about the usual p.iva opening dilemma

[f.fabrizio]

Hi, I have a couple of design jobs to do, shortly. but the idea was precisely to round the salary of an employee's work.
I even thought it could be the launch pad for the free profession.
to bill these jobs I thought I had to open the iva game (I am ing, passed the state exam, but never enrolled in the atbo) and go also to the engineering order. I don't have the slightest idea of how you work with a simple statement. you could direct me (also a link...). Thank you.

 

[MFT]

Hi, I have a couple of design jobs to do, shortly. but the idea was precisely to round the salary of an employee's work.
I even thought it could be the launch pad for the free profession.
to bill these jobs I thought I had to open the iva game (I am ing, passed the state exam, but never enrolled in the atbo) and go also to the engineering order. I don't have the slightest idea of how you work with a simple statement. you could direct me (also a link...). Thank you.

Hi.

do a search on the forum of these discussions on the topic you find different.

Mar

 

[f.fabrizio]

Hi.

do a search on the forum of these discussions on the topic you find different.

Mar

thank you so much, I had written a long time ago, and then I never had time to attend the site... now that is August I will surely dedicate myself. from the discs on this forum.

Bye.

 

[Fulvio Romano]

However, if you expect to earn less than about 5000 eur/year (for self-employment only), the acceptance is a great thing.

make a receipt for compensation for occasional self-employment, you put a stamp on it, and then at the end of the year you do the only one.

you must not warn neither the order nor the arch.

 

[Marcogeo]

but it must be a job that can carry out independently from the profession not a project to "shake", not a practice to present to some bodies!

 

[f.fabrizio]

I thank you for the addition of these further clarifications.
having the possibility to sign up for the opening, and to open the game iva using the "regime of the minimum" (the infamous "forfect", which, by chance, is equal to the statement, but has an annual limit of 30000 euros... as well as strong for a year, and without paying irpef, irap etc.), I think I have found the solution that does to my case. combined with an employee job.
other advantage: income does not add up but remain separate (dependent + autonomous, so no aliquote roofs per sum of income), no accounting obligation, no VAT payments, only a couple of excel columns at the end of the year for invoices made and invoices paid.
I would recommend to those who may be interested... but clearly before I try it on the skin. In theory it is the best solution, with less limits, less constraints, less bureaucratic and fiscal impositions... and also (to measure 2% I believe) I also have the insurance of the engineering order, which is not to be underestimated.

Bye.

 

[MFT]

I thank you for the addition of these further clarifications.
having the possibility to sign up for the opening, and to open the game iva using the "regime of the minimum" (the infamous "forfect", which, by chance, is equal to the statement, but has an annual limit of 30000 euros... as well as strong for a year, and without paying irpef, irap etc.), I think I have found the solution that does to my case. combined with an employee job.
other advantage: income does not add up but remain separate (dependent + autonomous, so no aliquote roofs per sum of income), no accounting obligation, no VAT payments, only a couple of excel columns at the end of the year for invoices made and invoices paid.
I would recommend to those who may be interested... but clearly before I try it on the skin. In theory it is the best solution, with less limits, less constraints, less bureaucratic and fiscal impositions... and also (to measure 2% I believe) I also have the insurance of the engineering order, which is not to be underestimated.

Bye.

hi I use this kind of regime, however it is slightly facilitated compared to others but your 40% minimum of taxes you pay them.

Good luck

 

[Fulvio Romano]

I make a copy and paste from the aduc site:

