most popular software for carpentry

[>Iceman<]

hello iceman, gil, savior_ut
look at this link http://www.steeldetailingsoftware.co.uk/best-steel-detailing-software.html Sorry to intrude me but I am also looking around which software to buy for the design of metal carpentry and I think this link clarifies many doubts.

Hi.

Hello and welcome!
Yes, it definitely explains many things and I can assure you that you do not lie! I've been leaving for two weeks and it's really surprising. Who knows if, one day we will be able to see on the field a challenge between tekla and advance?!? Nice and beautiful!

 

[cris74]

looks good.
but does it turn with autocad?
Does anyone know the cost?

 

[>Iceman<]

looks good.
but does it turn with autocad?
Does anyone know the cost?

Trust me, it's really nice. This morning I happened to make a revision; Well...I have no words about the simplicity with which he made it (also keeping quotas inserted manually!!!), with a couple of clicks he revised any document was connected to the incriminated object (table, distinct, etc.), with the so-called clouds indicating the revision! ! ! !
I put it on autocad2011x64 for now, but with regard to the cost of carp something from who put hand in the wallet (my boss). I hope I can give you an answer as soon as possible.
Bye!

 

[>Iceman<]

looks good.
but does it turn with autocad?
Does anyone know the cost?

Hello, cris74!
I answered your question about the cost in the discussion I opened on graitec advance steel. !

 

[cris74]

just like tekla simple and fast

 

[Matteo]

solidworks!
but also proe and spaceclaim.
I agree with re_swx: a good mechanical cad often becomes great for the goat shop with a dedicated module. I do not like products too "vertical"

 

[maxopus]

solidworks!
but also proe and spaceclaim.
I agree with re_swx: a good mechanical cad often becomes great for the goat shop with a dedicated module. I do not like products too "vertical"

quoto, the efx module of pro/e (dedicated to carpenters and all construction systems based on advanced libraries) is really remarkable.
I hardly like the idea of having different applications depending on the project I have to develop.

 

[re_solidworks]

solidworks!
but also proe and spaceclaim.
I agree with re_swx: a good mechanical cad often becomes great for the goat shop with a dedicated module. I do not like products too "vertical"

quoto, the efx module of pro/e (dedicated to carpenters and all construction systems based on advanced libraries) is really remarkable.
I hardly like the idea of having different applications depending on the project I have to develop.

attention that then depends on what you want to do. for "standard" structures I think that the appropriate cads have no rivals, they are very fast, especially in laying knots.
If instead it is necessary to leave the "standardized" sown I would say that a mechanic is even better. I saw a case where with tekla they couldn't really give the necessary indications to the production. ...

then there is management. cad as tekla are born especially for this purpose and therefore they are born with all the measures to manage great assemblies. for example in the profiles does not show the fittings but considers them if you insert an unloaded rib and warns you.
I think no parametric does this, or the chord is or is not considered.
the same goes for the management of the bolt, and the joints, where with a few clicks you can enrich a single joint of the necessary details or (holes, screws, etc...) but even if the holes and screws are hidden/sustained, come out in the tables.

with the parametric one can approach you crazy of configurations, but tekla does it without doing anything special, simply because that is his way of doing... .

I mean, there are pros and cons.... .

 

[maxopus]

attention that then depends on what you want to do. for "standard" structures I think that the appropriate cads have no rivals, they are very fast, especially in laying knots.
If instead it is necessary to leave the "standardized" sown I would say that a mechanic is even better. I saw a case where with tekla they couldn't really give the necessary indications to the production. ...

to me this doesn't seem like a detail recently.
in your working life you will hardly always work with standard structures.

What is the cost of a tecla licence you have to add to another cad, since it is a specific solution for carpenters?

then there is management. cad as tekla are born especially for this purpose and therefore they are born with all the measures to manage great assemblies. for example in the profiles does not show the fittings but considers them if you insert an unloaded rib and warns you.
I think no parametric does this, or the chord is or is not considered.
the same goes for the management of the bolt, and the joints, where with a few clicks you can enrich a single joint of the necessary details or (holes, screws, etc...) but even if the holes and screws are hidden/sustained, come out in the tables.

with the parametric one can approach you crazy of configurations, but tekla does it without doing anything special, simply because that is his way of doing... .

I mean, there are pros and cons.... .

on this we could discuss, the power of pro/e in the management of great assemblies is proverbial.
You don't have to go crazy about configurations, if you want to manage axioms with simplified representations.
I designed a system with 70,000 seamless components, and I didn't use simplified representations.

