3d solid edge sketches

[cesius79]

I've just been approached by solid edgev20 intrigued by the fact that many companies use it and that apparently it has great potential, but after doing a little tutorial I realized that:
a) Can't make 3d sketches?!? ?
b) does not have the frame assembly (so if it does not swing in inventor) and that is the possibility to draw from a 3d sketch a frame with any type of profile.... .
tell me that something is missing from my installation or that I just haven't seen where these features are because otherwise I must already think that it has 2 big gaps! !
Hi.
p.s. also elsewhere has the piogga restaurateur arrived? even if then the moisture will make us think more... .

 

[Be_on_edge]

I've just been approached by solid edgev20 intrigued by the fact that many companies use it and that apparently it has great potential, but after doing a little tutorial I realized that:
a) Can't make 3d sketches?!? ?
b) does not have the frame assembly (so if it does not swing in inventor) and that is the possibility to draw from a 3d sketch a frame with any type of profile.... .
tell me that something is missing from my installation or that I just haven't seen where these features are because otherwise I must already think that it has 2 big gaps! !
Hi.
p.s. also elsewhere has the piogga restaurateur arrived? even if then the moisture will make us think more... .

to do what you ask you have to enter the "structures" environment.

Hi.

 

[cesius79]

to do what you ask you have to enter the "structures" environment.

Hi.

hi be....intendi weldment?scusa but I work with the English...in any case if you need a 3d sketch even in the world "part" you can not?

 

[Be_on_edge]

hi be....intendi weldment?scusa but I work with the English...in any case if you need a 3d sketch even in the world "part" you can not?

no, weldment is for welding. It's called "frames"... it's not that there are so many.

a 3d sketch in part to do what?

Hi.

 

[ipotemusa]

no, weldment is for welding. It's called "frames"... it's not that there are so many.

a 3d sketch in part to do what?

Hi.

e, with the 3d sketch in the part you would avoid having to invent plans, sketches, plans, sketches, curves for points, etc etc etc etc. that sometimes serve to make "moved" parts, certainly not cubes.

It's a big sedge gap, which, among other things, if you implement in part the 3d sketch that is in structures or in xpress route would be perfect.
I asked for assistance from version 12 (me and many others), every new version..... and nothing.
to the face that listen to customer feedback, avoid commenting beyond the indecent behavior of zimenz on all fronts.

 

[vespa_83]

approach to a program is essential. in s.e. you work "for floors" and with "schizzi that adapt", the passage to s.e. can become difficult if you do not accept these two principles.
after which a 3d sketch finds very few cases in which it serves, where we use loopholes or commands that resemble us.
the concept if you think about it is not so stupid: once you make the table you must through views represent and quote the piece: every view is shrinkable to a plan. therefore a designable and representative piece is "piani-orientend"

 

[Leso]

Perhaps today determine the behavior of a cad 3d based on the fact that it must be untouched is not so correct. Now the boards are losing a lot of their importance and I think it will be an irreversible process. I used the 3d sketch in inventor, too, and I immediately noticed that it was missing when I got to it. It is not indispensable but, as the key to draw a polygon (implemented in the st), it is very convenient for many.

 

[zeigs]

However, the impossibility of making 3d sketches is a gap. A couple of times I'm a good sare.
However you can turn around, for example using curves for table, or curves for points on a surface

 

[Be_on_edge]

I agree that having 3d sketch in part would be convenient in some situations.

But let us look at reality, what are the cases where it would be useful to have it?

Hi.

 

[cacciatorino]

I agree that having 3d sketch in part would be convenient in some situations.

But let us look at reality, what are the cases where it would be useful to have it?

Hi.

I think it would be useful for those who make structures of folded pipes (frames, various furniture etc.). If I'm not mistaken for the express route module that is paid, instead if there were 3d sketch you could do with the foundation or classic license. correct me if I said a stupid thing but with licenses I'm not very epserto, at least those high-end!

 

[zeigs]

very special cases, of course.
just to work a little fancy, but without trying too hard: as a basis for the structure of a countiner, for a 3d reticular beam, for drilling a little complex hydraulic blocks, as a base for a motor shaft

all stuff that you do quietly with normal modeling (other than reticular travailing for which the matter is a little less quiet) but having that possibility makes me a little easier. we talk mostly about top-down design

 

[re_solidworks]

mah, I am doing (with swx) carpenters that have to follow 3d facades and are geometrically very messed up. without sketch 3d I do not say that it would be impossible, but the times would be multiplied by 5.
another example could be that of the roller coaster tracks.

