configurations and list of materials on table

[d-prom]

Good evening, everyone.
I have a problem recently: I happen to use commercial parts that design with various configurations (e.g., or with sizes that vary to fit the different sizes of the quarries). only today I happened to use twice the same part in a set in different configurations, and at the time to make the list materials here the surprise: instead of finding that component in quantity 2, I find it indicated twice in two consecutive rows in quantity 1. if I go on the properties of the distinct materials to set "show all configurations of the same part as the only element" group me in one line all the parts obtained from toolbox belonging to the same "family": to understand, if I have 20 rows indicating 20 brown screws of 20 different sizes, I find a single line indicating a brown screw of the measurement of any of the 20 preceding and indicating a quantity that is the sum of the 20 previous quantities, which is equally antipathic (if not worse). someone has a few tips to give me (that is not to manually delete a line and change the text of the amount in the other, a very rough escamotage that is exactly what I would like to avoid).
Thank you all in advance.

 

[d-prom]

No one who can give me a tip?

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

I happen to use the same part twice in a set in different configurations

did not understand if the part has the same configuration and is inserted in a set (under together then?) with different configurations
or the same part has two different configurations for sex together

you do not know how the distinct is managed: only leave, with return.. .
you do not know how the aid is managed or where the parts are inserted: a single set, together more sub-assisted....

 

[d-prom]

did not understand if the part has the same configuration and is inserted in a set (under together then?) with different configurations
or the same part has two different configurations for sex together

you do not know how the distinct is managed: only leave, with return.. .
you do not know how the aid is managed or where the parts are inserted: a single set, together more sub-assisted....

It is a part (not a set) that can have different configurations. before I had never been able to insert it twice in a set twice in different configurations. In the specific case we speak of an or that, as we all know, has a section that changes to the change of the shape of the quarry that hosts it. I designed the various or giving different configurations that match the various shapes and sizes of the quarries: grip on piston, hold on stem, front seal, etc.
a few days ago I happened, for the first time, to have the same or used twice in a set, one with quarry on cylindrical surface and one for front seal on a cover: had, in the list of parts instead of having, as it was logical to expect, a line with the code of the or and quantity 2 I found two consecutive lines indicating the same or (the same code) with the amount of 1 each.
I tried to go on the properties of the distinct materials to set "show all the configurations of the same part as the only element", and the result was that yes, grouped me the two or in a single line, but also grouped all the bolts: if before I had a dozen brugola screws loaded by the toolbox of as many different sizes, after there was only one line indicating a brugola screw, with code and description of any of the existing screws and quantity that was the sum of all the quantities that were there before.
I want to have a list of well done parts because from that I automatically echo the distinct base.
someone will ask me why I do not use the or present in the toolbox: even if I did the problem there would be anyway, because I should enter and create every time an or with the measures I need, and the toolbox does not allow me to give the same code to two different parts.

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

I would really ask you what it means to make an or, which is a commercial component and adapts to where you insert it, with confidences for every kind of quarry. but each one manages things in his own way
However at the end you understand that you have a specific or that is inserted with two different configurations in a set. so the first hypothesis I had made. You know why I asked you that question? because the quoted phrase is readable in both ways.
therefore it is correct that the distinct shows two distinct rows, because for solid those are two different parts and it is not at all logical that the groupings in one, otherwise the toolbox screws or those who make their own components unified with configurations (dadi, key, seeger...) would always see and only one line.

This is the base. If I have time I take a look at how to handle this

 

[d-prom]

[Bleep]
therefore it is correct that the distinct shows two distinct rows, because for solid those are two different parts and it is not at all logical that the groupings in one, otherwise the toolbox screws or those who make their own components unified with configurations (dadi, key, seeger...) would always see and only one line.
[Bleep]
This is the base. If I have time I take a look at how to handle this

I disagree. between or and vines there is a substantial difference: If a screw changes the diameter or length or type of screw (a caterpillar rather than hexagonal head, etc.) or all three things become a different particular, and it is therefore right to take another identification code that allows to distinguish them so that the purchasing office buys me the right screws.
the same or (see catalog angst&pfister, for example) even if it is housed in caves of different shapes and sizes (I in the past have made even a frontal seal with an oval quarry instead of circular...), but it is always the same or: the identification of the producer is always the same, and so the starting measures (e.g.: or 6200 - 50,16x5,34); So the man in the shop has to buy me just two or two of that kind, not two or different.
In my case it was the section of a spindle of a tool machine, where there were several or (at least half a dozen) of which two equal, but used in different quarries: one in "mask" seal as in the top right design of the first page of the annex, and one in frontal seal as in the top left design of the second page. It is always the same piece, and therefore must have the same code, even if it takes different forms.
thanks in any case for the interest.

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

if at a screw change the diameter or length or type of screw (brow rather than hexagonal head, etc.) or all three things become a different particular

if you change type yes, if you change length no.forse toolbox creates a new one every time, I do not remember, but I have always used only one screw by type with inside the configurations of the various sizes

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

However if when you say that you can't view configurations as a single part because the screws wouldn't be differentiated, you're saying that every configuration is a different part; Why should this not be worth for the or?
solid reasons by name part and configuration name, it doesn't give a damn if the component in configurations something completely different or always the same object placed in different angles.
Does it make sense that you do for the same commercial identification the configurations for where it is housed?

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

or you could specify in the separate to group the configurations with the same name as the only element

 

[d-prom]

However if when you say that you can't view configurations as a single part because the screws wouldn't be differentiated, you're saying that every configuration is a different part; Why should this not be worth for the or?
solid reasons by name part and configuration name, it doesn't give a damn if the component in configurations something completely different or always the same object placed in different angles.
Does it make sense that you do for the same commercial identification the configurations for where it is housed?

I'll try to explain myself better.
If I need a iso brown screw 4762 m8x40 I will have to go to the hardware store and buy a m8x40. I can't put on a m8x70 because it wouldn't fit. therefore it is in this case of two different objects, not interchangeable, which will have different codes, different positions in stock, probably different costs, etc.
If I need two or 6400 (101x5,34) to be used in two different quarries, the two or, since they are rubber, will adapt to the different shape of the quarries. but the two that I give him the same. they will have the same code, the same identifier of the builder, the same place in stock, the same cost, etc. if I disassemble them from the car of which they are part and reassemble them inverted nothing, because it is always the same object.

 

[d-prom]

or you could specify in the separate to group the configurations with the same name as the only element

this can be a good suggestion. I'll try and let you know.

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

you didn't realize that solid reasoning for file names and configurations, not for warehouse or type.
if your two screws come from the same part file, which contains 2 configurations, for solid is the same thing as the or that has 2 configurations for the same code. .
different configuration=position in different distinct (except to use the option of post #9)