cartigli e tavole

[cimaguy]

If I want to import a sheet with a cartilage already made and from this to create a cartilage on top of it and you can do this:
1) Suppose we have a dxf; the amount by activating the flag "sign" in
mask of conversion.
2)Go into the drawing file I see the newly converted sheet.

3)I use the "create group" command from the "group" menu and create a sort of block.

4)now I make "group" -"place group" and pitch inside a new sheet
My block
5) at this point I use the creation comado new cartiglio and there amount
with the yellow dart the entities of the sheet.

6) at the end except the cartiglio and I exit from the door that I see in the mask of creation

I did this
topguy

 

[monster]

Thanks a lot of:finger:

another thing I would like to do with csv files of tables to import in the tables only that I do not have many approcies with excele created or converted csv files that in fact do not reflect the original excel file

in practice if I make a table with excel and then convert it to csv
when the amount with the separate command does not come out exactly what I want

advice on this?

 

[monster]

for topguy in your case does not work you select nothing and do not make a group


for Dalz perhaps in your case as you wrote you have to do it then save it as a new cartiglio but from point 9 you do not select anything of the sheet as you activate the famous folder with the arrow

It seems that there is a great confusion

The most obvious way is that of mocca

It seems strange to me that geometries cannot be imported from 2d

 

[cimaguy]

...when you enter the drawing,before you create the group,be "active view"because
The sheet is inside a view.

in any way I'm preparing a descriptive video; I'm sending it to you

Hi.

 

[monster]

you are right top!!!!:redface: give for the moment I made the tables :finger:

 

[Mocca]

Thanks a lot of:finger:

another thing I would like to do with csv files of tables to import in the tables only that I do not have many approcies with excele created or converted csv files that in fact do not reflect the original excel file

in practice if I make a table with excel and then convert it to csv
when the amount with the separate command does not come out exactly what I want

advice on this?

Hello, monster.
I'm curious: why do you have a table made in excel and have to import it to toptron? and what is the anomaly that you meet when it matters?
greetings

 

[monster]

therefore. . .

when you make a mold project usually in the separate comes out what is actually the mold

I also need a table to put the lengths of the extractors and other things that are part of the drawing...I know that I can make new tables with the distinct but I would like to customize them...all here

Since the csv file exports it to toptron and you can manage it in excel when it amounts it does not actually make you the cells as from excel setting and saved in csv

 

[Mocca]

therefore. . .

when you make a mold project usually in the separate comes out what is actually the mold

I also need a table to put the lengths of the extractors and other things that are part of the drawing...I know that I can make new tables with the distinct but I would like to customize them...all here

Since the csv file exports it to toptron and you can manage it in excel when it amounts it does not actually make you the cells as from excel setting and saved in csv

Okay. I get it.
I'll try to do what you're trying to do to see if I can. Can I give you some advice?
I also have this kind of problem i.e. drafting a separate mold according to a customer standard, so what can do toptron is not useful to me; In this case every time I create or insert a 3d object in the mold (in assembly) I immediately put it in separate so as not to have in the future problems of type and quantity having the mind "fresh" on what I am doing at that time. when I make a mold of 3-400 hours to make the distinction at the end of the project would otherwise become a massacre with risk of error while with the method that I aduct I can always have the project in progress of work aligned to the distinct.

instead if it may interest you to detect the length of the extractors I have a rather quick method that also aduced with other software:
1st I create a separate file that includes all extractors
2nd I created a new terna that has like z=0 the bottom of the extractor
3° I create at this point in the file "part" a label on the tip of the extractor, no matter if the "x" and "y" are not accurate, what I care about and the "z".
4th I make a table of the extractors making the labels appear within which I will highlight only the "z". In this way you do not have to go to detect all the lengths by hand with transcription problems of quotas. It is obvious that if you have only a few extractors this activity is not convenient while if you already have a dozen extractors then the job is worth it.
I hope to let you know my results soon.
greetings

 

[Mocca]

I forgot to tell you a piece.
I told you to make the labels appear. If you are interested, within the same command, you can make the table appear with the list of labels and then coordinates. It's easier to do because very intuitive than explaining it as I'm doing now.
Say hi.

 

[monster]

mocca go slowly do not run away!!! You're good that tomorrow morning I've got another to hurry that's the one in the mold with the downloaded rays...
I can only cry to think of making double closures with double-sided file one fixed and one for mobile with 100% do chapels! ! !

...ignore!!!...:frown:

 

[Mocca]

mocca go slowly do not run away!!! You're good that tomorrow morning I've got another to hurry that's the one in the mold with the downloaded rays...
I can only cry to think of making double closures with double-sided file one fixed and one for mobile with 100% do chapels! ! !

