how to bind a ball joint?

[marcof]

Does anyone have any idea how to bind a ball joint like that in figure so as to limit its rotation as in reality? I have a tie with one of these joints at each end and of course binding only the head of the conncetric sphere at its seat the overturns beyond the limits are inevitable. While I'm working on it, I don't think of anything. Maybe some of you have already solved a similar case in the past. physical dynamics is not a soluzioon as it should be activated every time.

here the assist: View attachment giunt snodato.rarHello and thank you

 

[Utente cancellato 70856]

limit angle couplings?http://help.solidworks.com/2016/ita...rks/t_limit_mates_swassy.htm#ukf1450446592661http://help.solidworks.com/2016/english/solidworks/sldworks/t_limit_mates_swassy.htm

 

[marcof]

limit angle couplings?http://help.solidworks.com/2016/ita...rks/t_limit_mates_swassy.htm#ukf1450446592661http://help.solidworks.com/2016/english/solidworks/sldworks/t_limit_mates_swassy.htm

Thank you.
that bond I did not consider it because it concerns movements along a plane so it would prevent the correct rotation of the ball in its seat (the selection of the two axes is not valid). the axis of the threaded pin can move by describing a cone with a maximum angle equal to the limit imposed by the contact between the pin of the ball and its seat.

 

[Utente cancellato 70856]

Thank you.
that bond I did not consider it because it concerns movements along a plane so it would prevent the correct rotation of the ball in its seat (the selection of the two axes is not valid). the axis of the threaded pin can move by describing a cone with a maximum angle equal to the limit imposed by the contact between the pin of the ball and its seat.

and if the center of the sphere was the origin?
Could you apply the limit angle to the three floors?

 

[salvoste]

Hello, I have prepared a demo, but it is in version 2017

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[marcof]

Hello, I have prepared a demo, but it is in version 2017

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Thank you, but as you see I have 2013. can you post some screenshots of the feature manager, any construction geometry, a description of the couplings or method you used so that it can remake it on my own version?

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

Can't you use the temporary axes? in this way the parts are completely blocked and you do not have degrees of freedom
the three images are:
1st hanging couplings and visible temporary axes
2nd an activated couple and interested axes highlighted in orange
3rd the other coupling activated and interested axes highlighted in orange

 

[marcof]

Can't you use the temporary axes? in this way the parts are completely blocked and you do not have degrees of freedom
the three images are:
1st hanging couplings and visible temporary axes
2nd an activated couple and interested axes highlighted in orange
3rd the other coupling activated and interested axes highlighted in orange

Thanks massive, but using one of the axes I find myself with the joint stuck on the other two as if it was a fork joint. I would really need the real behaviour because those joints link the remains to suqadra, so with rotation movements, which move on to non parallel planes. the case where the ball joints are used. for now I have solved with a simulacrum of the tie on one point at the end.
it would serve a type of limit coupling similar to the angle but that interests the rotation of a axis in the space around a vertex so that it would describe, at its limits, a movement along a conical surface.
wait for version 2056 sp5

 

[salvoste]

I hope to succeed in explaining myself, create a part with a flat surface free to turn on the axis of the seat, on this surface-plan constraints the pin with the limit of the degrees, and it is done, then hide the virtual part, in practice it is a corner bond on a free plan to turn

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

test with angle coupling limit by selecting the two temporary axes of my second image and keeping the coupling of the point you put

 

[marcof]

Thank you all! I solved brilliantly with the solution of stones, which is the fastest and that indirectly had been suggested also by motocad. probably yesterday I was baked but I'm sure the selection on the provisional axes didn't work. Who knows where I was clicking. . .
even if more elaborate is beautiful also the solcution of rescuers. the use of a surface is to be held in due account in case of messed up situations.

I attach the axieme file to someone with both active solutions in two different configurations.View attachment giunt snodato con vincoli.rarp.s. I am slowly going towards the cerebral decline and soon expect you to ask me to save me a file of 2017 nerlla version 2013. At that point, please stop me by closing my account:smile:

 

[teseo]

Sorry marcof but opening your set I don't find the two configurations.....

Thank you.