 

[>Iceman<]

a simple question: Are you sure to talk about carpentry and not garden gazebos? What does mechanical software have to do with this discussion?
Have patience but I know applications for mechanical software, that they spread them for carpentry but I wouldn't even compare them!
which then, 70,000 components, but what kind? pipes, fittings, etc.? It's not carpentry, it's mechanical.
look at the sw mentioned in the survey; How many do you find "mechanical"? There will be a reason.
read the whole discusion and you will understand that, not to diminish anyone, but each sw has been thought for certain functions and do not really carpentry.. They were not aimed at this.
Hello everyone

 

[Rudy65]

a simple question: Are you sure to talk about carpentry and not garden gazebos? What does mechanical software have to do with this discussion?
Have patience but I know applications for mechanical software, that they spread them for carpentry but I wouldn't even compare them!
which then, 70,000 components, but what kind? pipes, fittings, etc.? It's not carpentry, it's mechanical.
look at the sw mentioned in the survey; How many do you find "mechanical"? There will be a reason.
read the whole discusion and you will understand that, not to diminish anyone, but each sw has been thought for certain functions and do not really carpentry.. They were not aimed at this.
Hello everyone

I fully agree with iceman......maybe this discussion is moving into arguments that do not center with carpentry! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

 

[re_solidworks]

Well, what to say, if stairs, walkways, facade frames and beam and tubular structures are not carpentry. . Tell me what I am. Let's talk about a whole plant in my case.
I can assure you that it is possible also with mechanical cad solidworks, but if I do not care to intervene in this section.
the big difference is that some falls mentioned in the survey are "apposed" and that is "already packaged for", the mechanics (other than the use of applications like steelworks) must be "interpreted" by the user.
then said among us autocad alone or autocad lt (present in the survey) are for carpentry? I'd say I'm just trying to pull lines. .

greetings

 

[maxopus]

a simple question: Are you sure to talk about carpentry and not garden gazebos? What does mechanical software have to do with this discussion?
Have patience but I know applications for mechanical software, that they spread them for carpentry but I wouldn't even compare them!
which then, 70,000 components, but what kind? pipes, fittings, etc.? It's not carpentry, it's mechanical.
look at the sw mentioned in the survey; How many do you find "mechanical"? There will be a reason.
read the whole discusion and you will understand that, not to diminish anyone, but each sw has been thought for certain functions and do not really carpentry.. They were not aimed at this.
Hello everyone

We are probably a little susceptible and I honestly don't care anymore, I was trying to bring some more news to the discussion.
For the record, I don't talk to you and you don't know what I've been dealing with in my life...
just for information and to provide you one, I was one of the executive project leaders for the structure of the plant fiat of stola do brasil and I was not the welder, I worked to the marchegaglia, a company that dealt with that contract.
so that, because you don't care about it, you stay well and keep your greedy convictions.

 

[flaviobrio88]

Wasn't that from the sat group?
I thought fiat was a customer of stole?

 

[incasinata]

Gentlemen, don't warm up.... otherwise there's only one solution:

...:36_6_10:

 

[gil]

solutions like prosteel are nothing but an autocad plugin that allows better carpentry management.

if there is another plugin that applies on a mechanical software to improve the design of the carpentry well come.

at the end are both additions that stick to non-specific software. eventually counts only if they work or not. The way they get us is more than programmers.

I went to the pro/e website http://www.ptc.comDid you know it's now called "cree"? I found nothing on the efx module. Could you take a look?

 

[re_solidworks]

solutions like prosteel are nothing but an autocad plugin that allows better carpentry management.

if there is another plugin that applies on a mechanical software to improve the design of the carpentry well come.

at the end are both additions that stick to non-specific software. eventually counts only if they work or not. The way they get us is more than programmers.

I went to the pro/e website http://www.ptc.comDid you know it's now called "cree"? I found nothing on the efx module. Could you take a look?

Actually it's called expert framework extension, look here:
http://www.ptc.com/products/creo-elements-pro/expert-framework-extensionis produced by b&w http://www.buw-soft.com/content/en/index.phpregarding the dedicated solidworks are steelworks:
http://www.amv.it/cms/data/pages/000026.aspx

e buildworks:
http://www.solidace.com/but as I said about solidworks there is already a very effective mechanism for carpentry, just use it.

If you are looking for these products on yuotube you will find demonstration videos.

Hi.

 

[>Iceman<]

We are probably a little susceptible and I honestly don't care anymore, I was trying to bring some more news to the discussion.
For the record, I don't talk to you and you don't know what I've been dealing with in my life...
just for information and to provide you one, I was one of the executive project leaders for the structure of the plant fiat of stola do brasil and I was not the welder, I worked to the marchegaglia, a company that dealt with that contract.
so that, because you don't care about it, you stay well and keep your greedy convictions.

Obviously there was a misunderstanding that led to you being offended and that was not my intention. I just wanted to point out that with all the software, even with the tecnigraph, you can make structures, of course! but if 95% of the designers/projectists, do not use programs like solidworks that reasons there might be? I don't want to be repetitive, but maybe we should read the whole forum.
solidworks is a super mechanical program but the topic is totally different. in mechanics (I have a long enough!!!!!!) you have totally different needs from those of carpentry.
Anyway, if you can use (and you're happy with that) just one sw to do everything, I can only compliment, even if I believe it little.
Say hi.

 

[maxopus]

Wasn't that from the sat group?
I thought fiat was a customer of stole?

the customer for us was fiat, I do not know then if there were transitions or transfers between fiat and sat.
it was fiat that paid us and we had every day fiat control in the factory (the men with the jackets gray mouse:biggrin.

 

[flaviobrio88]

the customer for us was fiat, I do not know then if there were transitions or transfers between fiat and sat.
it was fiat that paid us and we had every day fiat control in the factory (the men with the jackets gray mouse:biggrin.

it was that "fiat stola do brasil" that did not fit me