large drawings

[tanticapelli]

in all honesty please answer:

1) place that the great assemblies (20.000 parts) as well thought are slower by their nature;
2) place that the drawings of the great assemblies, being the slow drawing files by itself, are very slow;
3) place that to quote and make dimensional checks as well as to process drawings of worthy assemblies of this name is not possible to use speedpacks;

question:

in the end how many of you have the patience to stay in solidworks environment without carrying out a dwg export to conclude a drawing of a large set?

answers numerous s'il vous plait

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[MassiVonWeizen]

if the design has to be in solidworks you have patience and try to use as many tricks as possible (view without hidden lines or view in unshaded mode, selection filters, dynamic zoom. . . )
if the design does not matter in what format the dwg must be made is a possibility, but that it takes behind all the risks of the case ( always a view/section/detail, non-automatic bubble, scaled views that obligate to change the scale factor of the quotas....)

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

other thing to do for drawings is:
-disactivate moving components by dragging
-play with graphic quality
-disable dynamic visual highlighting (I only use it in extreme cases)
-disable selection through transparency
-disable both hidden edge selection entries

 

[tanticapelli]

other thing to do for drawings is:
-disactivate moving components by dragging
-play with graphic quality
-disable dynamic visual highlighting (I only use it in extreme cases)
-disable selection through transparency
-disable both hidden edge selection entries

You know, I've been treasured with your advice for a long time, and I have to say they're served.

However, I have loading/reconstruction times as well as nauseating shots (in the true sense of the word) of pan and zoom on the drawing really exaggerated.
and how you will imagine to digest the thing to those who pay is not always easy.
Now I'm looking for a way to test this big project on a high-performance machine and see how it can index this aspect. . .

We were better when we were worse?

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[teseo]

Hello everyone
slowing down on large assemblies is in my opinion a solid problem (and perhaps not only) will never solve it, at the most will worsen.
I passed in 2016 from old work station to new workstations always hpz640 ssd and xeon and quadrim4000 and according to me apart from the disk that is a chip the rest remained close to that....adesso in 2018 I can say that it is slower than before..... .
for me solid is slow him.

Hi.

 

[tanticapelli]

Hello everyone
slowing down on large assemblies is in my opinion a solid problem (and perhaps not only) will never solve it, at the most will worsen.
I passed in 2016 from old work station to new workstations always hpz640 ssd and xeon and quadrim4000 and according to me apart from the disk that is a chip the rest remained close to that....adesso in 2018 I can say that it is slower than before..... .
for me solid is slow him.

Hi.

Hey, thanks for the surgery.

but the new cpu you have is considered to be high performance? if you haven't noticed any kind of improvement? I find that the opening/reconstruction times are more than any other dependent on the...

Give me hope!

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[MassiVonWeizen]

you can do an analysis of the performance of the aid to see if there is any part that needs more time to rebuild others and see if it is possible to intervene in some way
to say a fool; When repeating in the parts may not be noticed, but if the geometric repetition is activated, where the performance is not needed, it may also be possible to find a tie.

 

[tanticapelli]

you can do an analysis of the performance of the aid to see if there is any part that needs more time to rebuild others and see if it is possible to intervene in some way
to say a fool; When repeating in the parts may not be noticed, but if the geometric repetition is activated, where the performance is not needed, it may also be possible to find a tie.

hi massive, performance analysis (reopening time, reconstruction and triangle graphics) was made for each part with assistance (me they taught it) and we intervened where possible. Clearly the parts that are elaborated by their nature cannot be simplified beyond a certain measure also because then the functional rendering on the design would be in an unacceptable way.
as to the repetitions I use the mild repetitions of components in the field together and in this type of function is not present the option "geographical repetition".

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[teseo]

Hey, thanks for the surgery.

but the new cpu you have is considered to be high performance? if you haven't noticed any kind of improvement? I find that the opening/reconstruction times are more than any other dependent on the...

Give me hope!

so many hairs

you the cpu is high performance or better it was a xeon e5-2620 2.1ghz
16 gb ram, but believe me I didn't see anything change from the old one, it's like I didn't change my car.......to you comments

I'm not saying that there's no way to make it go faster, I'm not a handle like you to use solid... but I say that if I change the car to equal settings I should see some change instead I don't see... at least I....

Hi.

