what program to learn?

[Anna Paola]

Good morning.
I would like to learn well a program (or even two) hoping for a future working in mechanics. on which point? provided that I can use a bit pro/e 3.0, I would have the possibility to use also solidworks, solid edge or autocad (the latter two in the student version). which do you recommend me among these 4?

 

[marcof]

Good morning.
I would like to learn well a program (or even two) hoping for a future working in mechanics. on which point? provided that I can use a bit pro/e 3.0, I would have the possibility to use also solidworks, solid edge or autocad (the latter two in the student version). which do you recommend me among these 4?

do not waste time behind d autocad. solidedge and solidworks testing, which as operational modes more or less resemble and learned one step smoothly to the other and there are in student version

 

[Anna Paola]

and pro/e? Don't you use that much?

 

[volaff]

the most used cads are the following:

- Catia

- creo parametric (ex pro-engineering)

- No.

 

[Andrea Bellachioma]

hi anna paola, if you look in the forum there are already similar discussions.
everything depends on the most used in the area where you operate or intend to operate!

 

[Anna Paola]

thanks to all for the answers... :


I care about working, where and where I don't care... So I'm trying to figure out what is the program that opens me as many doors as possible or that allows me to learn more easily once I learn that!

 

[fabryh]

by experience I can tell you that more or less one is worth the other.... then according to where you find work you learn to use what they have.

I learned to use solidedge during the unit because they had it where I did the thesis...... where I found work then use proes (today I create) and I learned from scratch to use it in the first months of work.....if you are lucky they also make you do courses.

 

[The_Matrix]

It is not that it works that you learn a cad then you work.. .
and an area, it's not worth the other.
So.
if you want to work in the automotive sector: nx - catia
if you intend to work in machinery: swx - se - proe - nx
if you intend to work in consumer goods: swx - proe - nx
if you intend to work in the railway field: Catia - nx
if you want to work in the layout field: autocad
if you intend to work in shipbuilding: had - nx - catia - microstation
if you intend to work in energy: nx - catia

 

[Utente cancellato 55291]

nx .... nxoverall!!!!

 

[numero1]

It is not that it works that you learn a cad then you work.. .
and an area, it's not worth the other.
So.
if you want to work in the automotive sector: nx - catia
if you intend to work in machinery: swx - se - proe - nx
if you intend to work in consumer goods: swx - proe - nx
if you intend to work in the railway field: Catia - nx
if you want to work in the layout field: autocad
if you intend to work in shipbuilding: had - nx - catia - microstation
if you intend to work in energy: nx - catia

in the field of plant:
pds (now sp3d) - pdms - cadmatic - bentley autoplant - autoplant 3d - autocad - microstation
I don't know if you matrix referred to the energy field intended as plants and their piping.
Hi.

 

[The_Matrix]

in the field of plant:
pds (now sp3d) - pdms - cadmatic - bentley autoplant - autoplant 3d - autocad - microstation
I don't know if you matrix referred to the energy field intended as plants and their piping.
Hi.

Sorry, unclear.
I was referring to the design of turbines and machines.
for the plant part where the "tubing" does it as master, surely the applications you mention, more had.

 

[painaz]

do there exist data on the number of licenses installed?

I occasionally hover the site of grabcad: the number of models made in solidworks is impressive. then, to nose, follows caia, spaced solidedge, far creo and good last inventor.

Obviously it is not a significant sample for the area I care about (north east), but the models placed on grabcad are hundreds of thousands and some statistical value should be there.

I make these arguments because I am looking around to change work and I wondered if after proe and solidedge it was worth investing a little time (and possible course) on solidworks.

 

[CATSEGGIO]

do there exist data on the number of licenses installed?

I occasionally hover the site of grabcad: the number of models made in solidworks is impressive. then, to nose, follows caia, spaced solidedge, far creo and good last inventor.

Obviously it is not a significant sample for the area I care about (north east), but the models placed on grabcad are hundreds of thousands and some statistical value should be there.

