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Hey, guys. I would like to ask you an opinion:

I would like to go into the cam world, the purpose is to create mechanical fixing inserts. the solid 3d I made it with solid works, according to you is valid solid cam as program, do you recommend me any other product?

thanks to all

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I personally did not like solidcam. too limited in diversification of cycles and parameters. by now all cams work on native and solidworks features with editing management.

I sincerely like topsolid'cam but it depends on your needs. do a more thorough research because rightly everyone then can recommend his favorite cam and it is not said to do your case. make various demos on your piece and evaluate which you can satisfy most (easy, performance, flexibility, iso ad hoc program).
 
pollicino said:
Hey, guys. I would like to ask you an opinion:

I would like to go into the cam world, the purpose is to create mechanical fixing inserts. the solid 3d I made it with solid works, according to you is valid solid cam as program, do you recommend me any other product?

thanks to all

:smile:
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hi inch
if drawings with solidworks the cam that fits well to it is mastercam
to make the inserts compartments on stems and various things and better than finding cam
that cost little
Thank you very much
 
Hi.
I use edgecam and I often load solidworks models... It is not bad, it is intuitive enough and also allows to customize the postprocessors. I recommend checking on the internet, maybe even on the solidworks website so see the list of various software partners
 
Hi.

I press that I am a distributor, so my opinion can be subjective.
I think in any case that to ask for suggestions on which cam to choose you should give some indication on which cam ti serve.

For example, if you need a production cam (execute many equal parts) it is more important to optimizing the nc path than the time you will take to plan a project; On the contrary, if you realize prototypes (always different parts), an easy-to-use cam will be more comfortable, which reduces the programming time and calculation, even if at the expense of the optimization of the path (longer processing times).
Well, obviously other considerations concern budget, type of machine, number and type of axes to fly, etc.

I still allow myself to give you a couple of product names to experiment, medium-low cost, able to directly import solidworks files and certificates as a partner.sprutcam - from 2 to n simultaneous axes (unlimited), import native sw files and calculation directly on analytical geometries without polygonization; www.sharemind.euVisuality - from 2 to 5 axes, direct import of sw files. I do not know who the current distributors are; I distributed it for some time, but I'm not selling it right now.

a tip:
any cam you should choose, try it on your machine, and check during a decently long period if you are well with the interface and commands.
 
the market offers many tools, in a very wide range of prices, from opensource solutions to blasonous products of inadmissible costs.

I feel like addressing this message to anyone who has to choose a work software tool:

- first: try the products. many suggestions of friends, colleagues, - compagni di forum - can be disinterested. or even motivated by a healthy passion (or gratitude) for a product with which these people found themselves well. but as many other suggestions are not disinterested at all. the world cad/cam, and in particular the high cost products (margins...) lives of a dense network of signalers, procacciators, mediators, agents, infiltrated, that promote with all possible means a particular solution. more money, more power of communication. which is not always equivalent to better software quality, and above all does not guarantee that "that" software is made for our needs.
so, trying is the password. not through a pre-packaged demo: on our own, particular project that we will have taken care to choose among the most representative ones, and possibly more complex.

- second: distrust software that do not grant a trial period, which do not save, or have reduced functionality for demonstration programs. often the features that have been "cut" from the demo version are just the ones that do not work. Thus, they disassemble after, when it is late, import/export problems, compatibility with other programs or with particular hardware devices.

- third: do not fall into the trap "is more widespread, so it is better". some of the most popular products are universally recognized by experts such as the worst products. experience costs time and effort: but this is just how emerging products are discovered, which have to say something new.

- quarter: do not fall into the other trap "costs little, so it is worth little". the world has different economies. the development of a software product in india or in Russian does not cost as the development of the same software product in America or in Europe. but this, and the fact that an Indian product costs less, does not mean that Indian programmers have something to envy to Americans. an example among all who forgets the common place "more expensive is better" is rhinoceros. initially snobbed as "a toy", is today the most popular nurbs modeler in the world, and has fully demonstrated that cost and quality can be absolutely independent parameters.

