MassiVonWeizen
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You did the same research more than a year ago. if you wrote what programs you tried and why did not work you would get 2 results:
help give you answers
be constructive for the forum bringing your experience
help give you answers
be constructive for the forum bringing your experience
MassiVonWeizen
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@federico.parolin Let me spend another year and then make the same question again?
federico.parolin
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Hi, actually, I'm a little undecided.
must come those top solids to show me the program and its capabilities. I would be more likely for inventor woodwork (knowing already use inventor). I stop the price, because it pays the annual license and the woodwork subscription affects a lot on my budget.
I currently use autocad for the major and if I wanted to say the truth I would not need anything else but I wanted to give something more
MassiVonWeizen
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as I have written you have to give starters to have targeted answers, otherwise you will have, perhaps, the new list of programs end to itself.
you didn't show up or you didn't test woodwoork (not from the indications about its features and you found yourself)
do not use inventor, but only autocad, in 3d among other things? Why? What is the inventor's limit? )
do not need a 3d parametric (otherwise you would not use autocad.)
top solid is a program to process the 3d, which must already be existing, for cnc machines; it is not a modeler (just read the brochure).
then summarized:
what programs you used and how you found yourself
what are your needs
what you are looking for in a program
more... .
a year ago you wrote:
so we can desumerate:
you didn't show up or you didn't test woodwoork (not from the indications about its features and you found yourself)
do not use inventor, but only autocad, in 3d among other things? Why? What is the inventor's limit? )
do not need a 3d parametric (otherwise you would not use autocad.)
top solid is a program to process the 3d, which must already be existing, for cnc machines; it is not a modeler (just read the brochure).
then summarized:
what programs you used and how you found yourself
what are your needs
what you are looking for in a program
more... .
federico.parolin
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I'm better off.
autocad use for 2d
3d design for custom-made classic furniture, not always indicated. having experience that change measurements and furniture completely. at least in the embryonic stage of the project where I am usually called.
I already use inventor pro for a client of mine and I use the cavity. use for complex objects or furniture that have no major changes to make.
I saw the presentation of woodwork, and I used ironcad with wood application (by my client). they told me they did everything and maybe it's true. but I do not find this great advantage of time and economics at the end of the year (see that they are not products not standard).
I am external and work with more small realities. the program must be interfaced right with the machine. so I find that the operator must take back my data.
I therefore look for a very flexible program that especially allows me to give more if required
federico.parolin
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federico.parolin
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Bye.
I wanted to make you part of my choice.
I offered a lot, but I couldn't find what I was looking for.
top solid wood made very well and with important library. but the user interface graphics found it horrific.
imos too expensive of time for a small reality.
woodwork of inventor from the graphic and technical point is perfect. but too laborious for simple objects.
at the end my choice was to buy the license of palette cad.
I don't think that's right.
but I fill his gaps with inventor pro.
if I need objects with complex forms using inventor, in the import I lose the parametric but I will make a reason.
for setting up when I want a job with that extra touch (say artistic) step to autocad.
Perhaps a little questionable the choice but I did not find any other solutions.
good day, faithful
Sbeitols
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I can recommend solidwoorks with swood! If you want I can get you a free demo
federico.parolin
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Could be interesting. I had never guessed swood
Sbeitols
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If you want I can give you more info, write to me in private that I leave my references
windreef
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hi, an info on woodwork for inventor, but for the purchase it should be bought the first year a permanent license and then if you want the upgrade to buy the subscription? quite honorable. is it not as an inventor who has a fixed annual cost? I don't know if I explained well. Thank you.
federico.parolin
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Bye.
woodwork is an inventor application specialized for the wood world. is a license that if you do not want the update service and technical assistance facilities, you pay it once.
this has more packages. the base that I needed, it only has the facilitated cad. then there is the version with added of the cam.
calculates 1300 to 3000+iva.
then you have to pay annually inventor.
in my search for the most suitable cad, I also found this.