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

I was not referring to the repetitions in the field together, but to the parts (I also wrote it).
Maybe you never needed to use them. It was so much to make an example. They seem stupid, but then they fall into the axioms and consequently on the drawings.
for test do a linear repetition (substantial not of a couple of instances) of a hole on a solid and do performance analysis with active geometric repetition and you will not see the difference.

 

[tanticapelli]

you the cpu is high performance or better it was a xeon e5-2620 2.1ghz
16 gb ram, but believe me I didn't see anything change from the old one, it's like I didn't change my car.......to you comments

I'm not saying that there's no way to make it go faster, I'm not a handle like you to use solid... but I say that if I change the car to equal settings I should see some change instead I don't see... at least I....

Hi.

I agree with you, even though I'm not a nuclear scientist.

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[MassiVonWeizen]

undoubtedly there are files (axioms, parts, drawings) that for how smooth and optimizing you can not make snelli to manage and touch you to take a dose of valiuim as soon as you start the day.
I by experience found the circumventable limits that I have listed, but that I am not the panacea to all evil of solidworks.
I do not have competences of processors, rams and similar so I do not allow myself to intervene in that area.
Moreover for the fact of doing always various jobs it is not even possible to compare a job done with a version regarding another

 

[tanticapelli]

I was not referring to the repetitions in the field together, but to the parts (I also wrote it).
Maybe you never needed to use them. It was so much to make an example. They seem stupid, but then they fall into the axioms and consequently on the drawings.
for test do a linear repetition (substantial not of a couple of instances) of a hole on a solid and do performance analysis with active geometric repetition and you will not see the difference.

but in truth I never use repetitions of functions, if I have to make ten holes I create them all under the same function of creation wizards and parameterize them within the sketch in various ways, depending on the needs. I practically never use equations, mostly some external reference that is practically essential especially for holes if I do not want to redesign them n thousand times whenever you go to make a dimensional variant to project even of only a few millimeters.
and external references block them only when I'm sure they are up to date properly. . .
On the other hand, I also have another large set on which I had worked of which I had subsituated all the components configured with identical components but with the only default config but the drawing together was a turnkey the same.. .

I don't understand, but does it not happen to the others that the superiors do pressure because of these "dilated" timings?

thanks to all in any case

 

[teseo]

Well I work alone in the technical office so they have to settle. ......

 

[tanticapelli]

Well I work alone in the technical office so they have to settle. ......

I don't work alone in the technical office but I'm the only one using solidworks so. . .

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

But does it not happen to the others that the superiors press because of these "dilated" timings?

but it is not enough to show him that he is a few minutes to open the table, tens of seconds to move a view, that every now and then he plantes because it updates you do not know why the drawing... ?

 

[meccanicamg]

I'm the head of the technical office and his to me that my colleagues happen... it is also to think about the harvests in the carpentry table with too many quotas and indications. realize that we have workstation z4 new and solidworks 2018 but you can't do better.... some rescue and export work also goes on 30 minutes on the z400 workstations of the previous year while 16 minutes on the z4.

 

[tanticapelli]

I am the cap

I'm the head of the technical office and his to me that my colleagues happen... it is also to think about the harvests in the carpentry table with too many quotas and indications. realize that we have workstation z4 new and solidworks 2018 but you can't do better.... some rescue and export work also goes on 30 minutes on the z400 workstations of the previous year while 16 minutes on the z4.

mercy!

 

[tanticapelli]

Hello everyone

I was wondering if someone had already had the chance to test solidworks 2019 which seems to have the ability to exploit multicore processors.

It would be nice to launch a notorious design of a project to you known as "problematic" and see the effect that it does I too am not you.

I don't know if I explained.

thanks to all

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[tanticapelli]

I'm the head of the technical office and his to me that my colleagues happen... it is also to think about the harvests in the carpentry table with too many quotas and indications. realize that we have workstation z4 new and solidworks 2018 but you can't do better.... some rescue and export work also goes on 30 minutes on the z400 workstations of the previous year while 16 minutes on the z4.

Hi.
Since you mentioned the carpentry that is just my sector, I wonder how you manage a board of a large set (with more views and sections, quotations, colors, annotations and bubbles that is well finished enough to be presentable once printed on plotter in a0) which has at best 15 minutes as opening time and from there on begin pains.. .

with zoom and pan goes to snaps and when quoti is slow and often happens to have difficulty selection of edges etc etc.

and that you can't think of drawing some eyes!

with these presupposes to bring to the end a table of certain dimensions shatters madness.

and feel the tricks of those who work with autocad is just even more irritating.