edge flange after converts to sheet metal

[reggio]

...I'm sure I've posted this question qlc now, but I don't find it so I repeat myself... hi, I made a log trapeze that I then converted into sheet metal,
Now I would like to add a flange of the edge to the base but swx does not allow me. . .

I also tried to cut to "pareggia" the sheet but it is not served:
do you use a make-up or how do you do it?

 

[sampom]

...I'm sure I've posted this question qlc now, but I don't find it so I repeat myself... hi, I made a log trapeze that I then converted into sheet metal,
Now I would like to add a flange of the edge to the base but swx does not allow me. . .

I also tried to cut to "pareggia" the sheet but it is not served:
do you use a make-up or how do you do it?

This is very nice. . .

... but sorry, you should know now; This kind of questions must be accompanied by the file indicted, otherwise we do not understand what kind of problem you encounter (or what kind of error you make :biggrin:. already those cuts you made me suspicious. and why does one have the question mark? What did you do? You should know that the plates are "delicate".

greetings
Mar

 

[xxfast]

Since I have some free time these days, I've solved it like this.
See if he can go. . .
View attachment 23942

 

[Mike1967]

... yes, maybe... but I understand your problem.. .
only he can enlighten us... :biggrin:

 

[reggio]

...what kind of mistake do you make:. already those cuts you made me suspicious. and why does one have the question mark? What did you do?

Ah! "What mistake do you make?" ? :
..yes of errors you see but they do not center anything, attached 2 tests...

See if he can go. . .

hello and thank you, yes your works, but at my sforma do not go well, I must use the loft...

...but I understand your problem.. .

... oppure il misterioso "piegatura con loft"?

... and the winner is: "piegatura con loft":4425:
ah, sorry, I forgot the controversy: Yes but possible that with a command that creates me the sheet, then I can not treat it from sheet metal?..not that "full with loft" mis tia antipatico, only the fact of having to do "open profiles without the net edges." which means reaching the edges without binding them to the tables or thicknesses is definitely a lack.. .

 

[xxfast]

... yes, maybe... but I understand your problem.. .
only he can enlighten us... :biggrin:

I agree, your solution is the best. :finger:
Could you explain to me how you got the fold drain?
I didn't understand how you got it, it looks like an extrusion?
You can help me. :bekle:

 

[Mike1967]

... oppure il misterioso "piegatura con loft"?

... and the winner is: "piegatura con loft":4425:
ah, sorry, I forgot the controversy: Yes but possible that with a command that creates me the sheet, then I can not treat it from sheet metal?..not that "full with loft" mis tia antipatico, only the fact of having to do "open profiles without the net edges." which means reaching the edges without binding them to the tables or thicknesses is definitely a lack.. .

.. welcome in the sheet metal environment... and remember that it is now simple molllttooo, I started with the first versions that did not even accept
2 normal bodies in the same part, given the sheets... with the latest versions
the plates are much simpler, I envy you because I have remained a little "legated" to the versions used previously that sometimes I do not lack new functions (the convert sheet for example is not very nice, especially if you have to make more pieces... If you use it, you're gonna fuck us and know what I'm talking about.
I always say that the plates live of their own life, they are not inanimate objects, they have their own character and they also have bad... But I like this field a lot.
your problem with the file is solved by making a "normal" cut of a few cents on all base you want to attack a edge.
Right now I have the pc that is smoothing the sp01ev and I can't even open 2011, if not I would post it modified.
night. :finger:

 

[Mike1967]

I agree, your solution is the best. :finger:
Could you explain to me how you got the fold drain?
I didn't understand how you got it, it looks like an extrusion?
You can help me. :bekle:

download the file, I attached it on purpose. :smile:

 

[PiegatoreSolidworks]

.. welcome in the sheet metal environment... and remember that it is now simple molllttooo, I started with the first versions that did not even accept
2 normal bodies in the same part, given the sheets... with the latest versions
the plates are much simpler, I envy you because I have remained a little "legated" to the versions used previously that sometimes I do not lack new functions (the convert sheet for example is not very nice, especially if you have to make more pieces... If you use it, you're gonna fuck us and know what I'm talking about.
I always say that the plates live of their own life, they are not inanimate objects, they have their own character and they also have bad... But I like this field a lot.
your problem with the file is solved by making a "normal" cut of a few cents on all base you want to attack a edge.
Right now I have the pc that is smoothing the sp01ev and I can't even open 2011, if not I would post it modified.
night. :finger:

I'm sorry, but so simple, isn't it?

 

[Mike1967]

I'm sorry, but so simple, isn't it?

normalmte yes, but tonight my poor pc did not shorten the folds and did not unload on its own, I am strusing with installation/disinstallation and something has expired, good reason for
format. . .
in fact after I tried on the pc in company (teamviewer) is there it works, as it is right.


try again: 2011 does not go, 2012 is ok... reinstall, will have ruined some dlls of 2011.

night.

 

[Mike1967]

That's what you meant by "simple simple"...
"simile" (very, almost equal:tongue to my part....:biggrin:

 

[re_solidworks]

I agree, your solution is the best. :finger:
Could you explain to me how you got the fold drain?
I didn't understand how you got it, it looks like an extrusion?
You can help me. :bekle:

He made an extruded cut. often happens to find problems because swx fails to download a edge, especially when inserting the folds in a solid part obtained by loft.
I usually, when it fails development, proceed in this way:

control1: I verify that all faces are actually flat (with solid lofts you have to be careful). to perform this check I click one face at a time and check that there is a chance to make us over a sketch

Control 2: I begin to perform macro cuts in edges at one by one until I find the problematic one. Once I find I delete all the other cuts and I go to shred as much as possible the cut remaining.

mike is right, the sheet is another way of conceiving the cad and also with much experience you often end up in a blind alley and you need to delete the features i restart with another method.

