best path for economic growth

[Stan9411]

Good morning, gentlemen.
I apologize early if the speech will be a little venal this time. I promise I'll just go back to technical discussions.

I have been working for a few years in my current company and, in recent weeks, because of various vicissitudes (retirements, resignation, increase of the workload), it has begun to make me understand informally that there could be an increase of my responsibilities resulting in adjustment of my contractual level.
Okay. a half promise.. but then cards do not see.. then the company... ok I care what you do, it is solid, there are no problems whatsoever.. but then there are some goals to carry out, some work experiences that one would like to do, before becoming logistically less flexible...

Obviously when you start thinking about these things, that’s where you get notification on linkedin: proposed by a consulting company to go to work as a resident for an important automotive company. So all the interest of your passion is born. However, the proposal is exactly with the same level of contract I currently have, but in fact superminimum and transfer fees. . therefore nothing “growth” in the contractual sense of the term. I would still be a fifth level, with steroids of the transfer allowance.

the question is: better a small but stable economic growth, accompanied by a hierarchical growth and responsibilities? or rather the passage to a reality that I am passionate about, but in which I would continue to be one of the many, even if accompanied by a strong economic growth (we would talk about 4-500€ more per month) however coming in toto from the extra ccnl, therefore all tied to the momentality of the job (which will still last for a minimum of 2 years, with always very likely prorogues)?

excuse prolixity. available for details

 

[TAURUS77]

shelter your back when dealing with consulting companies.
don't fall into the tranel of the transference allowance and some plus... at the first opportunity they make you bang here and there.

 

[Stan9411]

thanks for the advice. well, you know, at my young age, considering that the figures are black on white, i can tolerate being locked from a working point of view. are all experiences.

i only regret that, in order to get to an interesting figure, they must encourage with extras that are part of situations of relative duration, rather than attempt the candidate with an increase in ral. my question mainly concerns raising opinions on this aspect. that maybe it's a problem i'm only doing...

 

[PIETRO2002]

unfortunately we live in precariousness, instead of increasing the fixed part, companies point to the variable salary quota, today there is no tomorrow...

 

[cacciatorino]

unfortunately we live in precariousness, instead of increasing the fixed part, companies point to the variable salary quota, today there is no tomorrow...

my job advisor always recommended me to level up employees rather than assign the superminim. this is because in case of a dispute you might be forced to recognize both the level shot and the previously agreed superminimum (i hope i have understood well what had been done to me at the time).
then superminims are not easily reabsorbable unless they are disguised as various rewards.

 

[TETRASTORE]

I personally would choose professional growth in the current company; growth that a tomorrow will offer you more opportunities to a higher level of responsibility also to other realities.
the new proposal, on the other hand, gives you something immediately of economically ephemeral but in the long term I fear that you will regret it.

 

[Stan9411]

Thanks for the advice. I do not think that accumulating experiences in important realities of the automotive sector is something I can regret at a working level. there are certainly logistical, personal disadvantages, maybe even some economic pathema, but fortunately I think I still have a age in which I do not have great need for stability. to go back to a company producing goods you always do in time, but strong of a more varied curriculum.
in general I think that the excessive stay in a company can undermine a path of growth.
Beyond the technical aspect, salaries rise when changing. there are also statistics that confirm it

 

[TECNOMODEL]

Thanks for the advice. I do not think that accumulating experiences in important realities of the automotive sector is something I can regret at a working level. there are certainly logistical, personal disadvantages, maybe even some economic pathema, but fortunately I think I still have a age in which I do not have great need for stability. to go back to a company producing goods you always do in time, but strong of a more varied curriculum.
in general I think that the excessive stay in a company can undermine a path of growth.
Beyond the technical aspect, salaries rise when changing. there are also statistics that confirm it

for personal experience I agree with you, changing various realities helps to grow and gives you a broader perspective, not restricted to the working method of a single company/sector.
I would be careful, however, to that surplus of pay tied to various allowances, I do not know these realities well but risk that it is a mirror for allodoles, then once the transferta is tied up no more and then... .