I tell the story of a. a 34 year old girl, free professional, interpreter. a is mine
friend and what I tell you is real and represents an emblematic case of what it means to have thirty years
today and join the world of games iva.
to thirty years today is inherited, you know, a difficult situation. the debts that leave us generations that have us
preceded, baby-pensions still in progress, social shock absorbers equal to zero, the system
the difficult prospects for the future, the ageing of the population and the births in
decrease.
a. She's grown up in Milan and has been working with disabled people for years as an interpreter of their language. She moved to
firenze immediately after studies and worked performing occasional performances, and work of any kind, in
waiting for a good start as a free professional.
meanwhile, with a small family help, he bought a studio on which he corresponds
Monthly loan that pays by itself. last year a., matures the decision to open the game iva because the
his profession now, after a few sacrifices, is carried out regularly. and in fact, it presents itself – and also
satisfied!- by the accountant with well 20,000 euros gross turnover for the year 2008, on which of course
a. has already corresponded almost the totality of the impef, by means of acknowledgment. therefore, to facts, with 16,000
Actual euro.
and here the bitter surprise. the accountant gives her the vicious news of welcome in the world of “big” (or
better, than the “old”). a. will have to correspond within and beyond the end of 2009, well 8.500,00 euros of inps
separate management (26% of turnover), of which half' in pension account 2009, the other half' in payment
Security 2010!
Why? asks in tears to... why the state, when you enter the profession, instead of facilitating your
Incoming, she asks you an extra effort, an advance for years to come.
a. he had to make a mortgage to match these denarius in the expected time, that the inps allowed her to
rate for a few months, paying over 1000,00 euro per month for all remaining months of 2009. in fact
16,000 euros with which he lived last year, a good part was spent to live, another is
match for the mortgage of the studio where he lives. They were gone.
welcome the state to the young generations.
I leave every reflection and bitter comments.

 

[sampom]

I make a copy and paste from the aduc site:

..even because (it seems) with a statement you cannot exceed 5000 euros per year; She came to 20000. Clearly they make her pay.
and even had not gone to open p iva in time they would have caught the same.. and if they control the previous years that are >5000, they will pay the arrears

greetings
Marco:smile:

 

[Fulvio Romano]

..even because (it seems) with a statement you cannot exceed 5000 euros per year; She came to 20000. Clearly they make her pay.
and even had not gone to open p iva in time they would have caught the same.. and if they control the previous years that are >5000, they will pay the arrears

greetings
Marco:smile:

The problem is not that...
I pay a tot for every invoice, I have a misery left, and at the end of the year I find that half of that misery I have to give it to the inps... at that point I do if the money don't have it?

 

[fab69]

in the only 24 hours, if you look at the site, there are some interesting articles on the problems of free lance, things to do and not to do.
Among the things to do, there is to put away the money to pay taxes, candies, various obolies, just or not. the accountant, moreover, should say clearly, because he knows very well (he told me, it did not please me, but rather than discover it after...).
We agree that it's not a good life... then they tell you to invest!

 

[sampom]

in the only 24 hours, if you look at the site, there are some interesting articles on the problems of free lance, things to do and not to do.
Among the things to do, there is to put away the money to pay taxes, candies, various obolies, just or not. the accountant, moreover, should say clearly, because he knows very well (he told me, it did not please me, but rather than discover it after...).
We agree that it's not a good life... then they tell you to invest!

right,
that a. seems to have fallen from the pear.:biggrin:

greetings
Marco:smile:

 

[fab69]

already, and it is also done wrong (presuming perfect good faith), by ignorance of the law, and/or bad advice. . .
Mah, the more I feel like things are going abroad, from friends "emigration brains", and the more I feel like leaving this little bird. . .

 

[SER.CAD]

:biggrinay in black ... in addition to taxes and VAT you also save the accountant!:biggrin:

 

[fab69]

Italietta without future also because of the "black", seems to me.. .
not that abroad do not do it, and there are countries where tax pressure is also higher (for example I lived for a while in Denmark, very high taxes!), but at least all services work. . .

 

[sampom]

... but at least all services work. . .

and I'm sorry if it's little. .

greetings
Marco:smile:

 

[fab69]

It is not a little no, for example I remember that in danimarca at school, as English is taken for granted (it is studied from kindergarten!), everyone studies at least another language, often two, also Swedish is almost a dialect... In short, everyone speaks at least 4 languages. then at the university students have modest fees with excellent services, and if they want to marry soon, the state finances the couple, and then it gets paid in comfortable installments since they begin to work. . .
cars instead cost a sproposito, so use public transport (excellent even in the last suburbs) or the bike (and in winter, in those places, it is not easy).
In short, the Danes know how to pay a lot of taxes, but they accept, because they understand that "everything comes back". . .