, keeping in mind what the requirements of the table are.
at the end of the fair the works are out very neat.
You have to take your hand and as you have rightly said, you have to think about it in the modeling phase, keeping in mind what the requirements of the table are.
at the end of the fair the works are out very neat.
The_Matrix
Guest
When I used pros, I never used them...
2 reasons:
1) I put a few quotas, only those that documented the work and to do this I was much better to put them directly on the 2d
2) I never dreamed of changing a model from the 2d... maybe because the models I was doing were a little complicated
2 reasons:
1) I put a few quotas, only those that documented the work and to do this I was much better to put them directly on the 2d
2) I never dreamed of changing a model from the 2d... maybe because the models I was doing were a little complicated
Parametric_Ozzy
Guest
e se creavi i layout?:tongue:
The_Matrix
Guest
the layouts I used only in demo... :tongue:
feminish stuff.
when I was seriously modeling (both, I was building, collectors, heads, etc.) you can't use those toys. :finger:
apart from everything, I find that I have to strive to put in modeling quotas (while I am already messed up to make the model come according to my studies) so that mine come to the table is a ca.gata.
I also really find a nonsense to change the quota at the table, since you have no control over what you do and you have to go back to the model to see that it happened.
maximum respect for those who succeed... :4425:
(ps. even nx from 7.5 ha, unfortunately, a similar mechanism: choose from sketches the "meaning" quotas and marks as pmi... then the pmi the heirs in tables... I have already told my ae that the first that suggests to customers to use I'm mechanism I cut his hands)
maxopus
Guest
your assessment is only valid for certain areas.
for many sectors of mechanics is exactly the opposite.
blubossa
Guest
In practice, we need to shape thinking about the table....... .
Could I insert automatic quotas so that the holes are not listed?
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Could I insert automatic quotas so that the holes are not listed?
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Prof.
Guest
I am an ae and I recommend using automatic quotas of pro-e to all my customers. Most of my customers use it and it's fine. all my colleagues ae recommend to customers to use automatic quotas.
then if on the design imposed a tolerance on an automatic quota I find it also on the 3d that I can resize to the maximum, minimum, nominal or average value of tolerance.
therefore the advantage is substantial.
then if on the design imposed a tolerance on an automatic quota I find it also on the 3d that I can resize to the maximum, minimum, nominal or average value of tolerance.
therefore the advantage is substantial.
The_Matrix
Guest
I was speaking in person.
I am sure (and I have maximum respect and admiration for them) that many make great use of it (both automatic quotas and layouts).
for the design I make are quite useless both.
ps: let's say that I think it's just the 2d to be useless, in 2010...:wink:
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The_Matrix
Guest
In my opinion, these things are done in model 3d... and, if you must, forced by the evil urchin, pour them on a table.. .
Parametric_Ozzy
Guest
If you use a parametric intelligently and develop model and table at the same time, then you really should put them automatically.
for mechanical parts not too complicated instead I find it is much faster to do so.
if you want to start deleting the card and give 3d models already listed.. The future is that.
Prof.
Guest
in fact you can do both things or from 2d or 3d.
Moreover in 2010 the 2d is very used also by large companies and still can not do without, therefore it must be done well and in short time and as much as possible associative with the model.
Moreover in 2010 the 2d is very used also by large companies and still can not do without, therefore it must be done well and in short time and as much as possible associative with the model.
The_Matrix
Guest
Let's say it's the present.. .if you want to start deleting the card and give 3d models already listed.. The future is that.
Did you see the document I attached to you above?
analogues are of renault, psa, daimler, etc.
The_Matrix
Guest
depends on the company, I think...
the crudes in 2010 I hope that no one will tell them more.
processing is (in my opinion) easier to quote in 2d directly. If you really have to, since probably, the share of a pavement, e.g., you do it with a "cut" from the rough but the quota you will have to give it from the origin of the zeramento in the car.
Moreover, probably the odds do not come with the classic method in which you put the tolerances +/-, but using the gd&t do not?
cacciatorino
Guest
Maybe it's true for the big Hindu groups. consider that the Italian pil is still made in almost total by small companies. all my customers still require complete 2d boards. working with the "mathematics", as is said in jargon, is admitted only in a few circumscribed cases, such as pads of support of shaped plates, or similar. for the traditional pieces turned or milled you still pass for the 2d, and if you miss the quota they call you.
But I understand that point 2d is a waste of time.
The_Matrix
Guest
Well, it'll be a matter of time, as always.
How long? It depends on how much water puts us up and drown you.
lollone
Guest
I always use and only (except in some particular cases) automatic quotas.
is a very important tool that saves a lot of time.
I think if it's possible you always have to look for the help that you pro-and pay all that money for a program and not exploit it to the fullest? !
cmq surely in certain fields of modeling use automatic quotas is prohibitive!
is a very important tool that saves a lot of time.
I think if it's possible you always have to look for the help that you pro-and pay all that money for a program and not exploit it to the fullest? !
cmq surely in certain fields of modeling use automatic quotas is prohibitive!