problem boards version student edition

[marcof]

Dear Marcof, if you don't want to answer the things we ask, it's not mandatory for you to do it.

Dear my beautiful mirkey, I was going to answer, and I did. You're quiet about reading the rest.

to more reason with these polemical tones.

I use tones that I consider appropriate to the context, without need to consult anyone, menh than less you. In this case, regarding tones, you also went fat that we are on a moderate forum.

I could be a company owner and have commissioned a certain job to a certain university and, having paid, I would like to have the job as you should.

We don't write shit for pleasure. if you commission a job the job must be done with regular material. otherwise you could commission a robbery, and want a "regular work". It has nothing to do with the university.

or I might have asked an authorized dealer if I could have the program 9 - 12 months before buying it and he gave me the university license.

ahahahah beautiful this, give you the program in proof version students and you want to turn 12 months of porva "to free" in 12 months of work done with regular software.
even in this case I would say that if you abstained from shooting bullshit (as if we had all the anella to the nose here) this would only make your hearty arguments less attackable.

The cr.... programs are located a bit around you and I think I didn't ask for anything.

you asked how to tie the student license files. It's more than enough.

Give it to you a rule before you accuse a person, without you knowing the whole story.

I know enough. you and roccolaser have expressed the desire to work with a student version, and this is illegal.

 

[ilmirkino]

Marcof, I'm sorry if I wrote some things. Say hi.

 

[cacciatorino]

Marcof, I'm sorry if I wrote some things, but I still haven't quite clear about dealing with a mental health patient. Say hi.

Maybe it's you who didn't realize that here you don't tolerate piracy, laugh.

 

[ilmirkino]

If your supplier used a student license to do a regular job, it's his problem, you just have to pretend that you do the job using a commercial license. what you are asking (cleaning "student" files to use them in regular jobs) is simply illegal, and equivalent to using pirate licenses. I paid my 6000 license, and it's gonna be a reason if it costs so much more than that student.

We did a job at a university for the development of a thesis, but at the end of the project we were told that it was not possible to convert to a commercial license. I guarantee we didn't stay well. Unfortunately, we were forced to have no relationship with that university.

 

[cacciatorino]

We did a job at a university for the development of a thesis, but at the end of the project we were told that it was not possible to convert to a commercial license. I guarantee we didn't stay well. Unfortunately, we were forced to have no relationship with that university.

I hope you didn't pay them. the rest students have to study, and the workers work. If you get students to work then the results are these. I know what I think when I see colleges jumping into the private market with the taxpayers' paid work tools: they make so much troubled tariffs do not have to shock the cost of the equipment! Fortunately, they make figures like this one you tell... .

I believe that your only solution is to claim that you're doing the work as a rule of art by senno' them to the gdf, which could happen to you if in your student drawings they end up in the hands of some of your competitors, for example.

 

[ilmirkino]

Unfortunately we paid them, because they had to make a protype and therefore there was a certain kind of agreement both economic and confidentiality. Today, that machine has been modified, but some groups and commercials have been made with those versions. we began to use sw since 2001 always original and official (only the 2010 version was elevated), but unfortunately we are encapsulated in this inconvenience.
It is not to make controversy or what, I only asked if it was possible to make a conversion, that's all. I also know that the only way is to redesign them, but I wanted to avoid it, since, in fact, we always had official licenses and "girano" us enough for this reason.

 

[re_solidworks]

Unfortunately we paid them, because they had to make a protype and therefore there was a certain kind of agreement both economic and confidentiality. Today, that machine has been modified, but some groups and commercials have been made with those versions. we began to use sw since 2001 always original and official (only the 2010 version was elevated), but unfortunately we are encapsulated in this inconvenience.
It is not to make controversy or what, I only asked if it was possible to make a conversion, that's all. I also know that the only way is to redesign them, but I wanted to avoid it, since, in fact, we always had official licenses and "girano" us enough for this reason.

In my opinion, you were incapable of commissioning the job, in the case of an industrial project for the university you had to specify between the clauses of the contract that the work had to be done with regular commercial software.
In my opinion it is right that it works like this, there are too many furbi in the world and if they did not do so every commercial license would have behind 10 student licenses working while the student would serve to "clean up" the files.

student licenses do not serve to "work" but to train students to use solidworks and models produced must remain tracked.

a retailer would never give you a student to try and never give it to you for 10 months. the test time should be a month and the solidworks corp when from these licenses mark to man the seller to know how the negotiation is going. the license that they give you is a commercial with time stamp.

