possibility to replace components creating different versions in the same together

[arzigogolo]

Hello, everyone!

I have always wondered whether there is the possibility in inventor (alike that offered by solidworks called "axiemi configuration") to be able to replace components in the same together, but keeping the originals in their configuration.

I mean, in my group I want to replace one component with another but keeping the original component in a stand-alone configuration, so that I can then examine the different variants without having to create a new set each time with the replaced components.

Maybe you can do it with "iassembly"?

But I'm not sure.

thank you all!:smile:

 

[Catafratto]

I don't know the iassemblys, I've tried a little bit, disastered and removed from my mind... to do what you say you usually use the levels of detail, although I suppose it is less elegant than it proposes solidworks; Anyway to see how it works.

 

[pompeo79]

you can use visual representations, you can set every view by turning off the desired visibility, in a short time you can switch between a configuration and another

with iassembly also, from excellent results, but it is a little 'woody' and produces often errors (coinvolge many variables and if you can combine inventor you arrabias. . )

 

[arzigogolo]

hello to both and thanks for the answers!:smile:

excuse me, but maybe I didn't understand, that is: I would like to keep the old together with the old component and then be able to work on a new configuration "contained" in the same together where I will have the original components in a configuration, we put that "principal" and many variations of the main configuration for those modified components (and obviously replaced).

with the "representations" of inventor, I think you can only hide or display the components, but do not replace them so that they appear in the distinct base correctly.

and same speech with the "retail levels" because, if I'm not mistaken, the function suppresses the components, but it does not replace them with others as I would like to do. At least, if I didn't get it wrong.

or is it just with the level of detail that you can do this?

because I have read the online guide of inventor regarding the levels of detail and I seem to have understood that one can do such a thing, but replacing "all" the assieme with another component which, in turn, (the component) will have inside the "replaced" icon in the node "part".

If I misunderstood I apologize, but if so, it does not do the same thing that makes solidworks with "axiemi configuration".

In fact, to explain how solidworks does, I open the component that interests me to change, then I create a configuration within it, I make my changes in the newly created configuration (which I know, maybe I shorten the length) and then save the part. in the browser of the component will appear the name of the new configuration created and clicking above the part will update with the modification made (in my example with the shortened length).

if I click on the name of the original configuration, the part will reappear with its original length. so I can make all the changes I always want in the same side file.

Then, lastly, I open my set and in the browser select the part containing the different configurations and choose the most appropriate. In doing so, I always have a set on which to work with the different variants of each component.

then in the properties of each component configuration, I will write a different code in order to find the correct name in the separate components.

I'm sorry if I'm too long, but I'm always afraid I'm not clear!:biggrin:

Thanks again!:smile:

 

[pompeo79]

an ipart with significant variations. . . ?

 

[arzigogolo]

an ipart with significant variations. . . ?

Yes, I think the ipart is the right way, but after I created my ipart with all the variants of the case, how do I insert each ipart variant into its corresponding variant in the axieme?

That is, in the axieme, similar to the part containing its ipart variants, should there be the possibility to create a variant in which to accommodate the ipart variant, otherwise where I put the individual ipart variants if I do not have the possibility to create a configuration for each of them?

in solidworks I can do it because I can create many configurations in the axieme, how many variations in a certain component, so I can have different combinations within the same set.

but in inventor how do I create different configurations in the axieme to accommodate the different ipart variants?

because the "representations" do not serve for this purpose, neither the "representations of position", nor the "levels of detail", so how to do?

we're always there, I don't see a way out if I don't use the iassembly, although it seems strange that inventor doesn't have this possibility, because both solidworks and solidwdge that pro/e have it, so there should be it too inventor.: eek:

What do you think?

 

[pompeo79]

at this point if the coupled parts of your set change the iassembly is the only way to go.

 

[arzigogolo]

at this point if the coupled parts of your set change the iassembly is the only way to go.

Yes, it seems to me that it is the only road that can be the one of the partner united to the iassembly. I think that the procedure to create different configurations of parts replaced in the same set, is realized by creating different lines in the "iassembly" dialog box, each of which will correspond to a certain "ipart" configuration present in the component concerned.

so doing, you should get the same result that you get using the "configurations together" in solidworks. of course the procedure is different, but you should get the same result.

I must say that, personally, even if inventor I know how to use it better because I use it for more time, in this case I prefer the approach of solidworks because it is more linear and less complicated. I would say less "arzigogular" than that of inventor!:biggrin:

anyway thanks Pompeo, at least you have given me confirmation of the method you have to use.:finger:

The only thing I ask myself again is whether there is only this method or there is a less complicated one, because it manages everything in the "iassembly" dialog box, it seems to me quite farraginous.:

 

[pompeo79]

Yes, it seems to me that it is the only road that can be the one of the partner united to the iassembly. I think that the procedure to create different configurations of parts replaced in the same set, is realized by creating different lines in the "iassembly" dialog box, each of which will correspond to a certain "ipart" configuration present in the component concerned.

so doing, you should get the same result that you get using the "configurations together" in solidworks. of course the procedure is different, but you should get the same result.

I must say that, personally, even if inventor I know how to use it better because I use it for more time, in this case I prefer the approach of solidworks because it is more linear and less complicated. I would say less "arzigogular" than that of inventor!:biggrin:

anyway thanks Pompeo, at least you have given me confirmation of the method you have to use.:finger:

The only thing I ask myself again is whether there is only this method or there is a less complicated one, because it manages everything in the "iassembly" dialog box, it seems to me quite farraginous.:

If you want next week I provide you with pdf material (English) where you light up on iparts and iassembly.

 

[arzigogolo]

If you want next week I provide you with pdf material (English) where you light up on iparts and iassembly.

Wow! Thank you.

Maybe it's the time of a good guide on iassembly!

 

[diegus]

I agree that the levels of detail are the way to go, but I am faced with a problem:
if I make different levels of detail with the various configurations the separate components list me anyway all the parts inserted in the axieme (soppressed or not). is it possible to have a distinct that reflects the active detail level?

 

[Peppe]

I agree that the levels of detail are the way to go, but I am faced with a problem:
if I make different levels of detail with the various configurations the separate components list me anyway all the parts inserted in the axieme (soppressed or not). is it possible to have a distinct that reflects the active detail level?

In this case you need i-assembly