gnome-rhone 14m mars

[Er Presidente]

Okay, I think it's time to make a stop to check out all the work done.
I ask everyone to calmly load the steps and make all assembly checks consistency.
We don't move a millimeter until we're sure it's not all perfect!

the "pieces" begin to be many, better "loss time" now for the verifications that you then have to go back on your steps.

sampom, I think I remember that you were a good "tritasfere," they call you a verification, we all lose from your lips.

Clearly we all have the right/have to do the checks and the relative criticism, so much then "I decide"!

Take the time you want, in 48 hours we are affected with the resulta.

 

[Exatem]

with these I should make the president happy. . .

 

[marcof]

Okay, I think it's time to make a stop to check out all the work done.
I ask everyone to calmly load the steps and make all assembly checks consistency.
We don't move a millimeter until we're sure it's not all perfect!

I agree! .
I believe that it agrees to start from a check on the step files loaded on gd. there are duplicates, like the complete shaft, but it does not have the update of the external crown of the reducer that you see in the last models.
to do controls you must be sure that the files are all up to date. In my complete set, for example, the two mothers interfere with the elbow tree.

 

[Er Presidente]

with these I should make the president happy. . .

two iron crosses and a mention for "ferreo attachment to duty"!

can you try to load all the "pieces" up to here assembled and reproduce the section in 2d identical to the general one?
So I can verify that I only have paint...
- - - updated - - - -

I agree! .
I believe that it agrees to start from a check on the step files loaded on gd. there are duplicates, like the complete shaft, but it does not have the update of the external crown of the reducer that you see in the last models.
to do controls you must be sure that the files are all up to date. In my complete set, for example, the two mothers interfere with the elbow tree.

Can you post some pictures?

 

[Exatem]

I agree! .
I believe that it agrees to start from a check on the step files loaded on gd. there are duplicates, like the complete shaft, but it does not have the update of the external crown of the reducer that you see in the last models.
to do controls you must be sure that the files are all up to date. In my complete set, for example, the two mothers interfere with the elbow tree.

two iron crosses and a mention for "ferreo attachment to duty"!

can you try to load all the "pieces" up to here assembled and reproduce the section in 2d identical to the general one?
So I can verify that I only have paint...
- - - updated - - - -Can you post some pictures?

I hoped in the cross of knight of the iron cross and precisely in the cross of knight with oak branches in gold, swords and diamonds but I will settle:

coming to serious things... what do you say, would not be the case of "cleaning" gd and loading only verified steps? I begin to have problems in denouncing the assemblies that are doing quite complex even if I try to follow the pattern adopted in the plans.
For example, I have verified and ready the group of the parastraps, what done so far for the reducer and much of the motor shaft with sampom corrections.
I would also suspend the realization of making of all the assemblies because recharge every time everything is causing me a start of schizophrenic paranoia. There are no problems for making individual sub-assistances.

but the composition in a single set of all subaxiemi, who does it?

@marcof, can you tell me where the interferences between biella and tree are?

 

[Er Presidente]

I hoped in the cross of knight of the iron cross and precisely in the cross of knight with oak branches in gold, swords and diamonds but I will settle:

Yes and then, what would remain? Calm down, calm down, I'll tear away before I get it!

coming to serious things... what do you say, would not be the case of "cleaning" gd and loading only verified steps?

I prepare a "released" folder where you can "park" the verified models.

I begin to have problems in denouncing the assemblies that are doing quite complex even if I try to follow the pattern adopted in the plans.

You can use a progressive to queue the plank.

For example, I have verified and ready the group of the parastraps, what done so far for the reducer and much of the motor shaft with sampom corrections.

I think we need to use the "track system", who model can't even "deliberate."

I would also suspend the realization of making of all the assemblies because recharge every time everything is causing me a start of schizophrenic paranoia. There are no problems for making individual sub-assistances.

What?! Where do you want to be shot in the back?
but if we do structured subaxis, the large assembly could be "reassembled" by placing a few large groups.

but the composition in a single set of all subaxiemi, who does it?

beautiful question, could have been the blurred one of maxopus, or hunter (with the synchro of if), but also he "has to do". . .
We need to find someone who works with neutrals.

@marcof, can you tell me where the interferences between biella and tree are?

Marcof, at least you and sampom, put on "good wool" and make a list of things to settle, at least we will have the situation under control. according to an old president's rule if you list the problems you've already solved them halfway!

:wink:

p.s.: on caxxooooo! hand to the caxxoooooo!

