tables that "explode" when updating the model

[korner]

Bye to all,
I often happen that, after making changes to a part of the model, the tables that concern it are completely to be remade. in practice the views, sections, details, etc., are "disappeared" in positions far from the cart. lose odds, symbols and a lot of other stuff.

inventor 2013 professional updated

If someone has ideas...
Thank you.

 

[stefanobruno]

If the changes are important, it can happen that.
If the changes are only odds that change and do not change the form, then it is only your fault.
the putting into the table should be done carefully, the sketches that generate the sections or the views split or relimited, must be hooked to the object, otherwise it is certain that they will go away.
all sketches you have to generate them only after selecting the starting view, otherwise they will be hooked to the sheet and not to the subject you want to treat.

 

[korner]

If the changes are important, it can happen that.
If the changes are only odds that change and do not change the form, then it is only your fault.
the putting into the table should be done carefully, the sketches that generate the sections or the views split or relimited, must be hooked to the object, otherwise it is certain that they will go away.
all sketches you have to generate them only after selecting the starting view, otherwise they will be hooked to the sheet and not to the subject you want to treat.

I do exactly like that. inventor I have used it for a long time and for quite big jobs too. But this kind of problem never happened to me.
seems a speech related to the origin of the model that, in this last work, is shaped in original coordinates that are not close to the origin of the design

 

[Tarkus]

................................................ appears a speech related to the origin of the model that, in this last work, is shaped in original coordinates that are not close to the origin of the design

You probably answered yourself, if the changes move the piece from the origin, it's clear that the odds are copper.
rather I would like to reiterate what he said stefanobruno, in order to avoid inconvenience, the sections must be made using lines of section created with sketches ad hoc and bound to the geometry of the piece, otherwise they go where they want.:wink:

 

[korner]

You probably answered yourself, if the changes move the piece from the origin, it's clear that the odds are copper.
rather I would like to reiterate what he said stefanobruno, in order to avoid inconvenience, the sections must be made using lines of section created with sketches ad hoc and bound to the geometry of the piece, otherwise they go where they want.:wink:

changes do not move the piece from the origin. I just said that modeling takes place away from the origin. but once done, I supply typical changes of any work: variations of thickness, small variations of geometries and so on. I don't move the piece in a new position. regarding sketches, I repeat, that I use it for a long time, I know how to use sketches within the views, what to project and how to be able to hook them to the view.

 

[Tarkus]

Okay, I didn't want to teach you the job, it was just to punctuate.
At this point it's pretty strange, isn't it that you can post the model?

 

[korner]

Okay, I didn't want to teach you the job, it was just to punctuate.
At this point it's pretty strange, isn't it that you can post the model?

Don't worry. I realize that the problem is strange and I expected initial attempts to fix things from key concepts.
I wonder if I can post something, I don't want them to make me a "tear of ears."

However I asked for help also to autodesk, if they ever answer me, I will let you know

 

[stefanobruno]

I have to say that the table of 2014 seems less tolerant than the previous ones.
I model absolutely according to the good success of the table, I know how much it costs in terms of time a good commissioning.
similar pieces I already think of them with the same intent, no derivative piece unless the customer accepts the labels of item and left.
90-95% easily recover the harvests at the table but there is someone who just does not want to know.
Another thing is to attach the quota to the references of the model, sometimes I break the quota because it is more rational to move it elsewhere and, often, this does not stick to anything, it becomes necessary to put it back.
with 2012 never happened to me, 2015 I do not use it and I do not know if it keeps the problem.

 

[korner]

I'm trying to load something. but I didn't know if I had to wait for a cad3d answer...

I understand. My zip file is from 41m and is too big

 

[korner]

View attachment CaseNo-10101107.zipDid I?
I deleted some templates and stuff varies, if you know how to handle these things you should be able to open the files without too much difficulty.
to try to simulate the error there is enough to change scale to the windows in the tables.

good fun and thanks for the collaboration

 

[MauroM]

View attachment 38363Did I?
I deleted some templates and stuff varies, if you know how to handle these things you should be able to open the files without too much difficulty.
to try to simulate the error there is enough to change scale to the windows in the tables.

good fun and thanks for the collaboration

I put on the table a model that originally came from a step, and gives me a problem very similar to yours.
Have you found a solution?