I find that this application is not yet ready for the world of furniture but promises well.
part from fusion that will not be completed as inventor but for mobile is more than enough and important has a reasonable cost.
woodwork is an inventor application specialized for the wood world. is a license that if you do not want the update service and technical assistance facilities, you pay it once.
this has more packages. the base that I needed, it only has the facilitated cad. then there is the version with added of the cam.
calculates 1300 to 3000+iva.
then you have to pay annually inventor.
in my search for the most suitable cad, I also found this.
I find that this application is not yet ready for the world of furniture but promises well.
part from fusion that will not be completed as inventor but for mobile is more than enough and important has a reasonable cost.
windreef
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thanks for the answer,
I inventor regularly use it for work, so I always have the latest updated version. Since they are in negotiation for a collaboration with a new customer in the furniture industry we were looking at some applications preferring woodwork. I could very well buy the permanent license only but my concern is that in the future, updating inventor constantly, is no longer compatible with inventor and having to pay another licence in full.
It would have been more fair in my opinion, for those who decide to constantly update an annual fixed share (as an inventor) without paying an initial full license. In my case, the collaborations go and are then invested and then maybe in a year and a half I don't work with this client anymore, I don't do anything about the permanent license, working mainly in the mechanical sector.
federico.parolin
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the annual update should be 20% of the cost.but I'm not sure.
but what stopped me and that woodwork does not have library and create a fairly wide library of hardware and intelligent bodies it takes an eternity.
then if I allow the carpentry and another world respect the mechanics (not more complex but different) and you would risk being approximate. However alternatively you can use the blum body configurator that is free of charge. so it amounts the 3d complete with drawers, doors and with the already inserted hardware .
windreef
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if you do not have the libraries what is the added value, I saw a presentation and what they decantate for woodwork commands are actually functionality of inventor , mmm I know that I start with inventor then you will see...
What is this Blum Body Configurator? an inventor application?
thank you very much for the availability
windreef
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@federico.parolin the customer was oriented on woodwork also for the speech of the cam, so he intended to make the cnc program and to provide it to the thief that cuts the pieces, but according to my experience in the mechanics with brakes to control , the post-processor of the cams are very generic and they must be arranged ad hoc for the milling and habits of the operator that uses them. This operation depends on the ability and will of the assistance of the cam software that is not always discounted and, as happened to me, could spend months and the optimization of the post-processor both to 50% of the requests, and then not to continue between excuses and various referrals. Perhaps in wood because of the simplicity of the pieces this is not a problem, I do not know.
federico.parolin
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Bye.
woodwork gives him that extra but logically it is inventor who does.
I had evaluated the cam.
but with a comparison with various companies we are reached to the conclusion that from outside and not well.
a question but what kind of furniture do you have to design?
woodwork gives him that extra but logically it is inventor who does.
I had evaluated the cam.
but with a comparison with various companies we are reached to the conclusion that from outside and not well.
a question but what kind of furniture do you have to design?
windreef
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kitchens, meeting rooms, cabinets etc. I don't know exactly. However I wouldn't design anything, it's not my scope, I carry in 3d the owners' ideas.
about the cam I didn't understand why you let it go, do you mean that external programming isn't good because the thugs do it internally? If you meant this, I agree, I've never seen him do it before, but he's been doing it for years because with the tertiary he's agreed so, I don't know what to say.
federico.parolin
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Hi, your reasoning about the cam is in line with mine. but I think that your client did not give the carpenter the program for the cnc, but a distinct cut, hardware and drilling boards. Maybe already with the edge specification.
woodwork you need in this case. because it recognizes money in panels and specific processing. in addition to facilitating the creation of the cabinets. keep in mind that it stops at 3 axes.
the blum cabinet is an external configurator from inventor, created by blum and is free.
where you create the cabinet with the blum hardware (trailer drawers),
correctly positioned and calibrated to the needs. also gives you the cam and you can import the 3d into inventor.
I am of the Lowland and in my area only a company uses inventor for the design (besides me, but I do not text because I integrate it with other programs). but it's a white fly.
Tristus
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something free (which never spoils).
I don't think you can draw the furniture, but there is the possibility to create rooms furnished, with a lot of archives available.
I don't think you can draw the furniture, but there is the possibility to create rooms furnished, with a lot of archives available.