 

[marcof]

@marcof, can you tell me where the interferences between biella and tree are?

I attach a pdf of the section of the tree+bielle group. Obviously this is the last tree I had available and that is then what you find when you load my complete set.
If I do a test with verification interferences I find more, even in the axieme of the tree, than those that I have scored on the section, based only on what jumps to the eye. ah, the two twins still do not turn out now distant between them 140 mm as from original quoted design.

 

[marcof]

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but the composition in a single set of all subaxiemi, who does it?

beautiful question, could have been the blurred one of maxopus, or hunter (with the synchro of if), but also he "has to do". . .
We need to find someone who works with neutrals.

and give him the neutri, but yours is a mania! :biggrin:
the general axieme can put it together anyone, or rather each puts together his, is not a problem.
the fact is that you can not make corrections on the steps when the work is still sketched. In fact, corrections are not to be done even after. Steps must come out precise and ready to assemble.

Marcof, at least you and sampom, put on "good wool" and make a list of things to settle, at least we will have the situation under control.

Unfortunately a real control is possible (in the sense of "easy") only on the native file that has the basis of the layout image. upload a step, do the section and compare it to the layout from which it should be born is a reverse-delirio . if you work carefully doing the top-down assembling the error you can commit is the order of magnitude of the thickness of the sign. the fact of working in the context of the assembly allows then to update everything very quickly and safely with zero mounting interference. this means that the file must come out perfect (or perfect when there will be definitive designs) from the cad in which it was created.
if we begin to shoot with steps on the individual components we do not come out

 

[Exatem]

I attach a pdf of the section of the tree+bielle group. Obviously this is the last tree I had available and that is then what you find when you load my complete set.
If I do a test with verification interferences I find more, even in the axieme of the tree, than those that I have scored on the section, based only on what jumps to the eye. ah, the two twins still do not turn out now distant between them 140 mm as from original quoted design.

I think you're referring to one of the first versions of the group.
after sampom surgery, I corrected the disassessment between trees and most of the interferences you highlighted and the distance between the biella is now exactly 140mm.
However I repeat again all the assieme and just finished, place step and pdf updated.
Bye.

 

[marcof]

I think you're referring to one of the first versions of the group.
after sampom surgery, I corrected the disassessment between trees and most of the interferences you highlighted and the distance between the biella is now exactly 140mm.
However I repeat again all the assieme and just finished, place step and pdf updated.
Bye.

Okay, but you erase old files from gd that don't fit because there's a lot of confusion. the file that I have of the tree (which is what you find in the complete axieme) on gd for example there is no more and the two present are even older doubles.

 

[Exatem]

Okay, but you erase old files from gd that don't fit because there's a lot of confusion. the file that I have of the tree (which is what you find in the complete axieme) on gd for example there is no more and the two present are even older doubles.

I would spy on him with a caterpillar and then to be sure I would give us a pass with your medium that will not be technologically cutting edge, but if there is to be crushed. . crush.
Now I verify everything and then place the good version.
Hi.

 

[Exatem]

I have loaded on gd the following assemblies.
vvilebrequin
_
_

in addition to a set of three with biella and cam additions (so the president is happy).
I checked odds and interference by correcting errors and imperfections and completely remaking the v_262 part that was objectively packed while I also did the missing parts (minutaglia like washers and caps).
the interference encountered by marcof between tree and biella, is due to the measurement of the biella foot that instead of being 70mm, is 72mm therefore sampom should correct the v_311 part.

 

[Er Presidente]

I recommend we complete the checks and finishings before we move on.
Please put a wrml version for each step so even those who do not have a cad can recognize the pieces and work to keep the archive and excell sheet in order.
Alternatively you could put a jpg with the same code always for classification purposes (which you could also "connect" with a hyperlink to the electronic sheet.

 

[Er Presidente]

and give him the neutri, but yours is a mania! :biggrin:
the general axieme can put it together anyone, or rather each puts together his, is not a problem.
the fact is that you can not make corrections on the steps when the work is still sketched. In fact, corrections are not to be done even after. Steps must come out precise and ready to assemble.



Unfortunately a real control is possible (in the sense of "easy") only on the native file that has the basis of the layout image. upload a step, do the section and compare it to the layout from which it should be born is a reverse-delirio . if you work carefully doing the top-down assembling the error you can commit is the order of magnitude of the thickness of the sign. the fact of working in the context of the assembly allows then to update everything very quickly and safely with zero mounting interference. this means that the file must come out perfect (or perfect when there will be definitive designs) from the cad in which it was created.
if we begin to shoot with steps on the individual components we do not come out

I can't stand you anymore. I'm a top-of-a-one already broke me.