I wanted to emphasize that the student that costs about 100 euros is equivalent to a premium and whose cost is 10k€.

 

[ilmirkino]

In my opinion, you were incapable of commissioning the job, in the case of an industrial project for the university you had to specify between the clauses of the contract that the work had to be done with regular commercial software.
In my opinion it is right that it works like this, there are too many furbi in the world and if they did not do so every commercial license would have behind 10 student licenses working while the student would serve to "clean up" the files.

student licenses do not serve to "work" but to train students to use solidworks and models produced must remain tracked.

a retailer would never give you a student to try and never give it to you for 10 months. the test time should be a month and the solidworks corp when from these licenses mark to man the seller to know how the negotiation is going. the license that they give you is a commercial with time stamp.

I wanted to emphasize that the student that costs about 100 euros is equivalent to a premium and whose cost is 10k€.

I didn't know the contractual conditions in detail, but surely if we do other steps like that, we'll know how to move. the facts date back to 2005/06 and I'm really upset to put me back there and redesign different stuff. patience.

 

[marcof]

We did a job at a university for the development of a thesis, but at the end of the project we were told that it was not possible to convert to a commercial license.

Well, next time you explain yourself well from the beginning so avoid being dicked.
said this, if you have agreed to pay a job licensed students is not that it is less excuseable than who the student license uses it in its own illegal way, so I feel like saying that you are well as a new dress!
beautiful eh exploit the work of students who cost you a tenth of the same work commissioned to a private engineering study? you wanted the bike and now.... pedal!

also ask to make conversion, you know very well, it is illegal. if you are in assistance because you do not turn to solidworks to get the procedure to convert your files, then we see who is invited to go to a mental igene institution.

I highly recommend you fly low, dodge the stones and plant it immediately here, because if you make me turn the bales I mark you not to the moderators but directly to the gdf, then we see. . .

 

[ilmirkino]

Well, next time you explain yourself well from the beginning so avoid being dicked.
said this, if you have agreed to pay a job licensed students is not that it is less excuseable than who the student license uses it in its own illegal way, so I feel like saying that you are well as a new dress!
beautiful eh exploit the work of students who cost you a tenth of the same work commissioned to a private engineering study? you wanted the bike and now.... pedal!

also ask to make conversion, you know very well, it is illegal. if you are in assistance because you do not turn to solidworks to get the procedure to convert your files, then we see who is invited to go to a mental igene institution.

I highly recommend you fly low, dodge the stones and plant it immediately here, because if you make me turn the bales I mark you not to the moderators but directly to the gdf, then we see. . .

But how do you think? exploit the work of students? are conventions that the state does to facilitate the new graduates: they learn a bit about the field job and companies invest. I have already asked for assistance the conversion procedure, but they have said that it does not exist, or at least, do not mean it. then, sorry, what are all these threats?

 

[Mike1967]

I think the situation is clear to all, now you can coat the tones and relax....
good holidays to all... I'm about to leave... And you? :smile:

 

[ilmirkino]

I think the situation is clear to all, now you can coat the tones and relax....
good holidays to all... I'm about to leave... And you? :smile:

:smile: Of course, only that gave me boredom to have been attacked so without even knowing the thing as it was and above all giving judgments not knowing the facts. and I apologize for using an offensive term. bon for you mike you are about to leave and good holidays. :smile:

 

[maxopus]

:smile: Of course, only that gave me boredom to have been attacked so without even knowing the thing as it was and above all giving judgments not knowing the facts. and I'm sorry I used an offensive term. bon for you mike you are about to leave and good holidays. :smile:

we say that you have been quite misguided:.
Marco has been quite incaxxed because unfortunately in here there passes many people "furba" asking for "singular" things and we are a bit tired of having to always tell "the rava and the fava" always on the same things.

who has been using software for many years (and even those who use it recently should know) knows very well that it is illegal to use licenses for student use or files generated by such licenses.
theoretically you could tell me that it's not your fault but your "supplier".
the law does not admit ignorance in this sense and since when you opened the files you certainly noticed that there was the "cappellino", if you get caught you you can not say "we did not know".

If he finds out the gdf takes you straight in front of a judge to explain what really happened and I guarantee you don't get away with a fine.

the advice is therefore to eliminate all documents generated by student licenses as soon as possible from your archives ... if they take you they blow up like the pins on the bowling alley.

