cad to advance steel

[spartacus85]

Good morning to all,

I'm starting to explore the software in question, the problem is this:
a metal carpentry project made with catia, then a step file, converted to cat part, then imported into autocad and saved as dwg... until then everything smooth as oil.

the problem arises when the file dwg viado to open it with advance steel.. I get the project in front of me, it is automatic to give the numbering of the pieces and then to dedicate to the tables...the problem is in the numbering I can not number the pieces. the answer of the program is the following:_astm5equalpartsdetect, even for the distinct same speech the answer is: no object found with the corresponding requirements verify the selection settings if the /class/ property is required a value (flat,profile..) how could I solve? ?

greetings

 

[gil]

I know little and no both programs.
however you said it amounts in advance a dwg file?
andvance steel does not use a simple dwg, but also creates a profile database; therefore probably for him, your metal profiles, are not parametric profiles, but simple 3d solids. ergo does not find parametric objects to mark when trying to make the numbering.

Mine is just a guess and I don't know if the problem is circumventable. but switching from one software to another with these types of files is always very difficult, especially if you can't miss "pieces" road.

 

[spartacus85]

I fully agree with you... but it turns out strange how it is not possible to continue working with a project realized with another software....for example a metal structure realized maybe with autocad you can not then finish the work with advance....according to me one way will be there...

 

[gil]

from autocad to advance I know that there is no full conversion. or better if you draw a putrella "hea 100" in autocad, this is a simple solid, not a parametric part. when you open it in advance remains "the simple solid".

the beauty of advance is to have manageable parametric parts, which autocad does not.

 

[spartacus85]

the point is this....how could you convince the problem?? ? If I have a client who provides me a 3d project made with x software, how could I manipulate it by working with advance steel?? It seems to me as strange that there is no remedy.
friendliness

 

[Tristan]

as gil I do not know in detail as but it is very likely that there is no remedy if not to recreate in whole or in part the project on the above platform. interoperability in parametric software is a serious problem.. .

 

[spartacus85]

Could the problem arise with technometal? ?

 

[Tristan]

I suppose so...

 

[spartacus85]

...therefore or projects from beginning to end with advance steel or technometal.. . otherwise you're screwed :frown:

 

[Tristan]

It's the same problem that plagues mechanical designers. if you work with solidworks and pass the files to those who have inventor, creo or catia, you can not do much...

 

[gil]

therefore or projects from beginning to end with advance steel or technometal.. . otherwise you're screwed

almost exactly.

i.e. interoperability is always a mess (I allow myself to be more direct than tristan). in the building field can be partially resolved using interchange or export formats. but these still have great limits.

for example if the project was made in revit, you could export quite easily in advance. I never did, but I saw demonstrations. but your customer uses catia, which is a software mainly for automotive, so developers did not even pass to the brain anteroom to worry about exporting to advance steel, a building software.

autocad is not parametric, so simply when you export to dwg for this software, you lose most of the project information.

at present the flows that most or less work are:

revit/archicad/allpaln > advance steel / tekla
(general architecture > > structural detail)

 

[gil]

It's the same problem that plagues mechanical designers. if you work with solidworks and pass the files to those who have inventor, creo or catia, you can not do much...

In this case it is even worse, because between mechanical software a little compatibility you are doing it, like the technology any cad of autodesk.
but when you pass from one type (mechanical) to the other (buildings) it is like climbing the everest in bermuda, armed only with a surfboard.

 

[spartacus85]

#porcamiseria
so the only thing that at most I could give the macros to every single piece always if and only if even this "fox" possible. . . otherwise I find myself a read-only project.. .

 

[gil]

... assign macros...

Let me know, but I think it's a waste of time. the only two valid options I think are:
1) use caia (or similar) to finish the project
2) redesign everything, with the cad you have. In this case, the model you have is little more than one printed on paper, the only advantage you can measure everything.

 

[>Iceman<]

Good morning to all,
the programmes in question are of "families" deliberately different. I explain: catia, inventor, solidworks, from a polylinea, extrude a profile. other carpentry programs draw a line (to tell us) and associate us with a record of a specific database.
from a file of advance steel, you can get a "extruded" of autocad, being its platform, but not vice versa.
Bye.

 

[spartacus85]

Thanks for the match.

So if I were in possession of a project made by another software (excluding revit) I will never have the chance to continue working with advance? ?
said this, with advance a project you start and you end up... .

 

[>Iceman<]

I didn't say that.
in case the project is created in catia, this happens, but this because they are programs dedicated to doing completely different things. example: a casket you do it in 1 miluto, with advance steel you take a week. for safety scale of 6 ramps, the exact opposite.

 

[gil]

said this, with advance a project you start and you end up... .

no, as I wrote before, you can interact with revit and probably with archicad and allplan.
but as iceman explains not with catia, that is a family of different software, as I said

but when you pass from one type (mechanical) to the other (buildings) it is like climbing the everest in bermuda, armed only with a surfboard.

 

[>Iceman<]

hello to all, the thing is easy to explain:
in solidworks, inventor and all mechanical software, the hea100 that mentions gil, is drawn the section, then extrude it.
in carpentry cads such as advance steel, there is under a huge database, with inserted profiles and plates.
if you come from solidworks in advance steel, for example, you miss all "intelligence" of the object as tensions, etc. written in a database.
vice versa, I had to make a camshaft in advance steel you would put us a life.
are therefore part of two large families.