together with multiple frame generator frames

[Tarkus]

Hello to all:smile:
Domandina:
in a new set I create skeleton sketch (skeleton 1) and later frame (frame 1) with fg.
all this in normality.
in the same together I create another skeleton sketch (2) distinct from the first, that is with different name; this makes me do it without problems.
Now if I go insert the profiles on this new sketch, keep assembling them on frame 1.
Is there a possibility to create a frame 2 in the same set?
hi and good Sunday:biggrin:

 

[pompeo79]

Hello to all:smile:
Domandina:
in a new set I create skeleton sketch (skeleton 1) and later frame (frame 1) with fg.
all this in normality.
in the same together I create another skeleton sketch (2) distinct from the first, that is with different name; this makes me do it without problems.
Now if I go insert the profiles on this new sketch, keep assembling them on frame 1.
Is there a possibility to create a frame 2 in the same set?
hi and good Sunday:biggrin:

hi tarkus, you can't create subassiemi frames in the same together in number greater than 1.

 

[Tarkus]

hi tarkus, you can't create subassiemi frames in the same together in number greater than 1.

OK, thank you, I suspected it, less bad than you can create more skeletons; to make frames separated from the first, I will insert the later sketches in other assemblies..:finger:

 

[arzigogolo]

Hello to all:smile:
Domandina:
in a new set I create skeleton sketch (skeleton 1) and later frame (frame 1) with fg.
all this in normality.
in the same together I create another skeleton sketch (2) distinct from the first, that is with different name; this makes me do it without problems.
Now if I go insert the profiles on this new sketch, keep assembling them on frame 1.
Is there a possibility to create a frame 2 in the same set?
hi and good Sunday:biggrin:

Of course! there is the possibility to create all the frames you want, the only thing you have to do to ensure that he considers them separate frames, is to draw sketches or skeletons that will represent your frames, each within your own side file (attention: The sketches you have to create in the side files not together!).

then insert them all into your file together and the game is done.
In this way the program knows that they are distinct frames, always contained within the same set, and will have no problem considering them as such in management.
otherwise if you draw more sketches in the same together, he always considers them as part of the same frame and not as separate frames.


Hi.
Light

 

[Tarkus]

Of course! there is the possibility to create all the frames you want, the only thing you have to do to ensure that he considers them separate frames, is to draw sketches or skeletons that will represent your frames, each within your own side file (attention: The sketches you have to create in the side files not together!).

then insert them all into your file together and the game is done.
In this way the program knows that they are distinct frames, always contained within the same set, and will have no problem considering them as such in management.
otherwise if you draw more sketches in the same together, he always considers them as part of the same frame and not as separate frames.

Hi.
Light

Okay, to do the sketches I used (even for the second sketch), the "create skeleton" command, which in fact creates a separate part file, but it doesn't work as you say.
So, since I need to associate the sketch n°2 with the frame already built with the sketch n°1, should I use perhaps the command "create part", so that I have my associated geometry?

 

[Catafratto]

I tell you what I did in such a case:
created the aid to
created the subaxieme a.1 with the skeleton s of all the frame a (not only a.1). for the skeleton I create just one part and insert it.
created the frame a.1
created the subaxieme a.2 reusing the skeleton
created the frame a.2

so all the frame is driven by one side file. I don't know if it's the best procedure, but it's robust and it works.

Bye!

 

[pagnotz]

I tell you what I did in such a case:
created the aid to
created the subaxieme a.1 with the skeleton s of all the frame a (not only a.1). for the skeleton I create just one part and insert it.
created the frame a.1
created the subaxieme a.2 reusing the skeleton
created the frame a.2

so all the frame is driven by one side file. I don't know if it's the best procedure, but it's robust and it works.

Bye!

you according to me it is necessary always to create sub-axis for each frame and create them working within the corresponding sub-axieme. then the skeletons can be either one to which all frames refer or one for each frame, also created in the reference sub-axis.

 

[Tarkus]

I tell you what I did in such a case:
created the aid to
created the subaxieme a.1 with the skeleton s of all the frame a (not only a.1). for the skeleton I create just one part and insert it.
created the frame a.1
created the subaxieme a.2 reusing the skeleton
created the frame a.2

so all the frame is driven by one side file. I don't know if it's the best procedure, but it's robust and it works.

Bye!

the file starts with more overall sketches,it is my usual system to work.
at this turn, I had to make a frame only, then I preferred to make a subaxieme with the frame n°2 , but I didn't want to start over; from here it needs to make separate frames.
However, the result is the same: the sketch n° 2 is always a file part that I put in another together and here I used the fg...

 

[arzigogolo]

the file starts with more overall sketches,it is my usual system to work.
at this turn, I had to make a frame only, then I preferred to make a subaxieme with the frame n°2 , but I didn't want to start over; from here it needs to make separate frames.
However, the result is the same: the sketch n° 2 is always a file part that I put in another together and here I used the fg...

Hello tarkus.

So, I went over the procedure for creating a frame a little bit 'cause it was a little time I didn't use it and these are my conclusions (also reading the online guide):

place that your method of work, it seems correct (i.e. create more sketches within the same file of part), you must keep in mind these two general rules:

1 - parts must always be inserted in the work aid with inside a more sketches or skeletons, otherwise if you try to draw a sketch directly into your set and try to select it, he does not allow you to do so.

I did the test: I tried to create a sketch formed by multiple lines and then I started the fg. then I set the various parameters (norms, family, size, etc.) and when I tried to select the line or a point on my sketch to insert the member of the frame, simply did not allow me to select anything. Therefore, you can insert the members of a frame only if the skeleton sketches are located in a side file.

then that you in your side file draw one or more sketches depending on how you find yourself more comfortable, it doesn't make any difference.

2 - the doubt that you had is to use the "create part" command and select the entities of the sketch (this time done in the axieme) to derive them in a side file, is correct: once this is done, the fg will consider it a valid part file and will allow you to use it to place the members of the frame (when inserted in the axieme).
Alternatively, you can create a file of ex novo parts, draw your sketch inside and then insert it into the axieme. both methods are valid, then you have to decide which one suits more to your needs.

the "create skeleton" command is basically the same as creating a new part using the "new" command, with the difference that allows you to create the new part directly within your set.

3 - in your main set you can create all the subaximes you want, as long as inside them are contained "the" or "the" file of parts with their good sketches inserted inside.

If you want or time, try to look at what it says here in the guide about the workflow to create frames with the frame generator.http://wikihelp.autodesk.com/invent...-assiemi460/0597-creazion597/0598-generato598here instead there is an exercise that I did too and that I must say I was very useful to understand so many functions of the fg.http://wikihelp.autodesk.com/invent...732#guid-d318c64f-776f-463c-bf6e-6313baf8dd7cIf you have doubts ask, and within the limits of my knowledge I see if I can help you.:smile:

Bye.
Light.

 

[Tarkus]

Goddamn arzigolo,:biggrin: you wrote a poem :finger:.
a thank you and advice: put it also in the section inventor tips...:smile:

 

[arzigogolo]

Goddamn arzigolo,:biggrin: you wrote a poem :finger:.
a thank you and advice: put it also in the section inventor tips...:smile:

Done!

thanks to you!:finger:

Bye.
Light.

 

[fiorot.daniele]

Good morning to all I am reconnecting to the discussion as I would need to realize more than one frame as from title.
I followed and tried the procedure but maybe I mistake something.... .
if I have understood well for every part that I genero (external file) and insert inside the inventor axieme should realize a frame for each skeleton in reference.
if this is the procedure to me it does not work.
I hope someone can give me some extra info
thanks in advance