that 3d choose?

[Parametric_Ozzy]

The boards yes, the dxf no!
Here, but is this the passage that I do not understand; why go compulsory to the dxf?? What do you need? I (but I think a little everyone) converts to vector 2d only to send the "sagomes" to laser cutting.
2d constructive tables quoted and "finished to perfection" you do them directly from cad 3d in a absolutely parametric way.
the beauty of these programs is that the 2d "classic" you forget it.. if I have to remake it all is time and money lost unnecessarily, not to count the cerebral agrovigliamento that pursues it.

greetings
Mar

because maybe those who build the pieces are outside and then they need the dxf or dwg rather than the pdf.
in any case the symphony does not change. .
is always an export that does from table 2d membership to 3d no?:biggrin:
manual,semiautomatic or automatic is stess!

 

[Enzolog]

The boards yes, the dxf no!
Here, but is this the passage that I do not understand; why go compulsory to the dxf?? What do you need? I (but I think a little everyone) converts to vector 2d only to send the "sagomes" to laser cutting.
2d constructive tables quoted and "finished to perfection" you do them directly from cad 3d in a absolutely parametric way.
the beauty of these programs is that the 2d "classic" you forget it.. if I have to remake it all is time and money lost unnecessarily, not to count the cerebral agrovigliamento that pursues it.

greetings
Mar

In fact, I can't go on like this after so many years, the brain laughs:
the dxf I need for cutting the sheets, which consequently will be folded.
already the fact of the tables that are updated is a good, then the dxf I re-extrude it.

 

[sampom]

because maybe those who build the pieces are outside and then they need the dxf or dwg rather than the pdf.
in any case the symphony does not change. .
is always an export that does from table 2d membership to 3d no?:biggrin:
manual,semiautomatic or automatic is stess!

Sure, I understand.
but anyway I do everything from cad 3d, then eventually except in the format that I need (dxf/dwg/pdf or the old printed print), but it ended there; I certainly do not put myself to "pasticcia" with autocad, that I would not want to see:biggrin:... Although for something I am still obliged to open it.

:smile:

 

[maxopus]

I don't know if it's right, but I'm just the user.
- three-dimensional demonstration of all parts, in order to have a direct control over interference (the opposite of what I do now that the 3d I do after the 2d);
-take the single part in 3d and develop the table setting by assigning it the coding and quating;
-take the single part in 3d and extract the dxf automatically without having to redesign in 2d through measurements avoiding errors;
-take the dxf and develop the table of the same;
-create assembly of the individual machines and develop me at the table;
-create assembly of more machines to develop pipe fittings and hoppers.
-explore me so the various fittings and create the relative parts with table setting.

if I change a part I can automatically update the boards and dxfs?
big way and in crude words this

the process is slightly different.
you put it in the program (swx, I create, if or whatever you prefer).
dxf is just an export that you need or to give the design to those who do not have the program like your (but it would be enough a pdf print) or to feed the cam cutting sheet from laser/plasm/punzonatrice (the dxf in scale 1:1 without quotas, symbols, cartiglio and tangenza lines).
all this can be done completely automatically.
once you have made your tables, with only one command launch the export and printing of all the files contained in one or more folders.

 

[Enzolog]

the process is slightly different.
you put it in the program (swx, I create, if or whatever you prefer).
dxf is just an export that you need or to give the design to those who do not have the program like your (but it would be enough a pdf print) or to feed the cam cutting sheet from laser/plasm/punzonatrice (the dxf in scale 1:1 without quotas, symbols, cartiglio and tangenza lines).
all this can be done completely automatically.
once you have made your tables, with only one command launch the export and printing of all the files contained in one or more folders.

I'm starting to get an idea and I think I'm eye-and-crossing things I do in 8 hours so I could do it in 2 max

 

[maxopus]

I'm starting to get an idea and I think I'm eye-and-crossing things I do in 8 hours so I could do it in 2 max

I don't know if the difference is so marked, surely you save a lot of time and mortal boredoms.

 

[Enzolog]

I don't know if the difference is so marked, surely you save a lot of time and mortal boredoms.

Unfortunately, I must say yes:redface:
draw 6 views of each single piece + the dxf for cutting the more 'untiling is hard.
we put the most common case of planting:
5000-6000 pieces multiplied by 8 are many 2d drawings without counting the mounting drawings and layout:frown:
not bearing in mind all the drawings for the design of maximum that obviously are carried out before the above.

