autocad 2022 license to life at €70: what is the trick?

[reggio]

autocad 2022 lifetime license to €70 .. what is the trick?

I come across this attractive proposal:

https://cyby.it/collections/autodesk/products/autodesk-autocad-2022™

the cost difference is as attractive as it is incredible, but it is true that other licenses, e.g. office purchased at €20 on stunners seem, in the end, to be legal ...
So, would you know in this case what we are facing and especially what it takes to show that your license is, unquestionably in order and legal?

 

[Vittorio]

if you do a site search --> quiThis appears, .. I would not trust

 

[reggio]

Thank you. @vittori In fact I don't want to trust, I want to be sure,
the fact that he has hidden the name does not say anything, even that the home is abroad.

the problem is to understand what it takes to be in place, net of the smarter who sells everything and the mother house that makes ear from the merchant if you ask him to confirm the validity...

 

[thelittlesniper]

boh, to me these sites that sell you software at a tenth of the official price always smell me of scam. you could try but at your own risk and also because if autodesk catches you using software with unofficial license it makes you a lot!
they audit them and if they believe you are using a license not properly they send you the account directly with very limited options to counteract.

 

[Tristan]

"when one thing is too beautiful to be true is because it is not true" (holding aldo raine - bastards without glory)

 

[reggio]

Okay, guys, sacred opinions,

but the question Prince remains:What is needed to prove that your license is, unquestionably in law and law?when we bought sw ad es, we didn't receive a card with timbrone from dassault, neither an original dvd (no more), nor a license or other, only the invoice of a "reseller", that says to be a dealer, whose site shows sw on sale, but I can't know if that dealer is official or not, if you put the original serial or not...
I say this because, at the request of invoice for autocad to these gentlemen, I was answered "there is no problem", so they place themselves like many other dealers ...

then: What is needed to prove that your license is, unquestionably in law and law?

 

[Tristan]

when we bought sw ad es, we didn't receive a card with timbrone from dassault, neither an original dvd (no more), nor a license or other, only the invoice of a "reseller", that says to be a dealer, whose site shows sw on sale, but I can't know if that dealer is official or not, if you put the original serial or not...

Just write to the mother house and ask if that dealer is authorized. or buy directly from the mother's house, since everyone now has the online store

 

[GiGa]

...
the cost difference is as attractive as it is incredible, but it is true that other licenses, e.g. office purchased at €20 on stunners seem, in the end, to be legal ...
...

The difference lies in the word "paiono". . .
office licenses are generally multi-user licenses (e.g. they are called so) sold to companies that have, for example, 1000 users. these then reveal the 1000 utilities but maintain control of the main account (with all that follows, including privacy).

It's the reason why, when they sell them to you, the seller always specifies that, in case of no activation, to contact him directly instead of microsoft... Who knows why?

once I tried to buy one (I didn't know how they worked): As soon as I failed to activate it directly, I called directly microsoft that explained to me that, at formal level, they are not valid licenses because an esd license user cannot be revised. Of course, I got paid back. . .

I imagine that the principle can be applied to other "sold" software in the same way.

since then I always distrust "offertone" like these: in case, I contact directly the mother house and I ask confirmation of the goodness of the operation.

who then, in the private sector one thinks of "being in place" with a license "almost doing" are his own and his conscience... but on the work pc better not to take these risks.

 

[gil]

I think the licensing system is far from clear.

First of all, now almost all licenses are not for sale but for rent. therefore the user no longer owns anything. And it doesn't seem right.

Many software manufacturers expressly prohibit, the sale of licenses between users. and in some nations as he uses it, I think the law gives him reason. but in Europe there is a law (norma c.e. c-128/2011) with confirmation ruling, which states otherwise. so the law says that you can resell the license, but the producers make you accept a contract (eula) according to which you commit not to do so.

the result is that many producers do not apply the eula and do not control the origin of the licenses activated. the European community is debating if restrictions are imposed against the law. All very nice.

However practically all software key sellers sell keys for games and those of only one program manufacturer, microsoft. Why? I don't know, but the most popular sites of cheap keys don't sell autodesk licenses, graphisoft, dassault etc.

