amletic doubt x workstation

[westcoastdesign]

Hello everyone
I have to choose a machine on which to turn rhino 4 and in the future rhino 5 64 bit
I normally need little rhino (using 90% acad with top application of qs info) but I want to model a 112mt yacht to insert my products (clearly modeled also in 3d) and make a rendering and a video.
taking into account a budget of 1000 - 1400 euri my questions are 4:

1) Just an i7 or better a xeon
2) thinking about a 64-bit 4 or 6-gauge ram future?
3) if I have to make movies and move parts that I modeled I can do it with flamingo or do I need bongo?
3) which video card is better to mount x make counting that I have to make minimum 576p movies better at 720p with these applications?

I have an idea but I want to hear what you think of it, you are part of a very important community at international level.

thanks:finger:
Andrea foppiano

 

[enri]

I try to give an answer:
- for the processor I recommend an i7, because xeon is designed to be mounted in pairs or clusters, and costs much more, including the motherboard and ram, and I don't know if you would have performance advantages at equal frequency.
-the ram, since the cost for the i7 is not too much, if you don't give too much budget I recommend you 6 giga, if ever you can always add it after
-for rendering, and the purpose for which you need to know that flamingo is not lightning in speed and has comuque a cost. to do that animation with an i7 you have to leave the pc on for days!
if you do not know it I recommend octane render, one of the first rendering engines unbiased, i.e. physically correct (type maxwell render) that titally exploits the gpu, instead of dela cpu, with the result that the render is 30-40 times faster, and the cleaning of the noise to screen is made in seconds, so you have an interactive view of the result. (a gpu has hundreds of computing cores)
take a look at the video ed all feature And you'll realize what we're talking about.
the cost among other things is a quarter of flamingo! for now is a beta and costs 99 euros, next v1 will cost 199. you can import into obj, and make animations: here are a few examples:http://vimeo.com/11243489http://vimeo.com/11278582If you are looking for vimeo and yutube you will find many more movies.
there is an alternative to octane, is arion render, which comes from fryrender, same characteristics (except the node editor) a plugin connecting with rhino, also exploits the cups and all the cores present, and a greater cost, on 995 euros.http://www.randomcontrol.com/arion.
-the above-mentioned sw use cuda so you have to take a nvidia, the more cuda core there are better is obviously, according to me it is not worth a picture because rhino is ok also with the desktops. from the gtx 260 up, or the new stops the 470 and 480, but warm and consume a lot, but for the calculation cuda go a wonder.

 

[westcoastdesign]

thanks enri, great post, you have clarified me a lot of ideas, in fact flamingo is a bit dizzying, now I try octane, if it works as you say it is a pussy even x that 199 euri x a business use is really an inetia... and if you save time....
then I will be at the ancient but, vata x the servers that are in a rack and in a local climate to 16 degrees, but leaving a work lit all night in the office I do not like so.
What do you think?
- intel i7 860 2.8 ghz
-win 7 ultimate 64
- 500 gb 7200 rpm sata 3
- 6gb ddr3 1066 mhz (3x2)
- nvidia picture fx 580 512mb pcle x16
- etc.
it sells the of about 1000 not that I want to take it from them, maybe I will mount it, now I was interested in identifying the operating components just x me, cmq if you have some straight I willingly accept

 

[enri]

I think it's not okay with the board, i.e. if you have very big models in autocad it's okay the picture with the specific drivers, but as I said rhino it's okay with the desktops, and for the gpu more core there are better, and a gtx has many more than the fx 580 picture looks this list. it also counts the vram, because the model and all the textures are loaded into the ram of the video card, so the higher the better it is.
the ideal would be to have two graphic cards, a picture for the viewport, like the 580, which manages the scene, and one for the calculation, so it would be better to have a motherboard on which you can put two tabs, maybe start with one and then add another in it, even in view of a decrease of prices.
However octane you can try it (arion no for now) and to do the animations you have already seen, perhaps informed, because the specific function to animate will be there later, but already now they can do it.

 

[westcoastdesign]

I still take advantage of your availability, I downloaded octane, I saved a rhino file in .obj but once open octane I only found "obj mesh import preferences" but I did not find the way to import the file, even with a drag & drop, open me alone the possibility to open .ocs files
I guess it's a ca..ata but I need a help....

 

[enri]

I did not try it, since I still have an ati, take a look at the videos, I have already seen more than once opening an obj, only supported format, but very well, and fast.
also in the forum there are many ideas.

 

[westcoastdesign]

I managed, I tried to model a tablet and export it, creates an obj file and a mtl (for materials) while popping up all the material import boxes displaying a single monolith, in theory should recognize the materials... boh I'm gonna break my head a bit, sure with my 9600 gt mounted on my mac with only 32 cores and 256mb gets scared

 

[enri]

to select the materials there should be some kind of dropper. still use it in few, but on the official forum the developer and many users are always very available.