overmetal in the table

[Lorenzo PigFolyd]

Good evening to all,

I would like to ask for an advice inherent to overmetal on creo and how you handle it.
I would need:
Once the finished model is finished, to open a new file part and insert the model previously concluded as a reference in such a way as to create excess material with its relative sforms and when I go to insert into the table the dissected model I find the section of the finished model with the section of the overmetal to be eliminated.

If someone has a correct procedure, I would be very grateful if he could describe the procedures he uses to get to the final result I need.

Thank you very much

 

[ceschi1959]

Good evening to all,

I would like to ask for an advice inherent to overmetal on creo and how you handle it.
I would need:
Once the finished model is finished, to open a new file part and insert the model previously concluded as a reference in such a way as to create excess material with its relative sforms and when I go to insert into the table the dissected model I find the section of the finished model with the section of the overmetal to be eliminated.

If someone has a correct procedure, I would be very grateful if he could describe the procedures he uses to get to the final result I need.

Thank you very much

I quote your post not to give you an answer but to ask you a question: I see you use nx and sw, how do you handle overmetals with nx?
hello and thanks for the possible answer.

 

[Lorenzo PigFolyd]

I quote your post not to give you an answer but to ask you a question: I see you use nx and sw, how do you handle overmetals with nx?
hello and thanks for the possible answer.

Hello, for the overmetal I used solidedge.
I practically managed flanges and valve bodies.
finished the model, I crave a part file with the finite model of reference (or only visible in transparence) from which I pulled on the model with the excess material.
later inside a set I entered the crude and the finished and the sw allowed me to choose what to sample or not from the section in such a way as to sample only the crude.
In this way in the table I was seen with the finished dissected but not sampled and the crude dissected and sampled in such a way that I could quota the sforms and the excess material.

same procedure for carrying seats.

an example attached

Here, the same result I would like to have on creo

I have never done so as to ensure that the current company does not deny such processing, but I think the procedure is similar if not the same

 

[ceschi1959]

Hello, for the overmetal I used solidedge.
I practically managed flanges and valve bodies.
finished the model, I crave a part file with the finite model of reference (or only visible in transparence) from which I pulled on the model with the excess material.
later inside a set I entered the crude and the finished and the sw allowed me to choose what to sample or not from the section in such a way as to sample only the crude.
In this way in the table I was seen with the finished dissected but not sampled and the crude dissected and sampled in such a way that I could quota the sforms and the excess material.

same procedure for carrying seats.

an example attached

Here, the same result I would like to have on creo

I have never done so as to ensure that the current company does not deny such processing, but I think the procedure is similar if not the same

Thanks anyway for the answer, I was interested to know how it was managed in nx.
with nx you can do so but it is not the procedure that I would adopt, from nx I would start (part) with the crude and then I do the processing, I have two separate files and I can do what I want, in a quoto the crude (which then the quality controls) and in the other quoto the finite.
If two or more of them came out of a crude, how would you do that?
with my method i.e. raw > finished I can do it quietly.

Hi.

 

[Lorenzo PigFolyd]

Thanks anyway for the answer, I was interested to know how it was managed in nx.
with nx you can do so but it is not the procedure that I would adopt, from nx I would start (part) with the crude and then I do the processing, I have two separate files and I can do what I want, in a quoto the crude (which then the quality controls) and in the other quoto the finite.
If two or more of them came out of a crude, how would you do that?
with my method i.e. raw > finished I can do it quietly.

Hi.

practically this problem did not arise as the company for each finished component codified the crude with the same code plus an extension to the code that identified that component.

so each finished had / has its own greed owner

 

[320i S]

I with creo, do the raw part (with the overmetal then), then insert it into an empty set and the removal work I do them, idem with solidworks to manage the bom with the pdm we have.
in solidworks there would be the "part in the part" for these applications, but the management of the bom outside the solidworks environment, is a little problematic.

 

[320i S]

practically this problem did not arise as the company for each finished component codified the crude with the same code plus an extension to the code that identified that component.

so each finished had / has its own greed owner

If the management of the programming changes, I do not see why it has to change the modus operandi of the ut to "running behind", the distinct techniques and the fictitious assemblies, serve to combine the needs of ut with the productive ones of the programming.
even because, if the programming decides to return to the previous way, the ut must update the database, then costs and time.

 

[AndreaTerzi]

Good morning, usually you work starting from the rough and then you get the finished. this does not take away that it is possible to do the opposite if it is the working mode of the company (at the design level). use the crude as a base allows you to get more finished using the same base. That said, I would do the finish, then open the crude and with an ext copy geom I enter into the finished. you can add then sforms and overmetals as one wants. to have the section instead you have to make a set where you assemble overlap the rough and the finished.