I have heard that there is some small seller who would, but I have heard that they are scams, and I cannot believe it. even if I do not understand the difference of legality between an autocad license and an office bought in the same way. Perhaps the difference is that the office license key is perpetual, while the autocad license is only annual? Bo.

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[sgreender]

if he had talked about it

https://www.cad3d.it/forum1/discussion/e-una-truffa-this.61149/

 

[Tristan]

First of all, now almost all licenses are not for sale but for rent. therefore the user no longer owns anything. And it doesn't seem right.

We have never been "owners." having licensed to use something does not mean having the property, so much so that autodesk already for a few years no longer activates pre-2010 licenses. then users with autocad lt 2010 and prec. if they have to reinstall the product after formatting or on new pcs, they use it to the maximum for 30 days and then they attack (I know something because I have a pissed customer who in its time bought 10 and now has remained with a fist of flies)

 

[cacciatorino]

(I know something because I have a pissed customer who in his time bought 10 and now stayed with a fist of flies)

especially if the contract says "unlimited permanent license" or one of the various forms.

even with solid edge happens something like this: If you need to move an "unlimited license" no longer in assistance you can do so, provided you pay 1300 and broken euro for the disorder.

 

[reggio]

update

after writing to autodesk, I receive:"thank you for contacting autodesk.to verify whether the software is genuine or not you can verify the license, but this is only possible if you have the software already:display of product license informationto be sure to buy a genuine product you can rely on the official distribution: partner autorizzati Sales department e-storeBe careful that the license you are buying is covered by the support, normally the last 3 versions prior to the current 2023.for products from 2014 in and above, however, the activation code is no longer provided as well as support. "... of the series, buy it and spend it if you have courage, see after you are at risk of fine
... it doesn't seem very serious

after asking the seller via chat if it were legal material and if they could make invoice and receive positive response, then having written to their email to receive official confirmation and pro-forma invoice, I no longer received any response and/or message.

 

[Tristan]

I don't understand your perplexity... they provided you with a link from which to search for the nearest authorized dealer

Partner Locator | Locate an Autodesk Reseller | Autodesk

Use the Autodesk Partner Locator to find Autodesk authorized resellers, partner-developed solutions, implementation or support services, and more.

www.autodesk.ca

and link to the e-store (purchase autodesk software | prices and purchase online | autodesk shop online).
they have been in the autodesk channel for a long time and the sub-distribution is prohibited by a lot, so (unless it is autocad lt) the resale is entrusted only to the partners. who is not authorized dealer can not sell and/or invoice directly.
if you need a product autodesk, send me a private message with your contacts; I'll call you to my Emilian colleagues. work for a platinum partner autodesk and I assure you that the license we sell is 100% legal

 

[reggio]

I don't understand your perplexity... they provided you with a link from which to search for the nearest authorized dealer

Partner Locator | Locate an Autodesk Reseller | Autodesk

Use the Autodesk Partner Locator to find Autodesk authorized resellers, partner-developed solutions, implementation or support services, and more.

www.autodesk.ca

and link to the e-store (purchase autodesk software | prices and purchase online | autodesk shop online).
they have been in the autodesk channel for a long time and the sub-distribution is prohibited by a lot, so (unless it is autocad lt) the resale is entrusted only to the partners. who is not authorized dealer can not sell and/or invoice directly.
if you need a product autodesk, send me a private message with your contacts; I'll call you to my Emilian colleagues. work for a platinum partner autodesk and I assure you that the license we sell is 100% legal

In fact, I am illusory, I wanted the original license, but at the €59.99 of the offer mentioned above;-p

Enough, now I'm going to dust the tecnigraph

 

[Tristan]

In fact, I am illusive, I wanted the original license, but at the €59.99 of the offer mentioned above

ahahahah then yes, unfortunately you are illusive ,

 

[gil]

We have never been "owners." having licensed to use something does not mean having the property, so much so that autodesk already for a few years no longer activates pre-2010 licenses. then users with autocad lt 2010 and prec. if they have to reinstall the product after formatting or on new pcs, they use it to the maximum for 30 days and then they attack (I know something because I have a pissed customer who in its time bought 10 and now has remained with a fist of flies)

