assemblaggio pc per vectorworks

[Arch.Salv67]

and84, I can tell you that every extra penny for the purchase of a mac is "benedetto".
I used pc windows from 1996 to 2009.
I don't know how much money I spent on chasing illusory configurations, and I constantly found myself having to solve the same problems (formings, operating system blocks, antivirus slowing down the system etc...).
in 2009 I decided to buy a mac, and from the first week of work I understood the difference.

 

[pla]

anxiety biggrin does not depend on windows but on the program you have to turn.
some cads use opengl libraries instead of the now "comuni" directx of all gaming cards. Obviously a card that implements the specifications via hardware (such as picture and firegl) works better than in software emulation. . that the "problem" is bypassable is another speech. but the above cads certify only the prof. cards, and the same applies to any porting in mac.

"some cad." I repeat - and I conclude - that the sw indicated at the beginning in this discussion do not use gpu, so all the chats made until now are completely vain. If you tell me that the pc will use it to play warcraft or to use maya, then the speech changes.

note to the side - I agree with lory: Win users have almost always anxiety of performance

 

[Md1b3]

more specifically... a 4870 moddata 8700 is enough to me or should I change targets? ? ?

You go ahead, remember that it's a two-year-old card, sometimes it doesn't just count the brute power. in two years that card is like it had 4 while all the rest of the pc will still go great.

 

[Marcogeo]

From my point of view I can only say that once the mac stops thinking about something else and you work. a machine like the mac pro has a useful life much longer than an equivalent (admitted exists in that band) pc win.
a mac changes it only when it is no longer up-to-date in the operating system and this happens more with time laxes in which a professional pc win user replaces three machines with all breaks of formatting, viruses and anything else. in the end a modest greater initial outburst coincides with a sensitive savings already after a short time.

 

[sampom]

Boys,
I repeat that it depends on the use and programs that you are "forced" to use.
they know something about the "fixed" biggrin of apple that they are stubborn to take the new autocad for mac.. I feel like some trouble is having him. or those who boot in win to run the "more common" programs that do not exist for mac.. I find it absurd, if I need those I take a pc that I need to work (if it is bad patience).

that are good machines is well known (more once, now good remains only the os. the rest is all intel and compatible. . But with "dedicated" prices, but they work best (and much better than win) only with original "applications" written specifically.

greetings
Marco:smile:

 

[sampom]

If you tell me that the pc will use it to play warcraft or to use maya, then the speech changes.

No.
I am telling you that the pc I use it exclusively to work (and shit in here:biggrin and programs I use there are only for windows and have certain hardware requests. the "buffe" thing besides is that the gpu is used solo in the modeling phase and heavily in the table. when (and if.. rare in my case as a mechanical "grezzo") steps to rendering the video card becomes useless and does all the processor (which also must be nice toast).

in the sense that. to each his work and his tools

greetings
Marco:smile:

 

[lory.b]

here you are talking about vectorworks, the thread title says it clear.
to a person who asks what is the best hardware configuration to turn vectorworks, historical cad born on mac os, it is obvious that you recommend a mac.
but beyond the choice of the machine and its operating system, it is told also and several times that for this software is not fundamental the video card because, hand tests, if you want the places, it does work mainly the processor, as well as its static rendering engine, which is c4d.
If you want to configure a gaming machine or other software, then this is not the right section to discuss it.
I do.

 

[sampom]

here you are talking about vectorworks, the thread title says it clear.
to a person who asks what is the best hardware configuration to turn vectorworks, historical cad born on mac os, it is obvious that you recommend a mac.
but beyond the choice of the machine and its operating system, it is told also and several times that for this software is not fundamental the video card because, hand tests, if you want the places, it does work mainly the processor, as well as its static rendering engine, which is c4d.
If you want to configure a gaming machine or other software, then this is not the right section to discuss it.
I do.

I can only quote you fully:finger:
At the end we think it the same way.

I only provided some information/curiosity.

..to each his:biggrin:

greetings
Marco:smile:

 

[Md1b3]

Well since the thread title is: "computer assembly for vectorworks", it seemed normal to recommend components per pc evaluating their potential. that then on a mac works almost everything better I give it to know.
I didn't know the video card speech, even if I found a page on the website of vector where it was recommended to use the picture cards to get the most out of the program, but that however normal geforces were fine, of course for win.

other thing: performance anxiety?
could be curious, however, those who build machines with their own hands ask themselves the classic question of how much the actual performance of a component is. it seems quite normal (that both win osx etc..)
Hi.

 

[Marcogeo]

One does well to wonder but if he puts the top I wonder what answer he gave and what sense he had to ask himself the question!

