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cimatrone come è?

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Hello to all I am a new user, I am very pleased to be enrolled in this community
I am opening a sheet metal stamping company and have advised me ocme software patches for mold design.

I wanted to ask you if it is a valid software, and especially if it helps design or is a classic 3d design software, such as catia or inventor or proe..
do you know about the cost?

thanks for the help
 
thank you for replying, but I spoke to the commercial and told me that it is a normal cad 3d, very advanced, but in the sense that it does not help you to make the mold, but it is a very paramentary software. I hope to be able to talk to a technician who gives me more info, here I am no answer
 
...one who comes to tell you that toptron and it's a software that doesn't help you make the mold in my opinion doesn't even know what it's talking about! ; especially in the sector
sheet, where all a special environment has been developed with controls,
For example, bending, despair,development etc.necessary to those who make progressive molds.
It's not gonna be the best on the square, but what's the best cad?
 
I fully confirm what is said by topguy. who has spoken to you or does not know the product or has other interests. without getting into the merits of the best cad or cam, certainly in the field of the design of the toptron molds is one of the reference software.
 
I use toptron from a lifetime,I started with it and now I am to version e9.
the best thing he does is the design of the mold... ! !
great for sheet metal.... .
 
oddo1985 said:
Hello to all I am a new user, I am very pleased to be enrolled in this community
I am opening a sheet metal stamping company and have advised me ocme software patches for mold design.

I wanted to ask you if it is a valid software, and especially if it helps design or is a classic 3d design software, such as catia or inventor or proe..
do you know about the cost?

thanks for the help
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What are you doing?
Maybe you come to discover that you make sheet molds of funnel and therefore this software really does not help you + so much.. .
 
I hope that commercial dies of hunger!!! :
here from my side... for the design of molds in the footwear industry... they only use that! ! ! ! ! ! !
 
I fully agree with those who invite you to use toptron, it's not at all a common software, certainly speaking for those who use it like me for 10 years is easy, it was not very easy to learn how to use patches in 2001, but today summittron is very intuitive and use it for modeling surfaces as well as for mold construction, of any sector you talk, is perfect. who does not recommend it has never definitely used it. I would be ready to challenge any competitor software in the creation of a mold starting from a sketch on the paper of the verduriere. greetings partisans... .
 
david_67 said:
I fully agree with those who invite you to use toptron, it's not at all a common software, certainly speaking for those who use it like me for 10 years is easy, it was not very easy to learn how to use patches in 2001, but today summittron is very intuitive and use it for modeling surfaces as well as for mold construction, of any sector you talk, is perfect. who does not recommend it has never definitely used it. I would be ready to challenge any competitor software in the creation of a mold starting from a sketch on the paper of the verduriere. greetings partisans... .
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I confirm the validity of toptron (I work there from the old it 9...)

if in addition to the current functions had integrated:

-Real modeling functions of surfaces like freeform rhino ma parametriche-a function to export to pdf 3d (with maybe some rendering effect) type solidworks

-management a little more "fluid" and consistent of the sl

-a better management of attacks/stacks on the tool path type mastercam

would be the best software for manufacturing

(I made these things present to her many times at the local sw distributor...remaining unhearded)
 
hi stinit I followed this discussion with particular interest. I also have to evaluate a sw to make zama die-casting molds and have recommended me on top. I have a small three-axle working belly of the pear but for now it is enough also because I have to start with this new adventure. I have been mastic for years but in different fields, I do not know how to make a mold and I am aware that it will take a lot of dedication and will. you or cmq you, what would you advise me to examine? acetron, which is definitely complete, they told me directly from the microsystem that costs from 15 to 20 thousand euros... is it worth it if one has to start?
Thanks for the answers. .
 
Good morning, everyone.
if you have to make changes on customer models then toptron and is not the ideal program, if instead you have to make complex molds then yes.
but I repeat you complex molds because for small molds without particular movements for subsquadro etc... less expensive programs are also good.
However I use autocad and toptron and therefore of these I can recommend you.
 
Good morning. .

tomas how to make changes on customer models? to me will give the technical design of the "pezzo" to be realized in zama and from there I have to be able to make the mold...initially I will go for degrees, but the appetite vien eating!! In any case autocad and inventor I already have them but I don't think I need them, right? I believe, but you will give me confirmation, that I need a good program to make the molds and on which to take all the info of the case. as said ridge here in Tuscany is very used but costs a lot... thank you:finger:
 
autocad I would say no (excellent for table and quotation) and inventor never tried.
in the sense that for example to me come models of the customer and I have to build the mold, many times to current design make me make changes on the model how to widen or tighten of the ribs, to give sforms to walls remained straight, to modify thicknesses etc... summittron and (according to my opinion) is not so performing to make this kind of modification.
then for the design of the mold there is no doubt that it is one of the best.
I until a year ago lived in the brands (country of origin) and also use almost all of them stumps and.
However if models never or anyway most times you don't have to make changes to the toptron model and it's great!
 
You're very kind tomas at the limit I still have autocads for the modifche... could you give me some alternatives to toptone? I've been told artcam by delcam can it be? I ask you this because I would like to assess more, maybe you can save a little....thanks
 
It's a pleasure, if you don't help between us for these things.... I would gladly recommend alternatives but as I told you I mainly use toptron and, a little bit of solidwork and rhino but I'm definitely not up to toptron as molds.
I'm sorry, but I'd definitely recommend you wrong by names of other programs.
try to do a search with some keywords of what you are interested in within the site cad3d.it you will see that something interesting you find safe.
 
thank you tomas but it is not true that everyone is here to help... many are here to do the professors and frankly I wonder what purpose! mah....good day and graz:finger again:finger:
 
tomas if I take a pickpocket I'm allowed to ask you something if I need...thank you soon:smile:
 
hi guys, I connect very little and I'm not proud of this but when I get in the mail that in the community we talk about toptron... I'm happy. The purchase price speech for a software is definitely important, and as the microsystem has its own policies. toptron is not expensive in Tuscany, toptron is expensive. but it's a software you're in love with, and today learning how to use it is discreetly easy, in short, more or less of catia or proe, I still use it, but I've used it 10 hours a day for seven years and with a management posting 3 dekels and a chinchinnate. has an excellent cam but above all it is a cad system that in hybrid environment helps the user to generate mold division curves quickly and especially if you work on three-axis milling mills is ideal.
It's clear that if you have to choose according to the price, it's a completely different speech, toptron is not as popular as other cads as catia has the monopoly of the automotive, but in my modest notice in the molding is the top.
If you decide for microsystems, ask in the contract a training course of at least 5 days between modeling and cam then the rest will come from if...
greetings...:smile:
 

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