I'm not experienced, but I can say that once you bought autocad and that copy was yours forever, you owned the license. Even today if you have an old license, type autocad 2000 can be activated by local legally. Then obviously you have to have a pc compatible with an antique software, but autodesk can't help us.

then about 10/15 years ago, the software houses changed the terms and indicated that they granted the right to use revoked at their discretion. to activate the license you had to connect the software to the manufacturer's website that checked the validity and activated it. in the substance did not change much that.

the fact that today, autocad 2010 is no longer activable leaves me shocked. It seems to me that the license was permanent. I can be wrong, but I don't remember that limitations were indicated. as well as today if you buy officie (not 365) is a license permamente, usable toricamente even in 50 years.

after other autodesk time introduced the concept according to which, they offer software substantially to rent. you pay a monthly or annual tot and they allow the use of a software always updated. I think other software houses have aligned themselves with this system today.
via the online license verification system today you can buy a time (month or year) of use of autocad. but then what remains to the customer? He doesn't have the perpetual license. He sells the remaining time of use. But what is forbidden by the eula except for some cases and however behind payment.
In this way the software houses found the method to avoid remaining on the licensing market a few years ago, preventing the application of the right to resale.

making a comparison with cars, it is like saying: cars from now on are granted only leasing. the car that cost 20'000 euros, now costs 5'000 euros per year, and every 5 years you change your car with a new one. in this way all the used will disappear and if you want a car people who first spent 20'000 euros every 10 years, now in the same time will have to spend 50'000 if you can't use the bike.

Is there any mistake as written? I could remember badly and I'm not up to date so I hope I got some crab.

 

[Tristan]

I'm not experienced, but I can say that once you bought autocad and that copy was yours forever, you owned the license.

It's all right except this trampoline. the license has never been of the end user; license is not something you can touch. the floppy, the cd, the security key, those are your property, not the license of use. that has always been the property of the software house, which at any time can revoke it, and if you are not (or was) well, call a lawyer of the good ones and sue him.
the software house, all, they have noticed to a certain point that it is easier to do business with who is already a loyal customer, rather than to continue looking for new ones (which still continues to do) so they first launched the idea of the "subscription" (you pay me the update of the software in advance), so they have jumped on subscriptions, that in some aspects to my notice some advantage there (even tax), if you are not a pc.

 

[Tristan]

the fact that today, autocad 2010 is no longer activable leaves me shocked.[...]making a comparison with cars, it is like saying: cars from now on are granted only leasing. the car that cost 20'000 euros, now costs 5'000 euros per year, and every 5 years you change your car with a new one. in this way all the used will disappear and if you want a car people who first spent 20'000 euros every 10 years, now in the same time will have to spend 50'000 if you can't use the bike.

Sorry, I was wrong. from July, from the 2014 release down will no longer be possible to activate the software.

the example of the car fits, but you must also consider that from a technological point of view in 4/8/12 years things change, not drastically it is true, but change. with leasing you have a new car every 4 years, with coupons, tires and maybe even stamp and insurance kasko paid. a car that every 4 years gives you more security, more optional, less consumption and is less polluting. I currently have a company car so it's not my concern, but if I have to buy a new car now, from private, I would probably buy it with the new formula in "tax" though I know that at the long time I spend more.
ps dress in a house not of my property and are for rent among other things, but any problems outside the ordinary maintenance if you unmask my landlord, and usually if it happens the bitch are never 100 or 200€ but digits to 3 zeros

 

[reggio]

are opinions, personally useless to turn around, the software houses are stronger and take advantage of it c o s t a n t e m e n t and doing that and only what it suits him, the average user is an annoying lemon to squeeze between one invoice and the other.

Perhaps there is someone who, with his panda 1990 arrives very well at work and still works very well with his autocad 13 ;-p

about the house for rent, you can choose whether to rent or buy, who has autocad 10 can not ... even if they had told him otherwise when he paid ... is different I think