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tristan know that it is always topsecret but I still try,
Are there any news about the stairs?
maybe in the 2017 version....
I wonder if autodesk is interested or not
to make possible the "famous" connection with floors and walls?


p.s. : I asked the question here because on page 1
I asked the same question so I didn't want to
create a new discussion.
 
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there had to be news on the stairs but they postponed to 2018
you understand, 2 years to update a module that is at least 4 or 5 years that sucks:biggrin:
On the other hand there will certainly be new and fantastic features on the adaptive that I use every day for the many projects of museums in destructive and organic style that commission me every three for two :tongue:
 
"It sucks" seems like a parolona, indeed two...it is undoubtedly better but I do not find it so disappointing.
question without any controversy...but do you participate in international forums and beta testing? I do, and I never find a match between the criticisms made by us Italians and the rest of the world. At this point, or we are the scassadors or all other users of other countries are in good mouth. I don't know what to say.
 
"It sucks" seems like a parolona, indeed two...it is undoubtedly better but I do not find it so disappointing.
question without any controversy...but do you participate in international forums and beta testing? I do, and I never find a match between the criticisms made by us Italians and the rest of the world. At this point, or we are the scassadors or all other users of other countries are in good mouth. I don't know what to say.
You caught me on the wrong day:)
I am modeling an internal staircase, nothing of which, two beams with step without lift, scale to u with landing with handkerchiefs.
There is no way to turn 'you blessed fascioni as in reality, it touches me to switch to place modeling, and then waste a lot of time.
these are the things that adesk does not take into account, that we are not all mega studies with operators/designers dedicated to modeling.
the adesk approach is of industrial type, but me and many others are closer to an "artistic" concept.
There is nothing wrong with the addesk vision, but that revit is the future of all architectural modeling unfortunately I must admit that it is not true.
 
You caught me on the wrong day:)
I am modeling an internal staircase, nothing of which, two beams with step without lift, scale to u with landing with handkerchiefs.
the scales have dozens and dozens of variables and cannot all be predictable or foreseen; You're perfectly right when you say that the approach is industrial and, I guess, the scale you're making will make you do it in the workshop, so another pair of sleeves.
I personally doubt that software "generalists" as revit, archicad or allplan, without the help of external plugins, model all possible variants of imaginable scales; free modeling removes from the hanging. then that there are software that do this better than revit, there is no shadow of doubt
 
the scales have dozens and dozens of variables and cannot all be predictable or foreseen; You're perfectly right when you say that the approach is industrial and, I guess, the scale you're making will make you do it in the workshop, so another pair of sleeves.
I personally doubt that software "generalists" as revit, archicad or allplan, without the help of external plugins, model all possible variants of imaginable scales; free modeling removes from the hanging. then that there are software that do this better than revit, there is no shadow of doubt
generalist software does not do so because it is developed on the needs of markets that these problems do not have them.
What makes me despair is that they don't even provide you with generic tools to satisfy these shortcomings quickly.
without wanting to pass for what spits in the dish whose he ate, revit on the modeling "free" is losing points every year he passes.
the masses become more and more powerful, but also more Moroccan and manageable only according to the strict rules based on the needs of the program more than that of the user.
My concept is simple: If I wanted to do pure cg I would have done another job, but I do the architect, and my job is to draw houses, do not slam me two hours to change work plans in sequence to draw a simple mass for the graphic demonstration of the volume of a sotottetto.
 
thanks tristan

fabio.revit for the graphical demonstration of the volume of a roofAt the time I tried allplan and with his reports I think it was unbeatable.
for revit had been made instead a plugin to pay but now I do not remember the name.
(if memory helps me post the link)
 
These are the things that are pushing me to abandon revit.
Does it seem normal for you to draw a simple spiral staircase to make 3 export and use a different software (so an extra license and an extra investment for training)?
It's a workflow that goes well if you're an integrated American study, where you work for general contractors and then you have to provide a solution ranging from the architect to the structural, passing through the executive design of carpenters, all the contrary to the workflow of 99% of small Italian studies.
wouldn't it be easier to provide in revit a scale module that works decently and then leave your choice if using other software if you need more detail?
 
are fabio views. for me it is already decent to create "generic" stairs. Do you have to do the particular thing? Then we are using specific software! Is this... where does it say that I have to do everything with the same software? If you told me about revit 2010 that she didn't make her ladders at the bare, if not with some subterfuge and a couple of madones, then I would fully agree with you, but now things go differently. Then if I don't make the bundles like I want to care, I would never dream of making an executive of a glass and steel scale (with flanges, handkerchiefs, bolts and welds) in revit, to pass then in the workshop... it's not his job.
 
are fabio views. for me it is already decent to create "generic" stairs. Do you have to do the particular thing? Then we are using specific software! Is this... where does it say that I have to do everything with the same software? If you told me about revit 2010 that she didn't make her ladders at the bare, if not with some subterfuge and a couple of madones, then I would fully agree with you, but now things go differently. Then if I don't make the bundles like I want to care, I would never dream of making an executive of a glass and steel scale (with flanges, handkerchiefs, bolts and welds) in revit, to pass then in the workshop... it's not his job.
but I don't want to do an executive, but simply have a sufficiently accurate view that I can present my ideas to my client....you know how it is, I do the harp, not the cg artist.
the scale I was drawing was very simple, but the bundles absolutely didn't work and in the perspective views it sucked, so I had to do them in place. But now if I make a change, it's all about me.
and this is not bim.
 

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