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[marcok625]

we say that at the installation there are three boys equipped with laptop and maxischermo where they display the pdf and pvz formats (3d) but currently our editor is blocked because it was configured with the c...or initially, in fact in addition to installing parts link we are providing to arrange also the editor.
so to date the various formats are passed by the technical office with waste of time. the pdf and dwg of the tables are attached to the wtpart in windchill, while the creation of the pvz is made on request.
we don't have internal workshop and anyway I think that anyone at least something does do out, and passing neutral designs to the various suppliers is another problem, but above all keep aligned the versions of these designs. a logic rigor also to suppliers should give access to windchill (clearly with the due policies). but it is very complicated for various reasons.

 

[D4n13l]

we say that at the installation there are three boys equipped with laptop and maxischermo where they display the pdf and pvz formats (3d) but currently our editor is blocked because it was configured with the c...or initially, in fact in addition to installing parts link we are providing to arrange also the editor.
so to date the various formats are passed by the technical office with waste of time. the pdf and dwg of the tables are attached to the wtpart in windchill, while the creation of the pvz is made on request.
we don't have internal workshop and anyway I think that anyone at least something does do out, and passing neutral designs to the various suppliers is another problem, but above all keep aligned the versions of these designs. a logic rigor also to suppliers should give access to windchill (clearly with the due policies). but it is very complicated for various reasons.

here I correct you, where I worked before we used document with inventor (system according to me much easier than creo+windchill) they created codes directly in document, then they created drawings and puts in tables with inventor and once made the approval of the axieme of the machine or of the individual components through document, they created automatically the files in pdf dxf and stp, the fantastic thing was that in the moment
it was then taken the axieme and put in print queue (it is called so) and automatically generated an email with all files in pdf etc of the various components to send to the various suppliers (which really comfortable).
I used this extra thing to create the collectors to give in the workshop for the fittings and I printed all the drawings of one together at once.
I want windchill to do the same thing, but I don't know it's possible.
I hope I've been clear enough I don't know if I explained well.

 

[marcok625]

with document you were well organized. and the same thing you can get with good windchill management. the real problem, that maybe I'm not able to make you understand is once your designs have come out of windchill or document, and the supplier has them in hand, and you realize you have to make a change what you do?
That's the real problem. the fact that you have lost the advantage of having everything inside the plm and you no longer have what they have or do not have suppliers, you have to call them and warn them that the x and y drawings are no longer valid and must expect updates.
what you would like to have with windchill is feasible, but it takes a lot of work to organize and create all the workflows you need and everything. once done this then maintenance is quite simple if the basics are good.
there are other plms, which have modules that allow the exchange of drawings or documents to suppliers and customers so they have everything tracked and recoverable, so always know what is doing that supplier. and everything is aligned to the 3ds always.

I didn't get to see documents, and I don't know if it's easy or complicated like windchill running all the flow to get to a solution you described. That really seems like a good result.
However, you should unleash the technical office from sending the files to the suppliers, that you should handle the management, which should be connected to the plm, and the collection and sending of the documents you should be able to do from the management. all feasible, through bees among the various software.

 

[D4n13l]

with document you were well organized. and the same thing you can get with good windchill management. the real problem, that maybe I'm not able to make you understand is once your designs have come out of windchill or document, and the supplier has them in hand, and you realize you have to make a change what you do?
That's the real problem. the fact that you have lost the advantage of having everything inside the plm and you no longer have what they have or do not have suppliers, you have to call them and warn them that the x and y drawings are no longer valid and must expect updates.
what you would like to have with windchill is feasible, but it takes a lot of work to organize and create all the workflows you need and everything. once done this then maintenance is quite simple if the basics are good.
there are other plms, which have modules that allow the exchange of drawings or documents to suppliers and customers so they have everything tracked and recoverable, so always know what is doing that supplier. and everything is aligned to the 3ds always.

I didn't get to see documents, and I don't know if it's easy or complicated like windchill running all the flow to get to a solution you described. That really seems like a good result.
However, you should unleash the technical office from sending the files to the suppliers, that you should handle the management, which should be connected to the plm, and the collection and sending of the documents you should be able to do from the management. all feasible, through bees among the various software.

I think there are few software that manage this thing if no one (I don't know it and I don't know it), in that case we need to call the supplier and succeed in stopping it in time if he hasn't produced anything yet, other solutions I don't know if you know them well come.
document is very simple as a program I put my hands on it too that I am not a programmer therefore already from them you understand the difference between document and windchill.. .
ptc products are good but too complicated according to me.
the speech of sending the files to the suppliers was arranged the purchasing office that had documented in version lite and we did not manage the thing, I would say great.
At the end, however, no one has answered me about how you manage pdf designs in your companies with windchill.

