autofall multilicensing

[Roberto Michelizza]

Hello, everyone.
I haven't been through this.
excuse ignorance, but if I buy my beautiful autocad I get the box with cd, manual etc, and support there more than 5.000 €! If one tomorrow I hire a person in my studio I have to buy a new ac package and then spend another 5,000 cubes or there is another cheaper solution? (type an additional license for the employee).

Sorry if this topic already exists, but I couldn't find it. . .

thanks to all
r.

 

[Shape]

Hello, everyone.
I haven't been through this.
excuse ignorance, but if I buy my beautiful autocad I get the box with cd, manual etc, and support there more than 5.000 €! If one tomorrow I hire a person in my studio I have to buy a new ac package and then spend another 5,000 cubes or there is another cheaper solution? (type an additional license for the employee).

Sorry if this topic already exists, but I couldn't find it. . .

thanks to all
r.

License for employee no, you take a normal license.

There are network licenses, but I don't think they handle two licenses.

But I don't understand where the anomaly is... with office example how do you do?
the license by its nature is for a post, then there are multiple licenses but the cost is however that of the 2-3-4 licenses that include.

in any case there are retailers that make good discounts, getting a quote is the first step to understand where you go to finish.

 

[Roberto Michelizza]

then 2 autocad stations working simultaneously = 5,000 € x 2!

That's weird, boh!

thank you 1000 for the answer
r.

 

[liber]

then 2 autocad stations working simultaneously = 5,000 € x 2!
That's weird, boh!
thank you 1000 for the answer
r.

It's not weird stuff, but it's autodesk policy.
you could fold for the autocadlt version, or in one of the clones intellicad style, progecad, zwcad etc etc.
p.s. please 10,000 for the answer

 

[Tristan]

then 2 autocad stations working simultaneously = 5,000 € x 2!

That's weird, boh!

Where's the weirdness? but sorry, if you need a corporate car and hire an employee who in turn needs another car what do you think you're doing?? two cars that turn on the street at the same time = 10,000 € x 2. do you find it bizarre?

 

[roberto 2011]

We have to thank all those softwarehouses that try to scalfire the monopoly autocad and then to hold a little self-desk, otherwise they would have made us cuxxo stripes... .

now they have increased the autocad sub from 550 to 605 euros + VAT. other than economic crisis and other caxxates, these go on their way as tanks, because they know that customers will follow them to 99%.

Tristan was an example of office. tristan excuse, but you touched a really painful key. I with the expense of 85 euros included I bought online from any retailer, therefore not linked to microsoft contrary to autocad dealers with autodesk, well 3 office licenses 2010.

We're not kidding. autocad has always cost expensive, but now even with the simple subscription you could buy 26 office licenses with only one year. then while office lasts several years with autocad the following year you have to repay another 732,05 euros.

certain programs are not equal, but a great exaggeration is perceived by those who sell autocad...... :redface: :redface:

 

[Preparation-H]

Where's the weirdness? but sorry, if you need a corporate car and hire an employee who in turn needs another car what do you think you're doing?? two cars that turn on the street at the same time = 10,000 € x 2. do you find it bizarre?

Right, maybe you can get some more discount on the second license...

Hi.
p-h

 

[Roberto Michelizza]

It's not weird stuff, but it's autodesk policy.
you could fold for the autocadlt version, or in one of the clones intellicad style, progecad, zwcad etc etc.
p.s. please 10,000 for the answer

Of course, it would be the easiest, short and economic road, but then if I say particular I cannot even put the tolerances (mechanical sector).
I realized it's not weird, but since you need more licenses, I thought the next ones were lower-cost offers... all of this!
Greetings to everyone!

 

[Tristan]

We have to thank all those softwarehouses that try to scalfire the monopoly autocad and then to hold a little self-desk, otherwise they would have made us cuxxo stripes... .

You don't care about autodesk. if someone breaks them in the autodesk basket if he buys it and makes small pieces:wink:

now they have increased the autocad sub from 550 to 605 euros + VAT. other than economic crisis and other caxxates, these go on their way as tanks, because they know that customers will follow them to 99%.

strategy...the sub of the suites instead fall:biggrin:

We're not kidding. autocad has always cost expensive, but now even with the simple subscription you could buy 26 office licenses with only one year. then while office lasts several years with autocad the following year you have to repay another 732,05 euros.

