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[csici]

according to me you are all right:
I certainly prefer automatic quotas because "I have already inserted them" in 3d and I do not want to "remit them" in 2d, but I understand that those who make fusions or plastic objects objectively in 2010 (but also in 2005) in 2d put only the main quotas manually. especially because those who make moulds and models, in Italy or in the east by now rely only on the 3d for realization and use the 2d only for quality control, not for design.
the large industrial groups have formalized this well in prescriptions, but there is already an asme norm (and perhaps an iso) precisely on the quotas in 3d.
moral: some industrial sectors already operate like this. others, probably, will come if you can automate the "reading" of the model.
I also remember that in our drawing regulations date back to... 50-60 years ago when to save time it was said that you should not dissect the ribs and normalized objects like the screws.
Today, what's the point?

 

[The_Matrix]

according to me you are all right:
I certainly prefer automatic quotas because "I have already inserted them" in 3d and I do not want to "remit them" in 2d, but I understand that those who make fusions or plastic objects objectively in 2010 (but also in 2005) in 2d put only the main quotas manually. especially because those who make moulds and models, in Italy or in the east by now rely only on the 3d for realization and use the 2d only for quality control, not for design.
the large industrial groups have formalized this well in prescriptions, but there is already an asme norm (and perhaps an iso) precisely on the quotas in 3d.
moral: some industrial sectors already operate like this. others, probably, will come if you can automate the "reading" of the model.
I also remember that in our drawing regulations date back to... 50-60 years ago when to save time it was said that you should not dissect the ribs and normalized objects like the screws.
Today, what's the point?

You understand the meaning of my speech perfectly. :wink:
When I was referring to the fact that a model is quoted with gd&t, I was referring precisely to asthma rules.
in fiat entered in 2004.

 

[Parametric_Ozzy]

Let's say it's the present.. .
Did you see the document I attached to you above?
analogues are of renault, psa, daimler, etc.

I would like it to be the present for all yet is not, for this I speak of future..:wink:
Of course I saw him, but that's where I wanted to get there.

 

[simra]

I would like it to be the present for all yet is not, for this I speak of future..:wink:

I think it's a pretty far future because if it's true that all the moldists use mathematicians now, it's also true that some companies can't get away from the boards... I have just finished a big project for a great Italian company of components for automation and we have also requested boards of all aluminum die castings instead of contenting with the only mathematical model...

as they say from my side.... ròb da màt...

 

[Prof.]

in Italy there is not only the fiat that calls for help to the state to go ahead but also many small companies that make great efforts to stay afloat and for which radically change method of design is not easy, in fact the 2d is still so used and not only in small, even in the medium-large.
Bye.

 

[The_Matrix]

in Italy there is not only the fiat that calls for help to the state to move forward

unbearable these common places.. .
Do you think millions of hours of cig were given to the fiat?
Do you think the incentives were "for fiat" and the other industries did not benefit?
Do you think that the thousands of fiat addicts in the south with a productivity of -20% compared to ticky you pay the state?

Mah... Anyway, okay...

Let's go back and talk about automatic quotas.

 

[Prof.]

Here we are only talking about automatic quotas. The fact that fiat uses it or not or uses it or not the 2d gives us little care. Many others use the 2d and should use the automatic quotas of pro-e because it is the best way to make the tables with such software, perhaps not in nx but in pro-e yes.
if then someone wants to use pro-and at 5% of its possibilities is free to do so, but so will never grow and will not increase its productivity.
to pro-e users but also to those of other software (in my opinion) you must teach to progress and grow in your work.
Also in the 3d quotation you can decide to use the automatic or manual quotations, but surely the most convenient are the automatic ones, because already we put them in the sketch, so just pull them out.
Thank you.

 

[maxopus]

the substance is that you went out threads.
the user did not ask whether it is right or not to use the table.
we know very well that managing a listed and annotated 3d model would be preferable to a table (not for all sectors).

the question was about the convenience of using automatic quotation instead of the manual and was asked what personal experiences were about it.

So if we want to express our opinion about it well, otherwise I clean up the discussion and close it.
Amen.

 

[mamobono]

I also use them a lot, I find them very useful and save a lot of time.
You have to take your hand and as you have rightly said, you have to think about it in the modeling phase, keeping in mind what the requirements of the table are.
at the end of the fair the works are out very neat.

I agree with maxopus,
the time you get lost in the schetch phase immediately returns to the table and simplifies you in the stages of adjustment/ modification of the drawing that you can do directly from the 2d (e.g. you think to change a length of a drill or a thread you do it directly on the 2d quota)

It is obvious that for drawings with for example surfaces with tg constraints then solidified guided by curves, changing the odds of a curve on the 2d almost always leads to having to change the 3d
but once you adopt the method we suggest you will see that you benefit

Hi.