 

[Tequila]

I think it would be useful for those who make structures of folded pipes (frames, various furniture etc.). If I'm not mistaken for the express route module that is paid, instead if there were 3d sketch you could do with the foundation or classic license. correct me if I said a stupid thing but with licenses I'm not very epserto, at least those high-end!

I agree perfectly with you, if it were implemented many would not buy express route. then for what the sketch 3d, whether you use 1 time in life or who uses it often, it would be appropriate that there were. It doesn't seem right to me that even if I use it 1 time a year we have to miss half a day to shape a particular because I am forced to make plans, sketches, curves for points and so on. who makes surface modeling I think it would be convenient.

mah, I am doing (with swx) carpenters that have to follow 3d facades and are geometrically very messed up. without sketch 3d I do not say that it would be impossible, but the times would be multiplied by 5.
another example could be that of the roller coaster tracks.

I needed some structures where I need to make some kind of rectangular cage. I had to create several sketches for my hips and lid. with 3d sketch I would have saved several sketches and passages... but to what is said it seems that if you use 1 time this command does not serve!!!!

 

[ipotemusa]

I agree perfectly with you, if it were implemented many would not buy express route. then for what the sketch 3d, whether you use 1 time in life or who uses it often, it would be appropriate that there were. It doesn't seem right to me that even if I use it 1 time a year we have to miss half a day to shape a particular because I am forced to make plans, sketches, curves for points and so on. who makes surface modeling I think it would be convenient.



I needed some structures where I need to make some kind of rectangular cage. I had to create several sketches for my hips and lid. with 3d sketch I would have saved several sketches and passages... but to what is said it seems that if you use 1 time this command does not serve!!!!

I do not have xpress, but I use the structure module, it works more or less the same way, only that does not generate a file each tube and cannot give you parameters for the fold.
You can make him ray, follow spline, all like xpress.
there was a case where I preferred to run a structure, so that I had 3d sketch, then I generated the asm and the par, and from that part I started to edit x get the desired piece.
It's too difficult for a zimenz engineer to think of putting it in a part, they're too busy putting office interfaces and looking for pirate licenses from those who regularly purchased them. . . .

 

[sampom]

mah, I am doing (with swx) carpenters that have to follow 3d facades and are geometrically very messed up. without sketch 3d I do not say that it would be impossible, but the times would be multiplied by 5.
another example could be that of the roller coaster tracks.

as re_ says is very convenient, in many cases. and it is used more often than once a year. In fact, if you want you could always use that by forgetting the plans (I say by absurd..):biggrin:
is that until you use it you do not realize the real potential; another simple example can be the drawing of particular profiles in a new sketch (actually 3d) with the command convert entities I don't know if there's anything similar in itself. or get sketches from intersection with surfaces or solids, when you do not know where and how to put a reference plan (which would then be echoed from geometry itself. .

I see that with swx they all use it a little often.. is a normal "environment" already present from the basic version (and for years now).

greetings
Marco:smile:

 

[cesius79]

Well, it seems to me that you answered my first question: There are no 3d sketches in part and, if compared to others, it is a gap, point!
the dilemma that remains to me is: but why do I not have "structures"?
the initial menu from:
(1)
2)lamiera
3)Saved
4)assisted
5) drawing
I miss a package?

 

[cacciatorino]

I miss a package?

see attached, the command may be active or inactive depending on your license level.

 

[Tequila]

Well, it seems to me that you answered my first question: There are no 3d sketches in part and, if compared to others, it is a gap, point!
the dilemma that remains to me is: but why do I not have "structures"?
the initial menu from:
(1)
2)lamiera
3)Saved
4)assisted
5) drawing
I miss a package?

question... What license do you have? Classic, foundation? However in solid edge to create the structures you have to open a assembly file, then look for the icon like that of the attached image. I have st2 so I have it by default. If there is no click dx on the v20 on the command bar and go to customize it by looking for this button, or on applications and find it.

once made to create a structure, press the command that enters the structures environment, draw your sketches and then with the structure command select the profile (previously generated in par or an existing library) and the types of edge treatments etc. However, if you're looking for help, find everything. However, there are no structures tutorials.

 

[cesius79]

see attached, the command may be active or inactive depending on your license level.

OK, thank you very much, when I return to the office I look at us....cmq I am doing the 3d of a crane arm that will be analyzed fem... it is a reticulate and with the cabbage that without 3d sketches you do... or better I put one week....(among other you are also unbalanced to make rognostic links: cylindrical diagonals crushed at the ends and welded on the crosses in a unclear way...of course I have a dwg made with autocad). On my station I have inventor and if... on another catia and solidworks...
p.s. thanks also to tequila

 

[cacciatorino]

on my post I have inventor and if... on another catia and solidworks.

You!