advice on simplifying soil

[DeDios]

Good morning to all,

I wanted to ask you some advice about my new project in revit. I am a student of building engineering and architecture to address the most important project, i.e. my thesis project:

Well, the first step I have to face is the replica of the areophotogrammetric at 10000 of my commune, to then go to work specifically in some areas. one of the problems is that my municipality is completely surrounded by mountains, so there are many level lines, with sinks reaching almost 1000 meters (mountain zones), and the municipal area is really vast. the first thing I have to perform therefore is importing the dwg file, and creating the ground in the software. Unfortunately I do not have a super powerful machine (my specifications are a quadcore q6600 @2.40ghz, 4gb ram and a video card ati 5850). I have managed to create the entire land (among other things with great difficulties, and a great problem of performance).. and I fear it is a little unmanageable. how to manage the soil so complex? (between the top without having built anything we already pass the 100mb). I thought I'd take advantage of the "simplify surface" command, but I have no idea what parameter to give (I see that default is 0.076m), a 0.5-1m is a too little accurate value?

I have already realized that managing such a vast area will be a big problem if you need screens I will do them without problems.

thank you in advance, good day and good weekend to all! :smile:

disability

 

[Tristan]

"simplify surface" does not do what you think... you should work the level curves in autocad, so import into revit the essential strait

 

[DeDios]

hello tristan, thanks for the answer and for the advice. using the above command do not lighten the surface by eliminating tot points and therefore increasing general performance? My goal is to seek a compromise that will make me work in semi tranquility

 

[Tristan]

using the above command do not lighten the surface by eliminating tot points and therefore increasing general performance?

no, that command serves to copy the surface at a later stage that of creation resulting in calculation of the volumes laid and carried back.

 

[Nikola]

hello I am also facing my thesis in building ing. I have a problem similar to yours although more limited sizeally; cmq I solved by making the planimetry of the entire intervention in a file, then I made the individual buildings in separate files to be able to work better and then connected all the individual files in the main file (planimetry).
sure once you enter everything you will always have performance problems but at least individual buildings you make them quieter.

 

[DeDios]

no, that command serves to copy the surface at a later stage that of creation resulting in calculation of the volumes laid and carried back.

I apologize if I insist, but it is only to understand better: I write to you what I read: "simply surface": reduces the number of points in the toposurface. simplifying a surface can improve system performance, particularly on surfaces with a larger number of points What's wrong with me?

hello I am also facing my thesis in building ing. I have a problem similar to yours although more limited sizeally; cmq I solved by making the planimetry of the entire intervention in a file, then I made the individual buildings in separate files to be able to work better and then connected all the individual files in the main file (planimetry).
sure once you enter everything you will always have performance problems but at least individual buildings you make them quieter.

Hello nikola, thank you for the advice! I did not know this method; the problem is that my project of thesis "dialogue" very much with the surrounding land (it is on the shore of the lake, and it can be that a part develops under water and under ground), and besides being an architectural intervention is also an intervention at the urban level. I don't know if I should take this path, I always need to keep an eye on the context.

However, do you think that updating the 8 gb ram can change global performances a little bit? I was also thinking of cloaking the processor a little bit (passing from 2.4 to 2.7, 2.8) always remaining in the security margins:wink:

 

[DeDios]

I wanted to show you some of the "pasticcio" in which I happened:
zoom of the area, to show you the detail of the level curves
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cloud of points
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[Tristan]

I apologize if I insist, but it is only to understand better: I write to you what I read: "simply surface": reduces the number of points in the toposurface. simplifying a surface can improve system performance, particularly on surfaces with a larger number of points My sfugge thing?

Forgive me! My mistake, mastodontic. I was confused with the leveled regions! But do you need all those curves?

 

[render54]

I apologize if I insist, but it is only to understand better: I write to you what I read: "simply surface": reduces the number of points in the toposurface. simplifying a surface can improve system performance, particularly on surfaces with a larger number of points What's wrong with me?


