biz
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formally it is correct to quote in this way a pocket, since it will be carried out of millet, considering that I am not interested in the precise measures of the same?
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MassiVonWeizen
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only if you are sure that it will always run from fresa (then there goes roughness) and the radius from 5 is taxive, so consequently obligations to the use of the cut from 10
However or quoti all in parallel or you also put the strap between the two pockets
However or quoti all in parallel or you also put the strap between the two pockets
TECNOMODEL
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I would avoid it, why oblige you to make calculations in case it is performed on a working center with different ø mill?formally it is correct to quote in this way a pocket, since it will be carried out of millet, considering that I am not interested in the precise measures of the same?View attachment 64812
in brackets, it would always be preferable to use a lesser r cutter by following the profile to avoid abnormal efforts at the radius, flexions, vibrations etc.
biz
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the same speech applies to the vice versa, that is, quotating it in the "traditional" way.I would avoid it, why oblige you to make calculations in case it is performed on a working center with different ø mill?
biz
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Guy a 7?in brackets, it would always be preferable to use a lesser r cutter by following the profile to avoid abnormal efforts at the radius, flexions, vibrations etc.
MassiVonWeizen
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I would say no because by listing the profile of the pocket, instead of the centers, any milled diameter uses the compensation with the program while listing the centers if you use a milling diameter different from 10 you can not use the uterus compsation and you must first subtract the radius to get the profile size.the same speech applies to the vice versa, that is, quotating it in the "traditional" way.
for years I haven't compared with the operation on machine tools and so I go a little bit by memory and deduction; Could be that she just wrote a cow
biz
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You're right, the g code is what I said. depends on whether you use g40 or 41/42.I would say no because by listing the profile of the pocket, instead of the centers, any milled diameter uses the compensation with the program while listing the centers if you use a milling diameter different from 10 you can not use the uterus compsation and you must first subtract the radius to get the profile size.
for years I haven't compared with the operation on machine tools and so I go a little bit by memory and deduction; Could be that she just wrote a cow
biz
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with the sunshades typically works like that, so I thought it would be comfortable with the pockets too.
TECNOMODEL
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the same speech applies to the vice versa, that is, quotating it in the "traditional" way.
I agree with what has been said @massivonweizen.I would say no because by listing the profile of the pocket, instead of the centers, any milled diameter uses the compensation with the program while listing the centers if you use a milling diameter different from 10 you can not use the uterus compsation and you must first subtract the radius to get the profile size.
for years I haven't compared with the operation on machine tools and so I go a little bit by memory and deduction; Could be that she just wrote a cow
In addition many machines have a set of macros to be able to realize pockets, profiles etc from machine edge, insert the size and radius, the tool you intend to use and the software calculates the working strategy.
TECNOMODEL
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maybe a more common 8, or a 6.Guy a 7?
biz
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but from this point of view the workshop is well supplied. Anyway thank you guys for your considerations.maybe a more common 8, or a 6.
MassiVonWeizen
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but you're talking
Are you talking about an internal processing or a regular supplier?but from this point of view the workshop is well supplied. Anyway thank you guys for your considerations.
biz
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in this case internal processing. However, the same applies to third parties to whom we address ourselves.but you're talking
Are you talking about an internal processing or a regular supplier?
MassiVonWeizen
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if it is for internal processing does not make sense to invent quotation methods and I suggest to ask who will carry out the processing. having an internal workshop is a fortune for a designer/designer because it allows to approach situations going beyond the theoretical side.in this case internal processing. However, the same applies to third parties to whom we address ourselves.
biz
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in fact my request is: "formally is correct to quote in this way a pocket, since it will be carried out of fresa, considering that I am not interested in the precise measures of the same?" just to receive opinions also from designers/projectors outside my usual circle.if it is for internal processing does not make sense to invent quotation methods and I suggest to ask who will carry out the processing. having an internal workshop is a fortune for a designer/designer because it allows to approach situations going beyond the theoretical side.
TECNOMODEL
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if it is for internal processing does not make sense to invent quotation methods and I suggest to ask who will carry out the processing. having an internal workshop is a fortune for a designer/designer because it allows to approach situations going beyond the theoretical side.
Just consider the needs of your workshop, however, you have to think that companies can go to change strategies for various reasons.in fact my request is: "formally is correct to quote in this way a pocket, since it will be carried out of fresa, considering that I am not interested in the precise measures of the same?" just to receive opinions also from designers/projectors outside my usual circle.
If I make a "special" design to facilitate my workshop I must then remind myself and change it the day when this detail will be outsourced.
biz
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so my question becomes: but if with the sunbeds it is allowed to quote as in the above way, why should I not do it with a pocket? for example why @tecnomodel Are there macros that facilitate work? other reasons? Agreed.it could be, but one could object, for example, that if it goes of g code and, always for example, cancels the compensation, then maybe I should quote as represented in post 1. But this is another discussion. I repeat, I would like to know whether formally the way to quote is correct or if it is completely wrong, even for the following reason:
Just consider the needs of your workshop, however, you have to think that companies can go to change strategies for various reasons.
If I make a "special" design to facilitate my workshop I must then remind myself and change it the day when this detail will be outsourced.
MassiVonWeizen
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as I wrote at the beginning if you quoti with interasse and ray are implicitly saying that for you are important those quotas and if you use a 15-brake you are wrong and if you use a 6-piece you have to make an interpolation.
Usually the profile is quoted because this is the size that interests and also because it could be obtained from laser cutting or oxide, if not completely at least a substantial portion (leaving 5mm of overmetal) to end with a undefined radius cut
Usually the profile is quoted because this is the size that interests and also because it could be obtained from laser cutting or oxide, if not completely at least a substantial portion (leaving 5mm of overmetal) to end with a undefined radius cut
TECNOMODEL
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I believe that a unique correct way does not exist, as always commands the function of the particular, where it is assembled etc.so my question becomes: but if with the sunbeds it is allowed to quote as in the above way, why should I not do it with a pocket? for example why @tecnomodel Are there macros that facilitate work? other reasons? Agreed.it could be, but one could object, for example, that if it goes of g code and, always for example, cancels the compensation, then maybe I should quote as represented in post 1. But this is another discussion. I repeat, I would like to know whether formally the way to quote is correct or if it is completely wrong, even for the following reason:
In essence, in order to answer your question, it is not a mistake to quote in that way, personally but never adopt a similar system.
the quotation of the registered offices is substantially different, the length is related to the axis of the quarry, which has tolerated width.
biz
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always depends on how you work, whether you use the compensation or not. I don't see big limits from this point of view.as I wrote at the beginning if you quoti with interasse and ray are implicitly saying that for you are important those quotas and if you use a 15-brake you are wrong and if you use a 6-piece you have to make an interpolation.
Usually the profile is quoted because this is the size that interests and also because it could be obtained from laser cutting or oxide, if not completely at least a substantial portion (leaving 5mm of overmetal) to end with a undefined radius cut
true.conceptually it is the same thing though.the quotation of the registered offices is substantially different, the length is related to the axis of the quarry, which has tolerated width.