I use a little all the methods:

traditional sheet metal functions
solid functions with bending insert
conversion into solid body sheet
conversion into sheet metal
multibody sheeting

all seasoned by topdown modeling with skeletons.

However I attach another solution of the reggio sheet. I point out that in the loft plate solution it takes 1.73 seconds for reconstruction, with the solution I posted 0.50 seconds. my solution also gives the possibility to create a lightened configuration without the functions of sheet metal, in case the reconstruction goes to 0.03 seconds.

If you have to mount it in a complex set I would make a little thought.

good job!!!:finger:

 

[reggio]

I'm sorry, but so simple, isn't it?

Of course:

1) piano2 and plan (first or later these surfaces will have to study) are useless or what do they serve? I ask why suspending them does not change anything... On the contrary, it is only worth planing, piano2 you used it for the 2nd sketch of loft, right?
2) planar sketch10, do you need? What?
3) edge-flangia1 / angle: I see that the angle you put it to the eye to make it come, I try to draw parametric + possible to avoid future forgetfulness in case of variations of other measures connect, in this case How could I do for "select face" since I have no good at it? What makeup would you use?4) playing with the angle of edge-flangia1 are jumped out 2 tips (see attachment) that I do not explain.. As I did, the bending with loft would have had to stop at piano2... Why does it follow edge-flangia1?

 

[reggio]

your problem with the file is solved by making a "normal" cut of a few cents on all base you want to attack a edge.

Uh... I don't understand how, I'll attach you 3 pictures: the flange of the edge after cutting even the preview, the edges show me them but then does not perform them... .
Where am I wrong?
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I usually, when it fails development, proceed in this way:
...control1.. .
...control 2. . .

...methods:1)traditional sheet metal functions2)solid functions with bending insert3)conversion into solid body sheet4)conversion into sheet metal5)multi-body laminates5 e 1/2)all seasoned by topdown modeling with skeletons.

Wow. When you want and time, do you give us a little example for every guy?

...1.73 seconds ...0.50 seconds ...0.03 seconds.

... pure sembrar potrebbe philosophy, but just mount a set with more than 5 pieces to review your ideas... I'm getting more and more aware that I know nothing... :frown:

 

[Mike1967]

Of course:

1) piano2 and plan (first or later these surfaces will have to study) are useless or what do they serve? I ask why suspending them does not change anything... On the contrary, it is only worth planing, piano2 you used it for the 2nd sketch of loft, right?
2) planar sketch10, do you need? What?
3) edge-flangia1 / angle: I see that the angle you put it to the eye to make it come, I try to draw parametric + possible to avoid future forgetfulness in case of variations of other measures connect, in this case How could I do for "select face" since I have no good at it? What makeup would you use?4) playing with the angle of edge-flangia1 are jumped out 2 tips (see attachment) that I do not explain.. As I did, the bending with loft would have had to stop at piano2... Why does it follow edge-flangia1?

-1) -2): Reggio, you're making a mess of the Madonna!
the file placed by the bending machine, is nothing but mine to which it applied the automatic discharge that to me did not work.
the surface is indispensable, and if you had examined the file well you would have answered yourself.
- ...
strusando you altered the angle (which was bound to the surface... azzz I told you) and therefore the function "spigolo closed2" puts itself to do his job.
-3) at this point you should have understood that it is not random.

I also work as much as possible parametric... At least, I think.

 

[Mike1967]

Uh... I don't understand how, I'll attach you 3 pictures: the flange of the edge after cutting even the preview, the edges show me them but then does not perform them... .
Where am I wrong?

the images are commented on by themselves.

 

[reggio]

-1) -2): Reggio, you're making a mess of the Madonna!
the file placed by the bending machine, is nothing but mine to which it applied the automatic discharge that to me did not work.
the surface is indispensable, and if you had examined the file well you would have answered yourself.
-4) strusando you altered the angle (which was bound to the surface... azzz I told you) and therefore the function "spigolo closed2" puts itself to do his job.
-3) at this point you should have understood that it is not random.

Now maybe I understand, even if you didn't want to explain anything... :tongue:

Then I'll explain why I'll definitely do it again in 20 years and forget it.

then, the fold did not align because I was going to click on its name in the drawing tree, while you first have to view the surface (from hidden you do not select) then clicking it takes the right angle. . .

then I did not strusato (?) but I modified the hand corner to understand qlc and did not understand instead that the tips created them just "closed squirrel2" (uh... already as you said ...) that is paid to close the fesses. .

Um, well, it took me but eventually... :redface:

 

[reggio]

the images are commented on by themselves.

But here I'm not here yet...
Where's the trick? ? ?

... I attach my proof to which the bending does not add.. .

... in the other I also tried to cut off the slice but it does not work and in fact cutting as I show it should not work because it alters the thickness sheet ...


... explain to me ... with simple words and an example file if possible... :36_1_31:

 

[Mike1967]

But here I'm not here yet...
Where's the trick? ? ?

... I attach my proof to which the bending does not add.. .

... in the other I also tried to cut off the slice but it does not work and in fact cutting as I show it should not work because it alters the thickness sheet ...


... explain to me ... with simple words and an example file if possible... :36_1_31:

If you don't understand... I love you...

I can't send you the file, 2012.


Who knows what the "normal cut" is for?!?!?!?!? !

 

[PiegatoreSolidworks]

3) edge-flangia1 / angle: I see that the angle you put it to the eye to make it come, I try to draw parametric + possible

the corner comes out alone and is "perfect". . .

....the surface is indispensable. ...

just because you don't have any other edges on which to "lay" to get the corner, all there!