I make these arguments because I am looking around to change work and I wondered if after proe and solidedge it was worth investing a little time (and possible course) on solidworks.

good last inventor I don't think so, if it continues so overpass solidworks
I had already reported the page here http://www.cad3d.it/forum1/showthre...to-del-mercato&p=339716&viewfull=1#post339716
rimetto la imm
e il linkhttp://www.slideshare.net/christurner13/2014-cad-trends-survey-from-business-advantage

 

[numero1]

If I understand your cat image well represents the situation at European and perhaps world level.
painaz, instead, gave a limited judgment to the north-east of Italy.... at least I think.
:

 

[PierArg]

I think it's strange... it's not like nx

 

[calacc]

It is not that it works that you learn a cad then you work.. .
and an area, it's not worth the other.
So.
if you want to work in the automotive sector: nx - catia
if you intend to work in machinery: swx - se - proe - nx
if you intend to work in consumer goods: swx - proe - nx
if you intend to work in the railway field: Catia - nx
if you want to work in the layout field: autocad
if you intend to work in shipbuilding: had - nx - catia - microstation
if you intend to work in energy: nx - catia

add

motorcycle: - nx
engine design: proe

However, I would first evaluate the real job opportunities that are expected, then I would throw myself on a sw or another depending on the need. are all tools, if you know how to plan to move from one to another is a little like changing cars. you don't forget how to drive, at most it changes some approach or some function but the basic concepts are always those.

 

[painaz]

add

motorcycle: - nx
engine design: proe

However, I would first evaluate the real job opportunities that are expected, then I would throw myself on a sw or another depending on the need. are all tools, if you know how to plan to move from one to another is a little like changing cars. you don't forget how to drive, at most it changes some approach or some function but the basic concepts are always those.

Yes, I understand, and I agree to add.

but you must also be realistic.

I remember the first job: The cad was me10. an engineer, a designer, at the end of the fair, must produce a technical document. that is a design. this first in the north-east: the enterprises are small, oriented to the mechanics "cold". is a model that works (va) but does little research and development. very often the engineer makes the designer "specialized", that if necessary pulls out the calculator, the dove and makes true dimensioning. 90% of the cases draw, with the added value of having a greater awareness (compared to the expert) of some choices (materials etc.)

not to diminish the periti, for charity. I have known experts and technicians coming out of the professionals in front of which I am removed the hat more than
once.

but altogether the situation is this.

then, I said: first use me10, this stranger. for those who know it (me10) knows that without a custom interface it is useless.
There were no "for idiots" manuals, I learned to use it in the company. and it takes time.

same for cad 3d.

I use well proe and solidedge. use well does not mean to make the single "fi" model with tweaks, slips and various amenities. 99% of the pieces is much easier. for that with solidwork it would be enough for me half a day, given the philosophy similar to proe and if (sincrus aside).

use well means pull out a drawing from a design studio of a assembled.
use well means topdown, understand how to model (parameters first) to make the piece easily editable at the level of together without blowing feature and assembly constraints.

for example on these proe things is very strict, until you solve the broken references with the cabbage that makes you go ahead.

so the reality is this. Today the companies, strangled by the crisis, take you if you are operational immediately.
often they have no training, the guy who knows how to use the cad the "paron" doesn't even know the cad system he uses. look for another operative now.

that is why I have done these considerations, while knowing that a technician first of all is a technician, then an operator who translates with a specific cad what he has in his head.

Say hi, go.

 

[meccanicamg]

learning more programs is indispensable, then as they told you depends on what field you go. autocad you must know how to use it because both for winery suppliers, layout changes, basic sketch concepts, comparison of plants between suppliers or projects is the most used even if not in-depth.


3d solidworks modelers used a little everywhere, catia in the car industry and however for very high level of applications, inventor for machine tools and equipment, modeling is depopulating and however many are using it for non-parametric speech even if they are implementing parametric part. I mean, it would be good to know a little bit about where you happen.


it often happens that competing companies traditionally use the same software.... or depends on geographical areas. It's mixed. so many small and medium companies still work in 2d with autocad or me10....so also the consultation of the historian is indispensable.

the basic thing is to learn the modeling techniques that are similar in the end. important is the management and manipulation of projects and files.

superfundamental is know how to design, dimension, evaluate costs and materials.

important to make right and reasoned accounts, use regulations, know how to make structural fem... one more can be found in reinforced concrete and piping