 

[cacciatorino]

Unfortunately, I must say yes:redface:

another advantage of the 3d is that it drastically reduces design errors, at least until you take so much confidence with the prorpio cad that you stop checking the design before the release to manufacturing! :biggrin:

 

[Enzolog]

another advantage of the 3d is that it drastically reduces design errors, at least until you take so much confidence with the prorpio cad that you stop checking the design before the release to manufacturing! :biggrin:

I had no doubt about both statements :biggrin:
In fact, for the complexity of the sets I find myself having to redesign the whole in 3d just to check if there are any visuals (it's easier because I'm faster with 3d), despite it really seems an obsolete method but it's the only choice I currently have.

 

[Enzolog]

I have a design of a single machine to show you as an example but it is 6mb does not make me insert it;

 

[maxopus]

strange, in zip format (because you have to zip it) you can load over 7 mega.
in 7z format you can load over 9 megabytes.

 

[sampom]

In fact, for the complexity of the sets I find myself having to redesign the whole in 3d just to check if there are any misfortunes.

but currently with what (re)draws in 3d?
do not answer me autocad because I send you neuro:biggrin:.
I don't understand this. do all that work in 2d vectors and then "arrifai" all in 3d?. is crazy

I see from your profile that you have inventor; but have you not tried to do all the work with that?

 

[Enzolog]

but currently with what (re)draws in 3d?
do not answer me autocad because I send you neuro:biggrin:.

I see from your profile that you have inventor; but have you not tried to do all the work with that?

send me the red cross then:biggrin:
inventor I use it in a studio that is not my official work station
(I give a hand in short)
ooops had not seen the .rar excuse

 

[Enzolog]

This is the typical example of a machine belonging to a cocoa beans cleaning plant.
In this case fortunately the 3d served me for the composition of the manual and for the explosions.
the fact of starting from the 2d comes from the need to produce cutting files for the plasma machine and with autocad I could not do otherwise, the 3d is just a verification (also a satisfaction after the 2d little exciting if you want).
imagine on a whole plant with thirty machines, support structures, valves and pipes ;

 

[maxopus]

This is the typical example of a machine belonging to a cocoa beans cleaning plant.
In this case fortunately the 3d served me for the composition of the manual and for the explosions.
the fact of starting from the 2d comes from the need to produce cutting files for the plasma machine and with autocad I could not do otherwise, the 3d is just a verification (also a satisfaction after the 2d little exciting if you want).
imagine on a whole plant with thirty machines, support structures, valves and pipes ;

burnt youth, think about how it could be more productive, interesting and relaxing your work.:smile:

 

[Enzolog]

burnt youth, think about how it could be more productive, interesting and relaxing your work.:smile:

In fact it is precisely because of this reason that my work has always liked me less since the last 5 years, resulting in disinterest towards the same.
Really sad, don't you think?
Fortunately work (work) also in the field of interior design and structural, less bad than at least design meets me.

 

[sampom]

burnt youth, think about how it could be more productive, interesting and relaxing your work.:smile:

beyond that of unequally immediate and better understanding. . Wow, that "species of 3d" is a ruin for the eyes. .

@ Home, we're practically in the same industry. only that I take care of the steps immediately after, from preparation to packaging (excluding). but some plant like that, then roasting, pressing etc. I treated them and mounted around the world:biggrin:

 

[maxopus]

In fact it is precisely because of this reason that my work has always liked me less since the last 5 years, resulting in disinterest towards the same.
Really sad, don't you think?
Fortunately work (work) also in the field of interior design and structural, less bad than at least design meets me.

and then your choice is practically obliged.
if you like the design look at this site:
http://www.v12design.com/guess what program they use

 

[Enzolog]

beyond that of unequally immediate and better understanding. . Wow, that "species of 3d" is a ruin for the eyes. .

@ Home, we're practically in the same industry. only that I take care of the steps immediately after, from preparation to packaging (excluding). but some plant like that, then roasting, pressing etc. I treated them and mounted around the world:biggrin:

a job, huh?
we do all the plant until the packaging, where obviously companies specialized on automation come into play.
I imagined that from your origin (cn), you would have known the sector a bit, you are a stone's throw from dawn :tongue:
If you go to the site that I have in my signature, you will find the same machine (as well as my works), but only with the outer armour that served as a cover for the manual.

@max really well done that site you see that the owner is an esteta like me.

 

[sampom]

...you're a stone's throw from dawn.. .

My boss has been for 20 years chief uff. technical, at the beginning of "that company":biggrin:

If you go to the site that I have in my signature you will find the same machine but only with the outer armour that served as a cover for the manual.

a filter similar to that, for a sugar mill, we removed it disassembled and completely revised. another is still in stock. . .