...ignore!!!...:frown:

Come on. the need sharpens the ingenuity. I don't want to traumatize you at the beginning of the week, but if you use a certain procedure, the activity you'll have to do will be relatively simple.
I press that for the mold I do not use, or rather, I did not use the specific module for the molders but I used a series of operations that allowed me to have the parametric mold. I'll explain.
1st I create my out figure
2nd I create skin matrix+out figure (file "matrix skin")
3rd I create the pele punzone+ out of figure (file "skin punzone")
previous operations I imagine you know how to accomplish them with the "divid" procedure
4th I create a block for the matrix (file "matrice")
5° I create a block for the punch (file "punzone")
6th to the file "matrix" I insert the "matrix skin" that I use to completely cut the block
7th to the file "punzone" I insert the "pump skin" that I use to completely cut the block
8° I create a new "tallonaggi" file with the theoretical shape and without rays of the shape of the heels that I will need.
9° I open the file "matrix" and insert within it the file of the heels that I will need to add material to the matrix (or remove if they are negative)
10° I open the file "punzone" and insert inside the file of the heels that I will need to remove material to the punch (or add if they are positive)
11° or on the matrix or on the punch, if the heels had a light between the matrix part and the punched part, from a thickness
12th create rays on the matrix with a value and on the punch with another value obtained what you had to do.

I hope I have not confused your ideas more but consider that all this is parametric and that you might find yourself changing the mold setting without "big" problems and quite quickly.
Good job.
Mouth

 

[monster]

Come on. the need sharpens the ingenuity

...ehhhhh

previous operations I imagine you know how to accomplish them with the "divid" procedure

q-split procedure or solid procedure with split command?

I remember that on cimit wax the command divides that allowed you to color the sup sup and inf of the model ....bah I go unsure of is what if we...


For the rest, all the procedures you wrote, but where I worked before didn't charge the rays so I traveled faster with q-split.... I'll have to adapt even if cmq according to me is a waste of time
or rather say that it is not a waste of time but an improvement in the execution of the mold in the workshop

for the rest the ideas you did not confuse me:wink:

 

[monster]

for mocca

I've been following your idea for label quotation for extractor heads

1 need to make a file part otherwise no labels
2 for the changes you make? if the file comes from external assembly file?
3 all well label heads extractors until they are planes....
4 and the shaped ones??? if they are 50 of which about 6 different diameter groups?
that you do...50 reference systems to then make labels?
5 But when do you pass me?
6 I present in the workshop a table with 50 odds?

My eye is just an evaluation of the work system

I wonder... What are you doing? :bekle:
put a disgusting command that allows me to see a z share compared to a reference system, do a command that allows me to select the offended extractors associate him with a letter for the group and make a nice tabellina with the letters associated with the group with the exact z and maybe why not throw out the letters of the group to identify the extractors.....invece no everything by hand!!!!!! loss of time...and possibility of wrong at 200%

 

[Mocca]

monster...in time....
As you say, every one has its own method of work.
I have a file part for each group of extractors of the same type (file: extractors ø8; extractors ø12: etc) and I make a table for each group of extractors. It's true that it's a rupture of p... and insert these labels, but at least I don't have to go to hand-detecting the maximum share of the extractor and always write it by hand in a pseudo table. Then there are those who in the assembly insert each extractor as a single element so my method is excessively Moroccan I instead preferred another method that I use still now and I find myself well.

the extractors to 99 %, unless you make pans, are centinates so when I go to insert the labels I go to place them to "esteem" on the highest point of the centina to identify the maximum height; the quaota that I will make will appear only the z that I will have previously renamed in h; the coordinates x and y not use them; all the more in the table in the plant quoto their positioning in the "classic" way.
when, in the 2d, I extract the labels I also make appear the specific table for each group of extractors and do not transcribe anything by hand.
you are right that ms should improve this activity but the request that you personally advance the feces about 4 years ago and, not using more summits, I see that to today nothing has changed.
for the changes I do not remember if the labels preserve the paremetricity but to estimate it seems not! then in case of change you should delete the modified label and add the new; in the 2d to cover the labels.
we waved

 

[TECNOMODEL]

I write here not to open a new post, my question is about the creation/modification of carts.
I came to a company where they didn't use paperwork that they compiled by pointing to the attributes of the file, which I don't like.
I then began to create a new paper in which I inserted the texts that refer to attributes, saved and tried and everything is ok.
Now I have to create a new teaming, for example an a3, and I started from the one already realized in which it would be enough to change the size of the score.
But I can't do this. if you issue the cartiglio I can delete something, add sketch entities but do not change the size of the score.
What's wrong?
p.s. the cartilage I created did not do it from 0 creating square and cartilage but I started from the one already in use in the company.