 

[marcok625]

for the management of pdf, dwg and step, we currently do so.
Once the table is finished and check-in is done, manually pdf and table dwg is generated, then the step is saved from the 3d. then always by hand they attach themselves as new documents related to the wtpart. so doing when I have to download all designs for suppliers from the structure of a machine I do export and the system creates a folder with all formats that the wtparts have attached. to give to the suppliers, the latter part is made by the purchasing office.
while having the editor we are reduced to work so because it has never been configured with criterion. in these days, we are evaluating with a valid consultant how to put the editor in place to free us from all this round.
Unfortunately we are noticing that it will take a lot of space to store all the files so published.

 

[D4n13l]

for the management of pdf, dwg and step, we currently do so.
Once the table is finished and check-in is done, manually pdf and table dwg is generated, then the step is saved from the 3d. then always by hand they attach themselves as new documents related to the wtpart. so doing when I have to download all designs for suppliers from the structure of a machine I do export and the system creates a folder with all formats that the wtparts have attached. to give to the suppliers, the latter part is made by the purchasing office.
while having the editor we are reduced to work so because it has never been configured with criterion. in these days, we are evaluating with a valid consultant how to put the editor in place to free us from all this round.
Unfortunately we are noticing that it will take a lot of space to store all the files so published.

If I didn't understand badly when those of the ptc came here, the pdf step files etc. can go automatically connected to the wtpart that serves for the distinct, precisely to automate, but I'm not 100% sure, since we're still in a 1st phase, I'll have to ask for clarifications about this thing.
the publisher you have is integrated with windchill?

 

[marcok625]

you understand correctly.
the editor is nothing but an additional server (virtual machine that does as a server) with another cad installed with respective license if it publishes day, or if it publishes at night will use a fleeting available license. the whole thing is windchill. It is usually the consultant that according to your needs proposes you to adopt the editor and configure it for your needs.
but are you followed directly by ptc italia?

 

[320i S]

here I correct you, where I worked before we used document with inventor (system according to me much easier than creo+windchill) they created codes directly in document, then they created drawings and puts in tables with inventor and once made the approval of the axieme of the machine or of the individual components through document, they created automatically the files in pdf dxf and stp, the fantastic thing was that in the moment
it was then taken the axieme and put in print queue (it is called so) and automatically generated an email with all files in pdf etc of the various components to send to the various suppliers (which really comfortable).
I used this extra thing to create the collectors to give in the workshop for the fittings and I printed all the drawings of one together at once.
I want windchill to do the same thing, but I don't know it's possible.
I hope I've been clear enough I don't know if I explained well.

These are very simple rules that all pdms do.
we have the same system yours, but it is the purchasing office to manage files to suppliers (for some codes, specific steps are provided and not only pdf).

 

[D4n13l]

you understand correctly.
the editor is nothing but an additional server (virtual machine that does as a server) with another cad installed with respective license if it publishes day, or if it publishes at night will use a fleeting available license. the whole thing is windchill. It is usually the consultant that according to your needs proposes you to adopt the editor and configure it for your needs.
but are you followed directly by ptc italia?

excuse but does not make instant publication of files once approved?

 

[D4n13l]

These are very simple rules that all pdms do.
we have the same system yours, but it is the purchasing office to manage files to suppliers (for some codes, specific steps are provided and not only pdf).

same thing where I was before he ran the office buying the files to send to the various suppliers, as it is right.

 

[D4n13l]

you understand correctly.
the editor is nothing but an additional server (virtual machine that does as a server) with another cad installed with respective license if it publishes day, or if it publishes at night will use a fleeting available license. the whole thing is windchill. It is usually the consultant that according to your needs proposes you to adopt the editor and configure it for your needs.
but are you followed directly by ptc italia?

no marco we are not followed directly by ptc italia

 

[marcok625]

excuse but does not make instant publication of files once approved?

you do it only if at the installation of windchill add the editor otherwise not. with windchill there is little by default, but there are many beautiful moduletti to buy aside to make things turn as they should.

 

[D4n13l]

you do it only if at the installation of windchill add the editor otherwise not. with windchill there is little by default, but there are many beautiful moduletti to buy aside to make things turn as they should.

We'll see how it'll still be, we're deciding on the code... until it is decided that the programmers do not know how to move.. .

 

[marcok625]

We'll see how it'll still be, we're deciding on the code... until it is decided that the programmers do not know how to move

Okay, once you've decided, let us know it's an interesting topic.