- fifth, and last: look for, try, buy products that do it for you. products with which you find yourself well compared to what you have to do. a modern suv with leather seats is certainly more modern, comfortable and elegant than a rover land. but if you have to carry a sick sheep on for a country mule track a rover land is much, much better. solo l'utilizzatoreAfter a serious comparative test of various solutions, he can really know what he does for him. if he can stop his ears from the songs of the sirens.
 
right these days I was proposed solid cam, what kind of product is it?. I look for a cam for the construction of details all with the same characteristics but nobody equal to the other. will be produced on a working center with tool change, and fanuc control. I have the program with the 2a and a half of the tebis, but I have to fill out the programs by hand because I have the post-p for this control, and buy it costs a lot.
 
It's a solidworks integration module. I don't know it thoroughly, I think it's available in a variety of configurations, from 2.5 to 5d. personally, I always have some remote to cam software in a plug-in version, and I prefer its stand alone versions.
the reasons are various:
- by adopting a cam in a plug-in version you are bound in the future to use the basic program (e.g., rhinoceros + rhinocam).
- the program is hanging. even when cam functions are not used, the cad or modeling program is affected by the weight of the plug-in
- any updates of one and another can be installed only if aligned to the same version
- the cam module must exploit the graphic subsystem of the cad program that hosts it, and often this is less efficient than the graphic subsystem of the corresponding version stand alone of the cam program
- stand alone products can be used on another pc while using the cad program. On the contrary, the products in the plug-in version, while they are used, "lock" the possibility to use the cad simultaneously.

considering that almost always the cost of a cam program in stand alone version and of the same program in plug-in version are identical, I certainly propose for stand alone products. the small effort to import a model is largely offset by autonomy and other advantages.
 
So if I want to buy solidcam I also have to have the basic package si solidwork?? I'm doing nothing to do with it because I already use another cad.
Thanks for the answer.
 
no don't worry, it doesn't work so, the advantage of having the plugin is just having an icon inside solidworks that opens you directly solidcam or mastercam etc.
if you change the native solid is reworked directly the cam or 'almost' file, but it is never like having an integrated cad-cam type pro-e, ug, topsolid etc...
the fact then to detect the native features is a large cavity at least that you do not work very simple pieces type plates full of holes or sunshades, already if you work a simple split socket you are in trouble and it is up to you to detect the geometries to work, are those little games
that integrate to show something 'fast' in the fairs.
Solidcam is certainly not one of the last since the Israelis with technology know how to do it.
Perhaps if you would know how to use it as you should perhaps sell some extra licenses (direct experience of some year ago).

but how much do they want for the post of tebis and how many axes?
 
Sorry, but if you don't use solidworks, and if solidcam simply offers you a link from solidworks, I think it doesn't make much sense to focus specifically on this program.. .
but perhaps it would be better to start from the beginning. what formats do customers send you models? How many axes do you have to fly? What car? What kind of work do you have to do?
It can be that you can take advantage of it with a few thousand euros, also oriented towards a high-end product...
 
but how much do they want for the post of tebis and how many axes?[/QUOTE]a post for an old fanuc control 2 and a half words shoot you €800 then when you wrap it up and send it to you, between various expenses exceeds 2000 plus annual maintenance rent:mixed:
 
ShareMind said:
Sorry, but if you don't use solidworks, and if solidcam simply offers you a link from solidworks, I think it doesn't make much sense to focus specifically on this program.. .
but perhaps it would be better to start from the beginning. what formats do customers send you models? How many axes do you have to fly? What car? What kind of work do you have to do?
It can be that you can take advantage of it with a few thousand euros, also oriented towards a high-end product...
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provided that already in the company I use tebis for the processing to 5assi, I looked for an economic cam for a 3-axis machine that performs relatively simple details, all similar but no equal, using the tool change.

I'm doing this right now, but since you're thinking about buying a new machine, we thought we'd train an apprentice with a quick and easy way to learn, so I could lighten my work.
 
right as information, sprutcam expert (3 linear axes + n indexed axes), 2.5d and 3d processing, calculations made directly on analytical geometries (nurbs/step/iges/sw/inventor/3dm etc.), composite, complex, combined, automatic residual areas, engraving, simulation of the real machine, collisions, ridge control, rhymes and hs
 

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