Hello nikola, thank you for the advice! I did not know this method; the problem is that my project of thesis "dialogue" very much with the surrounding land (it is on the shore of the lake, and it can be that a part develops under water and under ground), and besides being an architectural intervention is also an intervention at the urban level. I don't know if I should take this path, I always need to keep an eye on the context.

However, do you think that updating the 8 gb ram can change global performances a little bit? I was also thinking of cloaking the processor a little bit (passing from 2.4 to 2.7, 2.8) always remaining in the security margins:wink:

put more rams you can, if your pc is qcore 6600 to 2.4 mhz is a little dated
I've got one of them, and then you've got 32-bit ram win.
(3.2 in reality)
to manage a work on 15 hectares I had to buy a more powerful machine (now to already + of 3 years) but it still works egregiously, has 7 64 bit wins and 20 gb of ram even too fast ddr2 to 667 mhz but I can work with file also of 11 gb, of course this is the file of revit assembled, the work has been done in many small files, each building is a rvt

by assembling the job, you can still "spin" the rvt files that at that time you don't need to see and work on the specific + quickly

 

[DeDios]

Forgive me! My mistake, mastodontic. I was confused with the leveled regions! But do you need all those curves?

In fact no, or better.. I need more detail only in real areas of project. removing level curves the surface lightens right?
That's why I thought I was using the "simply surface" command, but I have no idea what accuracy value to set.. Say that an accuracy of 0.5, 1m is too little (now is around 0.07 if I don't remember bad)?

and divide the surface into several parts, hiding those that are not useful at that time? Can it be another solution to increase performance?

sorry for the avalanche of questions, but it is better to immediately solve all doubts! :

put more rams you can, if your pc is qcore 6600 to 2.4 mhz is a little dated
I've got one of them, and then you've got 32-bit ram win.
(3.2 in reality)
to manage a work on 15 hectares I had to buy a more powerful machine (now to already + of 3 years) but it still works egregiously, has 7 64 bit wins and 20 gb of ram even too fast ddr2 to 667 mhz but I can work with file also of 11 gb, of course this is the file of revit assembled, the work has been done in many small files, each building is a rvt

by assembling the job, you can still "spin" the rvt files that at that time you don't need to see and work on the specific + quickly

hi render, eh already my pc is old, though.. it still works discreetly well. I already have a good heatsink (not stock) and..vorrei try to raise a little the frequencies of the cpu. for the ram, I think I will add a little; I have win 7 64bit, and my motherboard (an asus p5kr) should allow mounting 8 gb ram (unfortunately ddr2).

I would like to deepen the speech of the "linked" files, I had never heard of it. how do you manage any changes that are made to the ground during construction of the building? in the sense..when you create the different rvt files of the buildings, you always recreate a portion of land identical to that of the "general" file or do not draw the ground but change it once you have connected all the files in the general file? I hope my doubt is clear.

Thanks again to everyone, very kind. Good Sunday! :wink:

 

[DeDios]

No answer? I must have written some chestnuts:tongue:

 

[render54]

No answer? I must have written some chestnuts:tongue:

Don't worry.
I wanted to answer you, but I had to do and open my 11 gb file and then do some saws took me too long

 

[DeDios]

I am glad to wait because the division of the project into multiple rvt files seems very interesting. I tried to make some experiment "connecting" on the main file other rvt files of buildings, the problem is that the ground is not "forged" or otherwise modified once I apply a building.

However, the work slowly continues, I am finding very comfortable the use of the command "divid surface" and "unisci surfaces": in areas where I need more detail I cut out the above area (hiding everything else), increase and/or change points, and then I gather everything. I would like to leave everything divided, but in the mode I use (hidden line) it is not possible to hide the edges of the various surfaces, so I am in the middle of the planivolumetric of the unwanted lines.

 

[Alfredo Medina]

In fact no, or better.. I need more detail only in real areas of project. ...

in this case, I would like to make a simplified version from the .dwg file with only the area that is necessary for the project; then, I would like to get a list of all x, y, z points of all lines, and make a .csv file; then, in revit, I would like to create the ground by importing the points from that .csv file.

 

[DeDios]

Thank you for the cool advice, very kind as soon as possible I will show you a screen wip.