save in step files

[emanuele grasso]

Bye to all,
There is, as for the individual sheets of a drawing, the possibility to save the individual steps of a product instead of a single product.stp ?

 

[gianni55]

menu- tools-options-general-compatibility-step-export

choose ap214 protocol

instead of assembling, check out external references to step

obviously saves you in step also the product you need to put in the right position the components

Let me know.

 

[emanuele grasso]

Thank you..it works
already that there are I ask you what is the difference between ap214 and 242ed1 (which is what I had before)
I still get what I want
Thank you.

 

[gianni55]

are evolutions of the step, the 203 is the basic one, the 214 used in the automotive also export the colors the 242 I do not have but I imagine carry something extra, but it is to see if the user who receives the law.

 

[emanuele grasso]

I get it. Thank you very much

 

[emanuele grasso]

Hi. But as for the save of the product + every single part contained in that product ? because I have a cat file containing different products and different parts and I would like to, in a folder that I create myself, save everything individually
I don't want to transfer all files from one folder to another (copy and paste) because I have many useless files that I don't need
Thank you.

 

[gianni55]

in the case of copies of products it is preferable to use: menu/file/invite to/directory, in that way catia will copy all the files (products and parts) actually used, eliminating all the links with the original positions, thus making them independent.
This is how to fully and functionally export your work to the customer or colleague or to place order in your work if you have many different type files in the same folder.

 

[emanuele grasso]

Thank you. .
Monday I try and let you know

 

[emanuele grasso]

in the case of copies of products it is preferable to use: menu/file/invite to/directory, in that way catia will copy all the files (products and parts) actually used, eliminating all the links with the original positions, thus making them independent.
This is how to fully and functionally export your work to the customer or colleague or to place order in your work if you have many different type files in the same folder.

but in this way make the parts independent only in position but not in geometry.. confirm?

 

[gianni55]

but in this way make the parts independent only in position but not in geometry.. confirm?

I don't understand what you mean...

 

[emanuele grasso]

product1 contains part1 and part2 and is saved in folder1..This product1 sends it to folder2 (the fact cup) and if I change part1 (geometria, quotas, shape etc) contained in folder2 also modifies that contained in folder1

 

[Saso93]

in the case of copies of products it is preferable to use: menu/file/invite to/directory, in that way catia will copy all the files (products and parts) actually used, eliminating all the links with the original positions, thus making them independent.
This is how to fully and functionally export your work to the customer or colleague or to place order in your work if you have many different type files in the same folder.

hi gianni55, the other option, which I use at work, would order the tree and make an export for supplier of the product father in design mode. I would like to ask you: what advantages does the method mentioned above have with respect to an export for supplier? i.e. if I open a single part is properly inspected or loses the link?


Thank you.

 

[gianni55]

absolutely not, the sending to: is an export that interrupts all ties, you do to send the product (clean) to a customer or a supplier, or to reorder your job if you have created parts and/or products that you then have an abortion

and avoid using the copy and paste, in caia there is the saving management that allows you to save the files in the folders you choose.

having equal files in different folders is the best way to make pastries.

But what exactly do you want to do?

 

[Saso93]

Thank you. I just wanted to understand the function of this 'send to', maybe tomorrow at work I do something.

However I always use rescue management if I work the local, while when I use plm I use the export for supplier because it correlates/extracts other info that I would not have if I used rescue management.

Thank you.

 

[gianni55]

hi gianni55, the other option, which I use at work, would order the tree and make an export for supplier of the product father in design mode. I would like to ask you: what advantages does the method mentioned above have with respect to an export for supplier? i.e. if I open a single part is properly inspected or loses the link?


Thank you.

the methods I mentioned “send to” and “saving management” are those I used for the common management of files in the absence of a pdm. if you use export for supplier you probably use teamcenter or a pdm for which you are at a higher level of management

 

[gianni55]

Thank you. I just wanted to understand the function of this 'send to', maybe tomorrow at work I do something.

However I always use rescue management if I work the local, while when I use plm I use the export for supplier because it correlates/extracts other info that I would not have if I used rescue management.