 

[Stan9411]

I would be careful, however, to that surplus of pay tied to various allowances, I do not know these realities well but risk that it is a mirror for allodoles, then once the transferta is tied up no more and then... .

right, but if I pass the interview with the company you want to hire me, the next interview will be with the client to whom I would be assigned. I think there is no one more appropriate than them to have guarantees that I will actually work as a resident in their plants.

 

[ceschi1959]

the reality of consulting companies is very varied, there is everything: from what asks you to give them back cash part of the rent that paid you (feel with my ears), to what you form and you 'coccola' but you must be a span above the average.
even being resident may not be the maximum, even here I have seen of all colors.
Keep in mind that a fixed-time job also entails charges for the worker, look here Are there resignations in the fixed-term contract?

 

[Stan9411]

no no clarified: the consulting company takes me indefinitely. the consultancy for which I was asked lasts at least two years with probable prorogues. but finished there I still receive the salary until the reassignment to new customer.

 

[TECNOMODEL]

no no clarified: the consulting company takes me indefinitely. the consultancy for which I was asked lasts at least two years with probable prorogues. but finished there I still receive the salary until the reassignment to new customer.

That's exactly what, to me, would make my nose twist.
for 2 years you have a certain salary, then end administration and become an unknown.
if reassignment is long risk of having a substantial period at "reduced" salary, if you are then reassigned to a nearby company you lose the transfer fee, and maybe you based your life on the previous heral, with all the problems of the case.

 

[Stan9411]

I agree. waiting for the last interview, I am understanding if there is room to repopulate the fixed part so as to be relatively quiet in the “death” phases. that then you have to understand how many and if there will be. what does it have for a consulting company to hire an engineer indefinitely without being sure to “saturate” it?

 

[ceschi1959]

I agree. waiting for the last interview, I am understanding if there is room to repopulate the fixed part so as to be relatively quiet in the “death” phases. that then you have to understand how many and if there will be. what does it have for a consulting company to hire an engineer indefinitely without being sure to “saturate” it?

the consulting company sells you to minimum 40-45€ Now, it means you get from 70 to 80 k and you pass, if you like, just over half.
What is it, you will ask yourself, the advantage of the society that 'trusts you'? flexibility.
still, be very careful about the non-competition pacts that prevent you from going to work for the customers companies of these companies; Suppose, for example, that you are very good at your work and gain very good knowledge where you are working, propose you recruitment but you can't do it because you signed this blessed non-compete pact often very expensive.
I repeat, there are companies that provide work in outsorcing very honest but others do not.

 

[F_Ingrasciotta]

I was in your own condition about 1.5 years ago, I made the choice to switch to consulting firm ( multinational name. ...and now the names are always two...they also share the first three letters alt*.

my current company also proposes the transfer allowance and only with that you have a net improvement of salary otherwise you return to the usual values from small company... .

I can tell you that currently I do not regret the choice, also because very often the firms where you go to counsel tend, in the long term, to absorb the external..... .

 

[Stan9411]

still, be very careful about the non-competition pacts that prevent you from going to work for the customers companies of these companies; Suppose, for example, that you are very good at your work and gain very good knowledge where you are working, propose you recruitment but you can't do it because you signed this blessed non-compete pact often very expensive.
I repeat, there are companies that provide work in outsorcing very honest but others do not.

I forgot to thank you for the imbeccata. Before August, I immediately raised this question with the guy who does it and guaranteed me that, as far as I know that in other realities these clauses are the norm, they are absolutely not included. on the contrary, as he says @f_ingrasciotta, tend to favour the absorption of their consultants by customers as a "fidelization" technique.

I can tell you that I don't regret the choice

Thank you for your testimony.
There is to say that they continue to postpone the interview with the client to whom I would be destined, so all the negotiation has been a bit exhausted.

I'll let you know... .

 

[Stan9411]

In the end, another consulting company came up. we stayed at the stake both me and the company that had contacted me.

patience

thanks to all for advice and opinions.