automotive training

[Robert Tutu]

Good morning to all, I have been enrolled in the forum for a few years, some questions I asked and you were kind in responding, in case I introduce myself as I do not remember having done it, my name is Robert I am 22 years old and work for a company that prints pieces for cars in plastic material.
I've been working in this company for about 3 years, at first I've had a 6-month internship contract, now I've been hired as an apprentice 3 years.
the company paid me a course on the basis of creo, for the rest I had to learn everything alone, trying and retrying and studying on my own, this course lasted about 1 month.
now with covid our sector is a bit in decline as there are no orders we had before, the demands are dropped and we find ourselves to redefine the works. I find myself doing the same job as before: storage drawings, editing pieces with creo, supply requests, opening orders, registration accounting data, port the pieces
With the van or the car, I give a hand in the workshop, I put the molds in place, basically I do a little bit of everything. to me it is well not complaining, the salary is good, I arrive to take even 1400 euros per month.
I wanted to ask if someone knows about the courses to be done in the presence or online design in the automotive sector. I only did high school and graduated as a company. thanks to all

 

[stevie]

Are you sure worth jumping into the automotive industry in Italy?
I have a lot of doubts about it. . .

 

[TETRASTORE]

hi robert, I think that the design in the automotive sector as well as the knowledge of mechanics in general and the use of cad, require knowledge acquired in the specific field of combustion engines.

Generally, courses that include both the study of the engine (unless you are interested in the structure), its dynamics and the resulting design, are proposed at university level where the objective mentioned for example by a course of the university of perugia (and others) is as follows:

"to develop and achieve the ability to interpret phenomena that take place in internal combustion engines, in order to know how to design and develop".

if this coincides with your expectations, keep in mind that the training received in the field of three-year degree courses in mechanical engineering is required, with specific knowledge acquired in physics, technical physics, machines and energy conversion systems.

But I also share the doubt of stevie, if reported to the combustion engines, while I would see better training on the electric mobile since both in the automotive sector and in others, already from now on they are making substantial investments and within a dozen years will surely be animated by the push impressed today by the mechatronics.

 

[TETRASTORE]

if instead, the design for you is not decisive this course, which can offer you a outlet in activities that in the near future will require more and more trained technicians.

 

[stefanobruno]

courses to be carried out in presence or online automotive design

They are all secret things, no one will ever say anything serious in this field.
If you succeed, you enter the company without knowing anything and, after years of learning on the field, you will spend years putting into practice what you have learned.
After years you will know all about the rear suspension, you will have the nausea of the rear suspension.
If they ask you to work on the seats, you will have to start all over again, never having seen one.
But don't worry, if you make suspensions, no one will pass you to the seats.
automotive design is a real ball.

 

[Stan9411]

I wanted to ask if someone knows about the courses to be done in the presence or online design in the automotive sector.

It doesn't exist... even because it's too generic.
Frame? Suspensions? engine? transmission? tyres? body shop? accessories? electronics? security systems?

all this is automotive. and no one knows everything. between car-maker and induced, hundreds of people are needed each ultra-specialized on a single aspect to pull on a vehicle. Even those who graduate in automotive engineering have an infarination of everything but will never be industrial effective in vehicle design. they will also be destined to specialize.

the only way to learn is to find work in a company in the field and bang our heads for years. And anyway you're only gonna be good at your job.

However, beyond the difficulty of entering this area, you are oriented towards a good choice.. the Italian car-making will also be in crisis (fca) but the induced does not sell just to them... ask brembo, pirelli, dayco, bosch, marelli, dense, continental (just to mention the famous ones, but in Italy there are a much less known infinity) if they are afraid to lose work.. vw sells millions of vehicles a year and each of them needs four tires, four brake calipers, four lights, one alternator, a pair of straps, a pair of fuel pumps, a water pump etc etc etc... all stuff that vw does not produce itself.. also this is automotive

 

[stevie]

I see that you are a graduate, we say that by now in the field without a degree it is practically impossible to enter, at least as a "projectist", that then designer of what, as rightly asked colleagues... group powertrain, suspensions, vehicle dynamics, board systems, etc...
Maybe until 30-40 years ago an engineer could only draw on multiple fronts, now with hyperspecialization is practically impossible.

 

[Lettore espatriato]

Do you still have university courses on combustion engines?

However, even if I share the general view that the " Automotive Sector" is very vast and difficult to be "specialists" of everything, there are certain skills that can be transferred from one field to another.

If a person is a seat specialist, to say, it will probably have happened to take care of a plastic flank, starting from class to class surfaces, which is why he can reasonably deal with other internal or external parts.

 

[Robert Tutu]

I would like to specialize in the electric motor, as it will certainly be the future. I wouldn't be able to get a degree, I miss time... just for that I asked for some valid course in the electrical sector (first I forgot to specify it). I ask you this information because I want to grow and this sector interests me.

 

[Robert Tutu]

Are you sure worth jumping into the automotive industry in Italy?
I have a lot of doubts about it. . .

I tried looking for some company outside Italy that you pay for food and accommodation, or that you offer courses for training, I found nothing... Of course I think of Italy because I have no connections abroad. Do you know anything?

 

[TETRASTORE]

according to me, at 22 years, little experience and 1400 euros per month, with the current situation in a company where they make you do everything and not relegated to a desk all day in front of a computer, I would keep it tight and for now I would only try to do training courses even for a fee, it's obvious that you will have to choose courses that can be a complement to what you do or want to do but especially, in the second case, inherent in your qualifications that could be present.
for courses in the electric cabinet you can start from qui.

citing also your phrase: " I find myself doing the same job as before: storage drawings, editing pieces with creo, supply requests, opening orders, registration of accounting data"I would like to point out that behind these tasks there is a world and you could, documenting yourself free of charge on the inexhaustible mine of the internet, acquire knowledge that will lead you to be more valued with consequent greater satisfaction.
for now it feeds as much as possible your curiosity with greater enthusiasm; even a little patience would not hurt.
Good luck.

 

[Robert Tutu]

according to me, at 22 years, little experience and 1400 euros per month, with the current situation in a company where they make you do everything and not relegated to a desk all day in front of a computer, I would keep it tight and for now I would only try to do training courses even for a fee, it's obvious that you will have to choose courses that can be a complement to what you do or want to do but especially, in the second case, inherent in your qualifications that could be present.
for courses in the electric cabinet you can start from qui.

citing also your phrase: " I find myself doing the same job as before: storage drawings, editing pieces with creo, supply requests, opening orders, registration of accounting data"I would like to point out that behind these tasks there is a world and you could, documenting yourself free of charge on the inexhaustible mine of the internet, acquire knowledge that will lead you to be more valued with consequent greater satisfaction.
for now it feeds as much as possible your curiosity with greater enthusiasm; even a little patience would not hurt.
Good luck.

Thank you very much for the advice, I will try to do as you told me.

 

[Fulvio Romano]

[OT]congratulations on the attitude towards work and towards life.[/OT]