 

[Md1b3]

I fully agree:

 

[enri]

to tell the truth a picture on mac does not have great advantages reopened to win, because on the latter the specific optimized drivers go to replace that opengl of win, something not necessary in os x, that has them by default and they work very well, however it is good to do tests if possible from time to time to seonda of the sw that you use.
Sincerely, however, I have doubts that the viewport of vectorworks is managed more by the cpu, I think it is also technically difficult, explaining how it is possible? However I must say that it is always very fast with 3d models, with any tab.
for the viewport of 4d cinema there is no doubt, it is managed 100% from gpu, while the render obviously from the cpu.

 

[And84]

Hello everyone!! !

I thank all those who have recommended me a mac, I know that they are good machines, but my budget does not allow me to take a quite performing machine. So...

I was a little on holiday and the new i7 based on the technology intel socket 1155, the 2600 has an acceptable price and good performance but is always an entry level... the 2600k has possibility of absurd overclocking that are worth all 300€ that costs However,... there is always one though tongue there are also xeon processors, of the beasts designed specifically for those who work with the pc and do not shit, or of the "professional" processors. . .
Now: xeon is based on intel socket 1366 technology which makes motherboards incompatible that support them with i7-2600 and vice versa. . .
so the idea that at the moment it shakes me for the mind is: mb p6t ws professional supporting xeon series: w5500/3600/3500 x5600/5500 e5600/5500 l5600/5500 (as well as all i7-9xx processors), cpu xeon w3550 (that seemed very similar to the i7-960); I made this choice thinking about a future purchase of a xeon of the 5000 series.. .Is there anyone who can tell me if I thought of a huge boiata? ? ? I don't hide that the idea of making a big caxxata puts me a bit in anxiety:biggrin:
:smile: as usual I thank in advance anyone who wants to answer me :smile:

 

[enri]

It makes no sense to use single xeons, they are used in pairs, and they cost a bang, while having performances completely similar to the i7 counterpart. If you want to take a dual xeon (but the budget goes to get blessed) the macpro becomes even convenient.

 

[And84]

It makes no sense to use single xeons, they are used in pairs, and they cost a bang, while having performances completely similar to the i7 counterpart. If you want to take a dual xeon (but the budget goes to get blessed) the macpro becomes even convenient.

Thank you! ! !
You're perfectly right! !
while having the specifications of the processors under my eye while writing I didn't really think about...who knows where I had my head??? :smile:

 

[Marcogeo]

I have seen the maxi projects carried out comfortably on imac 27" which can certainly not say unprofessional.
always remember that the technical data of mac does not correspond to the actual performance that is found in use. ie, if for a pc it is essential to know ram, ghz and video card to have an idea of the performance, for the mac it is not as necessary.

 

[sampom]

if for a pc it is essential to know ram, ghz and video card to have an idea of the performance, for the mac it is not as necessary.

this is true if you do not insist on "mortifying" booting windows with related programs :biggrin:

greetings
Marco:smile:

 

[And84]

place the list of the components that I ordered...will not be a mac but hopefully I need as well...:biggrin:
I'll let you know how it works
soon :smile:

1 x scythe katana 3
1 x internal hard disk western digital caviar green 500gb 3.5" intellipower 32mb wd5000aads
1 x cooler master elite 360 black
2 x fan mm. 80x80x25 12 volts 2 wires
1 x lcd monitor 21.5" aoc f22+ 16:9 fullhd 60000:1 300cd/m 5m dvi black
1 x ssd intel x-25m 80gb 2.5" reading 250mb/s writing 70mb/s sata2 ssdsa2mh080g2k5
1 x vga powercolor ax6850 1gbd5-dh radeon hd 6850 core 775mhz memory gddr5 4000mhz 1gb 2xdvi hdmi displayport
1 x power supply pc corsair builder series cx600 600w
1 x motherboard asus p8p67 evo socket 1155 intel p67 ddr3 sata3 usb3 atx
1 x cpu intel core i7-2600 3.40ghz socket 1155 95w with gpu sandy bridge boxed bx80623i72600
1 x .ram ddr3 g.skill ripjaws-x f3-10666cl9d-8gbxl 1333mhz 8gb (2x4gb) cl9 for sandy bridge 1.5v

 

[Md1b3]

always remember that the technical data of mac does not correspond to the actual performance that is found in use.

In fact it is not true, mac have a fantastic operating system, but they are still computers.. I mean, behind the screen hides the hardware that is the same as any other computer. that then work better in everything ok, but they work the same way.

ie, if for a pc it is essential to know ram, ghz and video card to have an idea of the performance, for the mac it is not as necessary.

What you say is true, but if we put it so then blessed ignorance. This is what the apple wants to make life easier for people, and I have to say that it succeeds us well. :smile:

Hi.