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Robi. ita

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Good morning, I'm a new member and I wanted to give you my doubt.
I came across a site that sells used software, I am interested in autocad lt, the site is macrosoft store, with headquarters in romania; I have seen that they sell licenses for annual rent at really very low prices also of licenses of the past years and I have asked myself (I ask also to you): how can you sell used licenses of annual rent? I thought only autodesk could sell this kind of license. then the question is this: Do you know this type of business and know this site? At first glance it would seem serious, but it leaves me doubt the kind of proposal they make. I was actually looking for old licenses, like e.g. autocad lt 2013, I don't care to have the latest update, instead I found these other much more interesting sales proposals (but it took my doubt). I put the link and thank you for the answer.
roberto
 
I don't know all used software license vendors and I don't know how reliable "macrosoft store" can be, but in eu it is legal to sell used software licenses.
"on 3 July 2012, the European Court of Justice issued a judgment in the case c-128/11 in which it confirms the possibility of resale of the software"
the license is valid if the dealer guarantees the regular deactivation and reactivation process.
cmq must be informed about the reliability of the dealer.
 
autocad is no longer sold by perpetual license but through subscription (software as a service) so that sentence I don't know if you can apply. However, if one thing is too beautiful to be true, it is probably not true (aldo raine)
 
I had already answered dsw but I do not see his publication. I take advantage to respond also to tristan so I reaffirm the concept.
I was saying that the thing that leaves me perplexed is that they sell licenses in annual subscriptions, even in past years. I wonder how they do
 
if we talk about used software and perpetual licenses, what autodesk does today does not affect licenses released before their change of model of "lease" of their software.

the software has never been sold the "property" of a software (if not clearly specified in the sales contract), the right of use is ceded ("software as a service" .... as a service, not as a property).
with the old perpetual license, the software, in order to comply with the contractual terms of sale of use, could be used on a single computer (if not otherwise indicated in the license agreement).

the used licenses can be reused infinity (until the software will be usable) as long as you respect the original contract of the license of use, ie you can not install and use the software on multiple computers simultaneously.
the activation process is used to ensure (in theory) that the software is active only on the computer from which the activation request was made.

if the dealer is authorized by the software house, it manages the reorganization of the license to the new computer from which the request is made (I assume you know the procedure of activation of the license, at least of the autodesk licenses).

Therefore, as already mentioned, you must check that the dealer is authorized by the software house that has produced and marketed the software.

the price of a perpetual software license used must be much lower than the original, in the price of the new license the costs are calculated to produce it (in this case the "workman", consultants, infrastructure, etc.), the license used should only include the cost of the operator/reseller who sends the request for reassigning the license to another computer.
 
Robi. ita said:
I had already answered dsw but I do not see his publication. I take advantage to respond also to tristan so I reaffirm the concept.
I was saying that the thing that leaves me perplexed is that they sell licenses in annual subscriptions, even in past years. I wonder how they do
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in the activation code of (theoretically) all software (well done) is included the expiration date of the license, if they are authorized, make the activation code request with a default expiration date.
If they sell licenses expiry, they call used licenses to use the license several times.
upon expiry, or renews the subscription or license is used for another computer and another client (to my improper but feasible).

cmq if they create so many doubts, why lose time, or you risk or you leave.. .
 
thank you reddish you were very fulfilling, thank you for the time you dedicated me. I have an original license autocad lt 2024 on the pc to study and I paid it 560 € for a year, in my opinion a theft. for the laptop I have at home I would like a cheaper software because I use it very little. However for an annual license of autocadlt 2022 want less than 60 euros, I will risk and if it is a scam I will survive!
Good evening
 
There are two commercial autocad alternatives (with a halved cost), perhaps already known, bricscad and nanocad both valid.

I rechecked the site of "macrosoft" and I figured out where the scam is, if so can be defined, sell educational versions of the software, can use the students and teachers but it is not for commercial use.
 
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as an alternative, council progecad, produced in Italy. great software.
I know macrosoft, issue regular invoice, but I can't figure out how they can sell a subscription software as if they were used. .
 
Onda said:
as an alternative, council progecad, produced in Italy. great software.
I know macrosoft, issue regular invoice, but I can't figure out how they can sell a subscription software as if they were used. .
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I asked myself the same thing. today I try to hear them in chat, I keep you updated
 
Onda said:
as an alternative, council progecad, produced in Italy. great software.
I know macrosoft, issue regular invoice, but I can't figure out how they can sell a subscription software as if they were used. .
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How much does a progecad license cost?
 
Robi. ita said:
I have an original license autocad lt 2024 on the pc to study and paid it 560 € for a year, in my opinion a theft. for the laptop I have at home I would like a cheaper software because I use it very little.
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your autocad license lt 2024 can install it on 3 stations that do not work simultaneously so, if as you say, use little laptop at home you can safely install your lt at no extra cost
 
progecad pays it once. autocad lt pays him every year.. saving is remarkable. then you can use the network license, it costs a little more, but you can open it on any pc, not at the same time.
I am not in maintenance, which I think of a very high cost.. I buy my license and I close it like that. In so many years, I'll think about it. .
the network license you can use it on a pc and then remove it from the network, then take away your laptop. Moreover, the price compares it to light, but progecad has the functionality of the full. not that they always serve, but sometimes it can be convenient.
 

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