I agree with roberto, autocad is expensive but imo no longer makes sense to buy it. What is autocad? a very generic cad, a tool for chains. What do I do? roads? Building? mechanical? environment? Have you ever tried to design a road with autocad? and a four-time engine? for God's sake!! why should I spend 5000 euros for a product that doesn't do what I need? is it not better to spend € 6000 and to have both autocad and the tools in it integrated for what I do daily? then bye bye autocad and forward with architecture (better revit :biggrin, map 3d, civil 3d, mechanical (or better inventor), mep, plant 3d and who has more put it! !
if however the price is always too high (even for lt) and my work at the cad is limited to pull 4 lines a year, there are always various clones.

of course the programs are not equal, but it is perceived a great exaggeration from those who sell autocad

It's not our dealers' fault! the price imposes it adsk...in fact, we often do even hundreds of discount eurries by reshaping our margin to come meet the customer! :finger:

 

[GP.]

...now they have increased the autocad sub from 550 to 605 euros + VAT...

I paid her 550 again.

 

[roberto 2011]

...I agree roberto, autocad is expensive but imo no longer makes sense to buy it. What is autocad? a very generic cad, a tool for chains. What do I do? roads? Building? mechanical? environment? Have you ever tried to design a road with autocad? and a four-time engine? for God's sake!! why should I spend 5000 euros for a product that doesn't do what I need? is it not better to spend € 6000 and to have both autocad and the tools in it integrated for what I do daily? then bye bye autocad and forward with architecture (better revit), map 3d, civil 3d, mechanical (or better inventor), mep, plant 3d and who more has it! !
if however the price is always too high (even for lt) and my work at the cad is limited to pull 4 lines a year, there are always various clones.

I know very well that the fault is not of the final retailers:wink: I would just like to point out that I don't like all this devaluation of autocad, seen only as a program of chains.

depends on how you use it and precisely because it is generic, but with so many possibilities - lisp in primis but also the true customization of menus and commands through macro - is a program that allows you to do everything then to really work on it and move on.

I'm sorry, but I have to say that revit and the like are not like that. They make you waste more time than they let you flood and they condition you a lot on what you have to do. I don't want to reopen this speech. but do not touch me autocad.... :

@gp you were lucky. . better for you!

 

[Tristan]

I didn't say that autocad is a bowl. I said I'd rather spend a little more and have an autocad-based solution. I am, among other things, an enthusiastic user of autocad civil 3d, which allows me to pull lines like autocad (if you want, but I don't want! :biggrin or use the road, environmental and hydraulic design tools that the software makes available to me to design, and not to draw! :wink:

regarding revit, they are always points of view. yesterday talking to a customer, this told me quite frankly that with the passage from lt to revit saved the dry cost of an employee (50.000€/year approximately)... :finger:

 

[roberto 2011]

I didn't say that autocad is a bowl. I said I'd rather spend a little more and have an autocad-based solution. I am, among other things, an enthusiastic user of autocad civilization 3d, which allows me to pull rows like autocad (if you want, but I don't want!) or use the road, environmental and hydraulic design tools that the software makes available to me to design, and not to draw!

regarding revit, they are always points of view. yesterday talking to a customer, this told me quite frankly that with the passage from lt to revit saved the dry cost of an employee (50.000€/year approximately). .

tristan tries to realize that not all business realities are large, which can afford to buy 10 programs that revolve around autocad.

There are so many, like me, who work alone and must, we must, be very careful about what we buy. . . .

I'm happy for that gentleman who saved an employee. I would kill them all....

note well: I am ironic and joking. :biggrin:

then there would always be to see what gets out with certain programs. I've seen so many in my life.

 

[GiGa]

Of course, it would be the easiest, short and economic road, but then if I say particular I cannot even put the tolerances (mechanical sector).

but what tolerances do you have to put?
I went on for years with lt (parlando of only 2d) before switching to mechanical, and I always managed to put in the drawings everything I wanted, obviously following exactly the customer standard. . .
I did the switch to mechanical only because I went to inventor, not because with lt I was limited (always talking about the 2d, of course).
Of course now with mechanics is easier, but studying us a little, with lt you can do many more things than it seems.. .
...of the series: "I've seen lt menu that you humans... "

tristan tries to realize that not all business realities are large, which can afford to buy 10 programs that revolve around autocad.

I believe that tristan refers to the fact that now suites are definitely the choice, even economically, more convenient... with little more than the cost of the only autocad (in fact, now at the same time since with 2013 convert the mechanics to the suite for free), you will find a series of "programmoni" that would allow to be much more productive (working in 3d, otherwise it would be enough lt)...

 

[roberto 2011]

I believe that tristan refers to the fact that now suites are definitely the choice, even economically, more convenient... with little more than the cost of the only autocad (in fact, now at the same time since with 2013 convert the mechanics to the suite for free), you will find a series of "programmoni" that would allow to be much more productive (working in 3d, otherwise it would be enough lt)...

Yes, but since you can't go back, I would warn you that with the purchase of the suites made today, today, more convenient, then, as it happened with revit-autocad, you will no longer be able to get out of this purchase if there was need in the future... .