simplified part size increase

[TECNOMODEL]

I have to create 3ds of some of our products to provide them to customers.
Obviously I have to provide a file that only serves for the design, so not understanding of its internal parts.
to do so, starting from a set, I created simplified parts that then I go to export in step.
the problem is that the simplified parts size "explodes". I start from a set of 155 kb, we suppress some parts, I create the simplified part and this becomes 15177 kb.
of course the step has similar dimensions and creates some problems during sending, opening etc.
Am I wrong? Is there a way to reduce the size of the simplified part?
at the limit it would also be good to be able to reduce the size of the step file, in the options though I find nothing to set to reduce it.

 

[Matteo Cappelli dis.CAD]

Have you tried "interrupted connection"?
or other solution, save the model in sat format and then insert it in autocad (insert acis file) and at this point in a very fast way go to erase everything that remained internally emptying it of the content.
then of course you can solve in step

if you also have mechanical (if you use inventor, theoretically you) you can manage the step with keyboard commands
stepin stepout

Hi.

 

[TECNOMODEL]

interesting this possibility to "empty" the model.

I'll make some evidence.
I will certainly still need your help, autocad I use it really little just to manage old designs.

 

[Il Mauri]

Have you tried "interrupted connection"?
or other solution, save the model in sat format and then insert it in autocad (insert acis file) and at this point in a very fast way go to erase everything that remained internally emptying it of the content.
then of course you can solve in step

if you also have mechanical (if you use inventor, theoretically you) you can manage the step with keyboard commands
stepin stepout

Hi.

with "interrupt connection" the file becomes (just) even heavier.

 

[TECNOMODEL]

Have you tried "interrupted connection"?
or other solution, save the model in sat format and then insert it in autocad (insert acis file) and at this point in a very fast way go to erase everything that remained internally emptying it of the content.
then of course you can solve in step

if you also have mechanical (if you use inventor, theoretically you) you can manage the step with keyboard commands
stepin stepout

Hi.

as I expected not knowing how to use autocad I need your help again.
I exported my simplified part into sat, obtained by suppressing the internal parts.
I imported it in autocad and now I should empty it as you suggested. only that the aid is already constituted of the only external parts. to empty it you meant to eliminate the inside parts? If you don't see the sense, I can do it as an inventor creating the simplified. It would be useful to eliminate internal processing, leaving only the outer shell, but it is not possible.
or at least so had emerged from other discussions.

 

[eugenesis]

I have to create 3ds of some of our products to provide them to customers.
Obviously I have to provide a file that only serves for the design, so not understanding of its internal parts.
to do so, starting from a set, I created simplified parts that then I go to export in step.
the problem is that the simplified parts size "explodes". I start from a set of 155 kb, we suppress some parts, I create the simplified part and this becomes 15177 kb.
of course the step has similar dimensions and creates some problems during sending, opening etc.
Am I wrong? Is there a way to reduce the size of the simplified part?
at the limit it would also be good to be able to reduce the size of the step file, in the options though I find nothing to set to reduce it.

How do you say the set is 155 kb???
the whole is a reference container, the comparison you have to do with the sum of the packs & go!!

then your generated part you have to simplify incoming when you drift by putting the correct options
(emption , holes , bounding-box etc.) , then with the dedicated tools you can remove bevels, unnecessary fittings ,
fill sufficient envelopes using the 2 appropriate simplification icons contained in the ribbon
of the ipt.

 

[TECNOMODEL]

What do you mean to simplify incoming?
I in the axieme suppress all that I do not want is exported, so all the internal parts.
so from "simplify" I make "create simplified part".
practically there are no other commands, in the options I can only choose between single solid or split solids.

would you be so kind as to indicate a ladder of how you would work?

 

[eugenesis]

For example, if you have a frame tubular, this has external and internal geometry with internal and external thickness and fittings,
if when you drift instead of the icon with the yellow cross, put the green cube (bounding-box or containment box)
when you have the derived ipt, you can simplify it with its icons

 

[TECNOMODEL]

So you suggest creating a derivative of the axieme before creating the simplified part?

what I have to create is a file of our products, in this case an oil pump, to be sent to customers.

to have everything that can serve to those who design the plant I must provide a file that includes all the outer parts of the pump with all the holes of the various attacks, as well as shafts, screw locations etc.

 

[eugenesis]

If you cannot automatically close the holes, you can fill them with simplification,
with a derivative ipt that then we suppress as a link, then I do what I want
based on what actually serves the customer.
the simplification I do it on ipt, not on the iam of departure in this case, however having to produce at the end an ipt

 

[TECNOMODEL]

But this means that for each product I have to go to get n simplified parts so many are the details that must be exported, assemble them in a new set and then create the simplified final part.
beyond work this involves a proliferation of remarkable files.

 

[Il Mauri]

how do you say the set is 155 kb???
the whole is a reference container, the comparison you have to do with the sum of the packs & go!!

then your generated part you have to simplify incoming when you drift by putting the correct options
(emption , holes , bounding-box etc.) , then with the dedicated tools you can remove bevels, unnecessary fittings ,
fill sufficient envelopes using the 2 appropriate simplification icons contained in the ribbon
of the ipt.

say well that it is necessary to simplify the incoming derivative, but to empty the holes or to simplify the parts with the green control with the white square that creates the encumbrance frames it is not possible as to distort the shape and the derivative and makes it useless (especially if it is without holes).
the only option i see effective is "remove all internal voids" which causes weight loss and non-snature (as an external form) the derivative.

 

[TECNOMODEL]

I wanted to make some evidence to understand whether your solution is valid or involves contraindications, but I do not understand what you intend to simplify the derivative.
this is the window that opens when creating the derivativeFirst of all, the "green box with the white square that creates the clusters" I don't see it.
and I don't even see the option "remove all internal voids."

I don't know how you suggest you work.

 

[eugenesis]

no, once you have created the ipt derivative part, save it and then use the commands that are in modelling ,
(you must bring out the appito menu --> simplifies).

 

[TECNOMODEL]

I saw, thank you.

It still seems like a far-reaching method. first I have to create a derivative for every detail I want to insert, then simplify it, then stop the link, finally create a new set.

so much it is worth saving by name, making a couple of extrusions to fill where it is necessary to do a new together.
This is also an absurd method.
for me working on small assemblies can still be feasible, I can't even imagine the casino for those who work on big assemblies.
Not to mention that if I change anything, I have to go check all that already done and make a good part of the job.

In this case I have to say that inventor is quite a deficit.

 

[eugenesis]

. No no, we're not, you don't have to make a derivative for every detail, but you do a unique derivative of your set already.
the visual representation already simplified (small parts, internal parts off) and the level of detail
right (filling, closing holes etc.).

then just simplify the derived ipt with the 3 icons that you find in modeling. .