 

[re_solidworks]

I invite everyone to calm and to speak as you must, to the next offensive or rude intervention I close the discussion and stop.
for how I think marcof is expressing a correct concept wrongly and I explain better:
If the university wants to design and give designs or models promised as usable in the commercial field, it must have a commercial license, an academy is not made for this.
trying to turn these files is like counterfeiting the software, this is true. I would also be able to lower the cost now of my study of 5 euros if I paid the licenses 100 euros.
who puts himself on the market (in this case the university) with the wrong academics and should make it clear that the models should be remade in order to be used.
Then I am not a lawyer, but in my opinion it is right that they should be remade, if you knew from the beginning that the models had to be used for production in my opinion is the diversity that in order to comply with its obligations should provide for conversion and that is to buy a li and remake everything.
for those who pay the software (like me) it is very annoying to know that there are people who work (in fact the university has made a job) without paying at the same price the tools. I do not distinguish between those who use student fraudulently and those who download softwares from the mule.
I think that's why marcof gets warmer (I invite him back to calm).
If you weren't aware... There is no remedy, you have to do it again and you will be more aware next time... .
the rest of the opinion that the unit was not correct to you (as far as I read).

 

[ilmirkino]

we say that you have been quite misguided:.
Marco has been quite incaxxed because unfortunately in here there passes many people "furba" asking for "singular" things and we are a bit tired of having to always tell "the rava and the fava" always on the same things.

who has been using software for many years (and even those who use it recently should know) knows very well that it is illegal to use licenses for student use or files generated by such licenses.
theoretically you could tell me that it's not your fault but your "supplier".
the law does not admit ignorance in this sense and since when you opened the files you certainly noticed that there was the "cappellino", if you get caught you you can not say "we did not know".

If he finds out the gdf takes you straight in front of a judge to explain what really happened and I guarantee you don't get away with a fine.

the advice is therefore to eliminate all documents generated by student licenses as soon as possible from your archives ... if they take you they blow up like the pins on the bowling alley.

thanks maxopus for clarification and advice. We didn't know to go against these things and far from me to create or mess up. I like to cooperate and help. I can understand marcof that he got angry because there are so many tricks, but you must also understand how I felt treated that it is since 2001 that we buy and cancelly renew the sw licenses (except 2010) and I was attacked. I repeat, it was commissioned a job at the university, and these files of "educative version" came out, but never we would have thought of so many witches. we have not been informed for good. We will certainly redesign everything, because it is useless to pay thousands of euros for licenses and then risk sanctions for jobs not made by us. I apologize for using a bad word, but this morning, as soon as I woke up, when I saw what he wrote, I didn't give my neuron a chance to wake up. :smile:

 

[ilmirkino]

I invite everyone to calm and to speak as you must, to the next offensive or rude intervention I close the discussion and stop.
for how I think marcof is expressing a correct concept wrongly and I explain better:
If the university wants to design and give designs or models promised as usable in the commercial field, it must have a commercial license, an academy is not made for this.
trying to turn these files is like counterfeiting the software, this is true. I would also be able to lower the cost now of my study of 5 euros if I paid the licenses 100 euros.
who puts himself on the market (in this case the university) with the wrong academics and should make it clear that the models should be remade in order to be used.
Then I am not a lawyer, but in my opinion it is right that they should be remade, if you knew from the beginning that the models had to be used for production in my opinion is the diversity that in order to comply with its obligations should provide for conversion and that is to buy a li and remake everything.
for those who pay the software (like me) it is very annoying to know that there are people who work (in fact the university has made a job) without paying at the same price the tools. I do not distinguish between those who use student fraudulently and those who download softwares from the mule.
I think that's why marcof gets warmer (I invite him back to calm).
If you weren't aware... There is no remedy, you have to do it again and you will be more aware next time... .
the rest of the opinion that the unit was not correct to you (as far as I read).

I fully endorse what you said, and as I wrote in the post above, we were incapable of deepening the university issue. next time we know how to do it.
thanks and excuse for the controversy.

