critical judgment on rel. 2011

[stefanobruno]

As I feared, passing on seven64bit, I had to abandon rel. 2007 of autocad, which I used little but was now customized to the best.
in the passage, apart from the setting of the commands that I will ask when,
I bumped into a myriad of small problems that make me waste a lot of time.
Today you no longer select anything, quotas or lines that are you no longer touch anything.
I'm not really a beginner on autocad, but something like that is getting me out of gangheri.
I ask you, do you happen, or am I the only one in this situation?
I gladly pay the subscription to be always updated, especially for inventor, but all the times you change rel. anxiety and turn grows instead of decreasing.

 

[re_solidworks]

As I feared, passing on seven64bit, I had to abandon rel. 2007 of autocad, which I used little but was now customized to the best.
in the passage, apart from the setting of the commands that I will ask when,
I bumped into a myriad of small problems that make me waste a lot of time.
Today you no longer select anything, quotas or lines that are you no longer touch anything.
I'm not really a beginner on autocad, but something like that is getting me out of gangheri.
I ask you, do you happen, or am I the only one in this situation?
I gladly pay the subscription to be always updated, especially for inventor, but all the times you change rel. anxiety and turn grows instead of decreasing.

I am experiencing your own situation, but in my case it is more "passable" because the latest release with which I was productive was mechanical desktop 4, used until 2006.
to today I have autocad mechanical 2012 and with my old habits I am not there. The problem, in my case, is due to the lack of time, I cannot apply myself a few days to customize the environment in a productive way.
for not having "bad invested" I thought of doing a / two-day course aimed at optimizing the working environment and a little recovery on how to use in productive way, with the version of today, the tool.
I think it's the best solution.

 

[arzigogolo]

Today you no longer select anything, quotas or lines that are you no longer touch anything.

Hello stefanobruno.

What do you mean when you say you don't select anything today? Are you referring perhaps to the fact that at the mouse passage on any entity (quotes, lines, etc.) objects are evident becoming seemingly dotted? because if it is this it bothers me too.

In fact, if you have a very complex axieme with myriads of lines, circles, odds and anything else, passing over with the mouse practically you highlight everything, select only what you care about becomes practically an enterprise!:

I don't work with autocad if I don't know how I'd be.

However, if the problem is this, I think you should be able to disable this annoyance with a preference found in the "options" dialog box, but I no longer remember which "language" of the above window is found.

 

[GiGa]

Today you no longer select anything, quotas or lines that are you no longer touch anything.

I don't know what you mean.

What do you mean when you say you don't select anything today? Are you referring perhaps to the fact that at the mouse passage on any entity (quotes, lines, etc.) objects are evident becoming seemingly dotted?
...
However, if the problem is this, I think you should be able to disable this annoyance with a preference found in the "options" dialog box, but I no longer remember which "language" of the above window is found.

options - selection - preview selection (two options) - visual effect setting.. .

Anyway, the transition from 2008 to current releases is a nice leap, especially for the interface. I frankly like the ribbon (especially in inventor), but I admit that the very first time was complicated to find the commands.
Moreover, it seems to me that some default values of certain variables (sometimes because they have been added different states) have been modified and so, certain consolidated behaviors are no longer as one waiting for them.... at that point however it is sufficient to find the correct variable and change its value. .
the most "strong" example that comes to mind, is the modification of the mechanical quotas... I was so comfortable the dialog box that only edit them via ribbon just didn't like... in the end it was enough to change a variable to restore it (and already I do not remember that variable is). .

 

[stefanobruno]

in the end it was enough to change a variable to restore it (and already I do not remember that variable is). .

That's exactly what I don't understand.
If it is believed that with the new setting you work better, then I adapt, but at least we document very well the function of variables.
As for the evidence quoted by arzigogolo, it is one of the first things that all those I know, no one excluded, disables or would like to disable, so I would like to understand why at some point this characteristic has been introduced.
Another thing that drives me crazy is the logic introduced by some rel. to edit the blocks.
because, during the edit phase, the block is displayed alone, without the useful contiguous part as reference, I can not understand it.
Is there someone who appreciates this choice, tell me why it is better than the previous system?
this morning the lines and quotas can be selected, do not ask me why, I would respond with uncivilized words.

Have a good day.

 

[PierArg]

As I feared, passing on seven64bit, I had to abandon rel. 2007 of autocad, which I used little but was now customized to the best.
in the passage, apart from the setting of the commands that I will ask when,
I bumped into a myriad of small problems that make me waste a lot of time.
Today you no longer select anything, quotas or lines that are you no longer touch anything.
I'm not really a beginner on autocad, but something like that is getting me out of gangheri.
I ask you, do you happen, or am I the only one in this situation?
I gladly pay the subscription to be always updated, especially for inventor, but all the times you change rel. anxiety and turn grows instead of decreasing.

Hey, I'm confirming the "blood bag" too!

in my case we changed the workstations and put the new ones with win 7. we had so many of those problems that for a time in the office we worked all with 2 pcs per head...after the "switch off" (after about 2 months) the problems were not entirely resolved.
thinks that on average in one day I restarted autocad 4/5 times because I also had problems selecting quotas. I noticed that after reboot they were selecting.
All in all, in a working day, 40% of the time I lost him to fix the "inghippi".
even sometimes I was so much "scogl...ato" that I used the inventor drafting (when there was to make simple pieces I did before in 3d even if it was not required so I could do the 2d in a dignified way)

If I had to give a judgment I would say that my experience with autocad mechanical 2011 was very disappointing. I expected more.

Now I work with me10 and I look great. . .. according to me (absolutely personal opinionI don't know.

 

[PlannerRoad]

... another thing that drives me crazy is the logic introduced by some rel. to edit the blocks.
because, during the edit phase, the block is displayed alone, without the useful contiguous part as reference, I can not understand it.
is there someone who appreciates this choice, tell me why it is better than the previous system?...

Yes, but the possibility of publishing them as in previous versions remained.
when you go to the block, if you select it, in the right-click options you find, along with "block editors", also "change block in local".
same thing happens with the command modrif.
this in pure autocad, I do not know if then mechanical has these characteristics.

 

[GiGa]

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thinks that on average in one day I restarted autocad 4/5 times because I also had problems selecting quotas. I noticed that after reboot they were selecting.

And yet I can't understand what you're talking about... use/I used 2012 (like 2011) on a malanded xp32 (it would need a nice formatted), on view64 and on seven64, yet I do not remember having ever had similar problem. . .
At most, I had the trouble of filters in the osnap, but once set up no problem.. .
when can't you select rows or odds? Doing what?

Yes, but the possibility of publishing them as in previous versions remained.
when you go to the block, if you select it, in the right-click options you find, along with "block editors", also "change block in local".
same thing happens with the command modrif.
this in pure autocad, I do not know if then mechanical has these characteristics.

mechanical has it... and the modrif is restored with double click... but I don't remember if by editing a leash or by variable or even is by default with 2012.. .

 

[PlannerRoad]

...mechanical has it... and the modrif is restored with double click... but I don't remember if by editing a leash or by variable or even is by default with 2012.. .

There is a difference between typing the modrif command and double-clicking on a block as you say.
the "change block definition" window that opens you is of course the same, but with the command type, instead of the double click, the above window will make you change the block local instead of the editor.

 

[GiGa]

I never use the block editor ( _bedit, to understand us, that for the definition of dynamic blocks where the block is opened in a "separate environment")... if I double-click on a block, start the local change of the block (modrif, in fact) where obviously there are objects around the block itself. . .