advice on buying cam

[ixx]

Hey, guys.
My boss sent me to the bimu to see what's on the market, to purchase a 5-axis milling cam.... .
we build interchangeable plaque tools for milling machines such as sandvik or iscar etc.
Of course we only do special things, with very limited quantities 1-2 pcs.
who can recommend a cam suitable for the construction of this type of tools?
I just got confused in the fair!

 

[Shrek]

hi, it depends a lot on how you're 'mitted' now, what are you planning? cad 2d or 3d ... or come from the outside, what kind of issues do you have? So what would you expect from a cam? you have a technical tool with dedicated programmer/projector or the machine operator does everything to him, if you give me more information I see to help you a little.
Until now I have seen only a company like your (special users), the cam had taken it but they did not use it because too much taken from work, then to tell the truth I think there was no one who had time and desire to learn really, it is a classic of small companies, you buy it waiting for who knows that, but then to the first problems regularly ends in a drawer, so always allowing the same things to be arranged (crisis).
of course if you use it as you have to make a nice leap of quality.

 

[ixx]

Hi.
math comes from outside directly from the customer in 3d, from us we are two boys who make a mini technical office where we do all the machine programs, the machines are 6 are all on the net and we send to the workshop the designs provided by the customer with all the data and programs to make the piece. to the
the operator of the machine prepares it according to our directions and then you leave.
Currently we have nothing and from the 3d mathematics and tables related to "mind" prepares the program..... .
but in the complex pieces it is a real mess and my boss wants to eliminate all programming times in the machine.

 

[peloritano]

I use catia for the cam... for my experience having a cad with cam module is the maximum ...you can make all changes of the case to solid 3d and have immediately updated the path tools. . .
of course not being a "pure" cam module is not completely reliable in some pretty complex processes but I don't think it's your case.. .
the cost of caia with cam module does not even seem exaggerated at least compared to that of some cam software

 

[endrio1]

hi to all I use visicam of the real and even if I do not consider it a perfect cam however I think it can do to your case.
if I have well understood your needs I believe that you need more a module of 3+2 axes placed than a module 5 axes continuously.
I have been using it for two years and I believe that in your case the automatic recognition feature of the feauters is useful and I explain why.
I imagine that, for example, in your insert cutter, there are open pockets for the inserts of the cables for the evacuation of threaded holes for the locking and other holes for lubrication and what else.
with visi once the model has been acquired, all I have to do is to launch the feuter automatic recognition and all these elements will be recognized quickly with its work plans without any further intervention, at this point I just have to select the elements to work and apply the suitable processing that, among other things, the system will propose already automatically allowing you to change them if you feel necessary.
all this happens in a very simple and intuitive way and in a short time you can learn without great effort.
if instead you had need to work 5 axes continue the module to visi is very articulated and more complex and requires more effort to learn to use it decently but moreover it is so a little for everyone.
I would therefore recommend you to contact the real for a demo on your model because so you can test them and understand better if the product does to your case.
Always defy demos of software vendors because they are very often homework prepared to art to hide any defects or shortcomings.
Good luck:

 

[ixx]

thank you for the advice, I will call them' and then I will make you know!!! !

 

[Meccbell]

I would therefore recommend you to contact the real for a demo on your model because so you can test them and understand better if the product does to your case.
Always defy demos of software vendors because they are very often homework prepared to art to hide any defects or shortcomings.

I say 100% and add that if they want to see the model first they have to answer something like "you come home, I give model".
some seller-demonstrators are worse than the actors in the cinema: If you leave it in your hand for more than 1 day before they give it to your meal at a bunch of programmers, who just pour out the solution to make it as a script and make it learn by heart.
so when they come for the demo everything seems easy and immediate.
However, it is a pity that behind every minute the demo from the customer there is the equivalent of several dozen minutes of preparation at home.
so when the purchaser takes home the software, with a course of 1 or 2 days (just to understand where the various menu commands are) cannot be able to cope with how ever that thing that was so easy now seems impossible.

 

[Shrek]

if after seeing visi you are not yet satisfied, you can always make you make a demo (naturally on your piece) of topsolid, as cam is very valid, the only 'pecca' (if so you want to call) is the fact that it is a little ostico for those who are at first arms.
It is very useful for those who need to simulate the whole machine (axles, equipment, etc.) as in the same working environment you have the complete machine, with all the cinematics, without having to resort to optional packages (= €€€€.
if you find it too hostical or honorable you can always show goelan (always of missler), surely it has less potential than topsolid but in some ways it is innovative, to come up with graphics, very valid for small workshops where it is more important to be productive than technological, then do tools and not airplanes.
Then, so much so as not to sponsor a product only, I can tell you that in sandvik use nx cam, and since their work is to make tools ... besides now nx is in the hands of siemens that seems to me more than a guarantee.
when I was informed at my time, I proposed cam express, it is always nx but with the cad part very limited (for those who do not need to design), it didn't seem bad to me.
I recommend evaluating more than one and being very puzzled.....i, moreover it is their work.
for any questions, I'm always here... if I have nothing better to do.