 

[marcof]

at this point I make a unique answer by listing various posts of "ilmirkino" but it takes me a premise.
the premise is this: I had seen it rightAlthough those who ask for information or help are well looked at by clearly exposing the problems in 90% of cases.
I therefore subscribe to everything I have written in post n°17, both in content and in form.
I read 16 posts related to research by "roccolaser" and "ilmirkino" of a method to tick of files obtained from student license which, being in a working environment, are illicit and on this there are no other discussions to do. point.
I then wrote what I had to write and that in maneira eulcorata was then written below by all the other participants in the discussion.
Now, all these premores to write by giving themselves to "you" as if we were always at the tea of the bear ladies frankly for me are out of place, so I will continue, when I feel it necessary, to write with the tone that I will feel appropriate.
we were in a thread that violates the fourm regulation; There was nothing to be nice for. In spite of that, I, did not give any mentally ill to anyone.
it took however 36 posts to arrive at the conclusions (also from "ilmirkino") that I had expressed in post 17.
and all these posts were necessary because they attached themselves to the form instead of the substance, i.e. it was enough that "ilmirkino" which is obviously not stupid, did not resent knowing well to be wrong.

and now we come to the answers I had accented, that I don't like to leave things halfway. . .

But how do you think? exploit the work of students? are conventions that the state does to facilitate the new graduates: they learn a bit about the job on the field and companies invest

You can believe me on the word. They laugh so brightly that you finally confirmed what I had written in post 17. They also like one who reads the software licensing agreements and who knows very well, as you know, that you have commissioned a job that has been performed an illegal way, using software for didactic use, for which the supplier has paid and you have paid without ensuring the regularity of the received. one of the crimes involved in your contract is called incauto purchase that in the most serious cases arises in the recipe.

I have already asked for assistance the conversion procedure, but they have said that it does not exist, or at least, do not mean it.

You're lucky you have nothing to do with siemens... At a similar request I think that, rightly, they would have done to you and to the professor who was in charge of the project, a butt like a shed.

then, sorry, what are all these threats?

those of the signalling to the gdf were absolutely no threats, they were promises. You can believe me on the word.
Then you changed your register and, in spite of my avatar, I'm not one who keeps rancori. But I'm one that doesn't make so many useless words and before writing I connect my brain.

gave me boredom to have been attacked so without even knowing the thing as it was and above all giving judgments not knowing the facts.

as you can well see things were instead accurately as I wrote: you wanted to use for commercial purposes files created by student licenses. When you wrote the phrase above you knew that things were so but you insisted on your position. I seem reconsidered, but I read carefully, I understand perfectly what I read and above all I remember precisely the consecutio of the various dialogues.

and I apologize for using an offensive term.

Apologies accepted.

I can understand marcof that he got angry because there are so many tricks, but you must also understand how I felt treated that it is since 2001 that we buy and cancelly renew the sw licenses (except 2010) and I was attacked.

It doesn't matter that your licenses are regular. you have commissioned a job that has been done illegally however trying to use the files for commercial purposes "delete" from the watermarks.
So I attacked exactly the behavior that was to attack. the rest is mirror climbing and in court they would contest you exactly (or more) what I challenged you.

I apologize for using a bad word

It's something that happens. accepted apologies and stone above.

p.s. I see that often the concept that dealing with such topics is dangerous first of all for the forum, which could be the subject of protests or worse by software houses.
and the forum is of all, so there is little to cinguettare, be courteous and take reverence.

p.p.s. About "roccolaser", which is then the first that opened the issue of the student license: I see that it is holding a very low profile, just razor, and you look good from specifying how it has to deal with student licenses, being he an artisan.
but perhaps he is too busy asking for another help, having exchanged the forum with a help desk. I don't have time or want to go to read his 175 posts and see how many he wrote to give an answer to help other users because I'm afraid to know the result already.

 

[ilmirkino]

stone over also for me and without grudge. :finger::finger: we have acted in good faith (wrong and risking big). next time we'll be more cautious. Good weekend

 

[re_solidworks]

Hello guys I wanted to ask you one thing, but did you ever happen that when mold on the bottom left comes out, only academic use? Is there a way to remove that writing?

files created with these versions should be generated to practice with cad having the requirements required by that version, i.e. you must be students or a school,
academic files cannot be used for commercial purposes, their use in these cases is equivalent to using counterfeit software.
Therefore if academic files are found within commercial projects paid to a supplier, I recommend that you ask your supplier to provide you with regular files and in case of refusal I recommend that you turn to gdf by reporting irregularities.

I stress that it is not possible and it is not legal to convert files generated with the student edition, not even paying and even passing through assistance.