 

[radio]

I recommend we complete the checks and finishings before we move on.
Please put a wrml version for each step so even those who do not have a cad can recognize the pieces and work to keep the archive and excell sheet in order.
Alternatively you could put a jpg with the same code always for classification purposes (which you could also "connect" with a hyperlink to the electronic sheet.

wrml? Isn't it a little... desueted?
I also do not have a direct translator, but I have the possibility to export to pdf 3d (in fact all my models are also available in pdf 3d).
If we all have the possibility to export in pdf 3d I would say that it would be ideal to use that, right big buana capone?

 

[radio]

Okay, I think it's time to make a stop to check out all the work done.
I ask everyone to calmly load the steps and make all assembly checks consistency.
We don't move a millimeter until we're sure it's not all perfect!

the "pieces" begin to be many, better "loss time" now for the verifications that you then have to go back on your steps.

sampom, I think I remember that you were a good "tritasfere," they call you a verification, we all lose from your lips.

Clearly we all have the right/have to do the checks and the relative criticism, so much then "I decide"!

Take the time you want, in 48 hours we are affected with the resulta.

Do we load every single piece as distinct, or the various subgroups as done until now?

 

[marcof]

I have loaded on gd the following assemblies.
vvilebrequin
_
_

I opened the complete axieme to quickly verify some things that didn't come back to the reducer.
the first two that jumped to my eye:
I don't know if it depends on the fact that you haven't finished it yet, but on the plank the main tree with the satellite headquarters I see it done as attached images.I tried to assemble it on the engine shaft and the satellite gears stick to the front of the outer mobile crown that drags them. in the vb plan you can see well that they are perfectly aligned to the front face of the crown.
in our model if the satellites align the heads of the rolling pins vii_404 go to interfere with the inner face of the mobile horn.

 

[Exatem]

I opened the complete axieme to quickly verify some things that didn't come back to the reducer.
the first two that jumped to my eye:
I don't know if it depends on the fact that you haven't finished it yet, but on the plank the main tree with the satellite headquarters I see it done as attached images.View attachment 32452View attachment 32453I tried to assemble it on the engine shaft and the satellite gears stick to the front of the outer mobile crown that drags them. in the vb plan you can see well that they are perfectly aligned to the front face of the crown.
in our model if the satellites align the heads of the rolling pins vii_404 go to interfere with the inner face of the mobile horn.

Marco, you travel at a different speed than mine, a much higher speed.
I explained that I am a neophyte and I am using the gnome to try to learn creo (which is not properly user friendly).
I need more time to do what you do in few and for you simple steps.
the reducing group is not yet finished, it lacks more than 60-70% and at the moment I don't even know if I can model it all correctly so maybe for the project it is better that I limit myself to making axioms shaped by you (always if they are of your liking).
I at the continuous limit for dialect and for personal interest.

 

[marcof]

Marco, you travel at a different speed than mine, a much higher speed.
I explained that I am a neophyte and I am using the gnome to try to learn creo (which is not properly user friendly).
I need more time to do what you do in few and for you simple steps.

exatem, it was not my intention to put you any kind of rush (which we have, indeed, I am to pull a little brake...) or worse to criticize a lot at the kilo. Forget it.
for me this gnome thing is an evening pastime (when I have time). It's not exactly the case of filling the bitter blood so if I misunderstood me.
I limited myself to doing some control (even because these last models were in the "models_released" folder and I thought they were so final) reporting to you what didn't come back.

the reducing group is not yet finished, it lacks over 60-70%
and at the moment I don't even know if I can model it all correctly so maybe for the project it is better that I limit myself to making axioms shaped by you (always that they are of your liking).
I at the continuous limit for dialect and for personal interest.

oh exa... We don't write atomic propulsion minks, please! :smile:
It is only about organizing a layout from the relative planche, resized as accurately as possible, and on that build all its group. if you do all inside the assembling you will have away more and more 3d geometry to which to connect the various parts you are modeling and the layout will serve less and less, if not to remind you which components are missing. :finger:

 

[Er Presidente]

wrml? Isn't it a little... desueted?
I also do not have a direct translator, but I have the possibility to export to pdf 3d (in fact all my models are also available in pdf 3d).
If we all have the possibility to export in pdf 3d I would say that it would be ideal to use that, right big buana capone?

I agree! Unfortunately I'm not used to these modern devils! :finger: