arched or separate management inps

[cacciatorino]

kind colleagues,
Surely here, there's some degree in engineering enrolled in the albo, who exercises the free profession in p.iva.

I deal with mechanical design with business customers, and consequently I do not sign any civil work and do not certify any machinery. I therefore wonder whether I am or not practicing the profession of engineer, no law randomly prohibits periti or chicchessia from designing an automatic machine.

the problem arises from here: being enrolled in the order involves having to subject to the "permanent training", which for me does not make any sense as the certified courses to acquire credits are invariably aimed at civil engineers: acoustics, lighting, fireproofs, etc. etc. I could also "form", but on subjects of which I do not care anything, but losing time and money.

a solution could be to abandon the order of engineers and arched and move to separate management of inps, someone did? What are the pros and cons?

 

[ceschi1959]

Gestione Separata: le aliquote contributive per il 2024

Sito ufficiale di INPS (Istituto Nazionale Previdenza Sociale)

www.inps.it

Look here and then you can tell me...

 

[cacciatorino]

Gestione Separata: le aliquote contributive per il 2024

Sito ufficiale di INPS (Istituto Nazionale Previdenza Sociale)

www.inps.it

Look here and then you can tell me...

Yes, in fact, I watched...

Now I am trying to understand with my order whether I army or not army the engineering profession, and understand what happens if I declare one or the other thing. If I'm not an army, I'm not subject to the training obligation, but then they'll tell me that I'm no longer eligible to be part of the swallow, and then they'll throw me both from there and the archer?

 

[biz]

a professional is such because enrolled in a professional order, otherwise it is not. If you are instructed to the order of the naives certain that you exercise the profession. by obligation you are required to register for the reference box, if you want to leave the round you must cancel the registration from the order. At least this is what is valid for the order of industrial experts and industrial experts graduates to whom I am enrolled, but I imagine it is worth the same thing also for the ing.

 

[cacciatorino]

a professional is such because enrolled in a professional order, otherwise it is not. If you are instructed to the order of the naives certain that you exercise the profession. by obligation you are required to register for the reference box, if you want to leave the round you must cancel the registration from the order. At least this is what is valid for the order of industrial experts and industrial experts graduates to whom I am enrolled, but I imagine it is worth the same thing also for the ing.

the secretariat told me otherwise: If not "fright" projects then I am not exercising exclusive prerogatives of engineers for which I am obviously practicing a profession but not that of engineer. And yet they have confirmed that I can remain in the order. We'll see what they say for the permanent training obligation.

I repeat that my problem is not as much as this compulsory training system which in my specific case is not of any use.

 

[biz]

Sorry, I said an inaccuracy. the subscriber may not pay in the reference case, after communication through a specific form, provided that he does not operate as a freelancer. for training credits you must feel the order. we have the obligation, as free professionals, to produce an annual cfp tot, while employees, that is not free professionals, have the obligation to make another tot, many less. I see it hard.

 

[cacciatorino]

the engineer enrolled in the order that works as a freelancer but must not "sign" his works is such a rare animal that no one knows how to treat him and for which it is very difficult to find precise information. I have said to my order my situation, let's see what they answer me.
News for curiosity that accredited courses follow?

 

[biz]

the engineer enrolled in the order that works as a freelancer but must not "sign" his works is such a rare animal that no one knows how to treat him and for which it is very difficult to find precise information. I have said to my order my situation, let's see what they answer me.
News for curiosity that accredited courses follow?

next will be a course on the iso gps.
then theoretically there will be a course on materials and thermal treatments.
we have courses related to our sector.

 

[cacciatorino]

next will be a course on the iso gps.
then theoretically there will be a course on materials and thermal treatments.
we have courses related to our sector.

Who are you doing it with? these could also make sense

 

[biz]

iso gps we turned to aginsoft.
materials and treatments to a specialized in materials.

 

[cacciatorino]

iso gps we turned to aginsoft.
materials and treatments to a specialized in materials.

but are courses recognized by the professional order? The main problem unfortunately is that.

 

[biz]

but are courses recognized by the professional order? The main problem unfortunately is that.

si

 

[cacciatorino]

si

ah ok, because for example enginsoft does not appear among the providers admitted by low , unless it has been inserted under other name.

 

[biz]

ah ok, because for example enginsoft does not appear among the providers admitted by low , unless it has been inserted under other name.

I don't know, I know we're lost.