Thank you.

plm... okay so you're on the platform! continuous with export for supplier

 

[emanuele grasso]

absolutely not, the sending to: is an export that interrupts all ties, you do to send the product (clean) to a customer or a supplier, or to reorder your job if you have created parts and/or products that you then have an abortion

and avoid using the copy and paste, in caia there is the saving management that allows you to save the files in the folders you choose.

having equal files in different folders is the best way to make pastries.

But what exactly do you want to do?

I apologize if I've been sensible these days. .
I tell you what I should do: we make welding islands, assembly machines components and so on
in all our machines we always have a product that either is the structure in profiles or is the electro-welded that keeps everything (robots, pictures, motor etc.).I want to make so that every time I make a machine from zero cup and neck (interrupting the links both of position and geometry what I told you the other day) so I can quickly change depth height and width without having to remake all the structure from zero
I tried with the new to and get what I want.. the problem that then saves my parts with a _1 at the end and is a slam rename the files.
Monday I tried what you recommended (send to ) but it keeps me links in geometry and so if I change a part in the new folder I also change it in the old
I can't figure out where I'm wrong. .
Thank you.

 

[gianni55]

I apologize if I've been sensible these days. .
I tell you what I should do: we make welding islands, assembly machines components and so on
in all our machines we always have a product that either is the structure in profiles or is the electro-welded that keeps everything (robots, pictures, motor etc.).I want to make so that every time I make a machine from zero cup and neck (interrupting the links both of position and geometry what I told you the other day) so I can quickly change depth height and width without having to remake all the structure from zero
I tried with the new to and get what I want.. the problem that then saves my parts with a _1 at the end and is a slam rename the files.
Monday I tried what you recommended (send to ) but it keeps me links in geometry and so if I change a part in the new folder I also change it in the old
I can't figure out where I'm wrong. .
Thank you.

attention that the speech is complicated. . .

it is not possible that by sending to if you change a part in the new folder also changes in the old! open rescue management and check folder bets. . .

certain things happen if you do not master the saves, or if you do not consider that catia keeps in memory the last loading for which it is to be closed and restarted every time you work under conditions that can create "cross" in the files, type equal names in different folders.

I try to give you some suggestions, maybe for you are obvious things, but I would do so:

we start by saying that if a product or part is modified, it must have always a different name, so the product (to make an example) "isola_di_saldatura_standard.catproduct" when modified, must change name to "isola_di_saldatura_assa.catproduct" and the new electrosald that will be a part, when it is modified it must change name (to make an example I put him some hypothetical maximum size) from "electrosaldata_standard_1000x500x300.catpart, while all other parts that are not modified but they rest from the electrosald never have to change their name and the ideal would be to take them from a common library.
so at the beginning of work, I create the new electro-welded part_1000x500x300.catpart with a new da, setting the size I need and the correct name, and then in the product I replace the standard electro-welded_standard with the new one, in this way all other unmodified and bound parts should adapt to the new measures. Obviously the constraints must be put on public entities so that they are not lost.

at that point since the product has changed because it contains the modified electrowelded, you save it with the new name, better it would export everything to a dedicated folder.

Let me know.

 

[emanuele grasso]

I assure you that by sending me no independent components.
I closed catia, renamed the new product and reopened catia as you advised me.. I opened the two files and it continues to be the same problem
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[gianni55]

I assure you that by sending me no independent components.
I closed catia, renamed the new product and reopened catia as you advised me.. I opened the two files and it continues to be the same problem
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I should be there with you to understand where you are wrong... it is impossible that you send it to create files, send them to another folder and when you change the originals magically change those too!

you tell me that you closed catia, renamed the new product and reopened catia, but to rename the new product you have to do it as rescue management then catia has to be opened! so if you did it from windows you did not do as I recommended.

if you use rescue management you will see exactly the open files and in which folder are open.

If you can, try opening the product that gives you problems and sends the save management screen so we see the files to which folders point.

do some tests, open cathegue, open the product, make a save management screen then send it to: new folder, the system tells you that it saved the files in the new folder, close catheia, reopen catheia and open files, enter the new folder and open the product at that point you make a new save management screen, all files will have to point only to the new folder.