copy/paste new file

[fidippide]

Good evening, I wanted to try to solve a problem that has always been bothering me. I often have to review my catpart or my catproduct and create a new folder where I copy and paste the last revision. when I go to make changes and save, I often change the source file (last revision). In short, I'm struggling to understand how he thinks about rescues. I would like to be able to make files independent after copying/paste. Is there a manual or guide to read? Can someone explain how it is best to do? Thank you very much.

 

[gianni55]

catia keeps in memory files and folder paths used. . .
one thing absolutely not to do is to use the copy and paste!
First of all, when you save products and files you must always use: menus/files/rescue management, you will appear a window and there you will realize the name of each file and of each location (folder) used as stored. using (always in rescue management) save by name, you can change your name or rescue location.
in the case of copies of the products it is preferable to use: menu/file/invia a/directory, in that way it will copy all the files (products and parts) eliminating all the links to the original positions, making them so independent.
this is also the way to fully and functionally export your work to the customer or colleague.
But be careful that having "different" files with "equal" names scattered around folders is however the best way to get into trouble.. .
when you issue an official file, it must not be changed anymore, otherwise you have to change the name, or add a revision suffix

 

[Giogo]

you tried with the "new from" function

I use it just in this case, then start also from a .catdrawing and you can recreate the .catproduct and .catpart of the project you want to edit
Before saving you can rename the files, if you go better, with saving management but by default catia already adds "_1" in addition to changing the*id* of the file to make it completely independent from the old.

 

[fidippide]

catia keeps in memory files and folder paths used. . .
one thing absolutely not to do is to use the copy and paste!
First of all, when you save products and files you must always use: menus/files/rescue management, you will appear a window and there you will realize the name of each file and of each location (folder) used as stored. using (always in rescue management) save by name, you can change your name or rescue location.
in the case of copies of the products it is preferable to use: menu/file/invia a/directory, in that way it will copy all the files (products and parts) eliminating all the links to the original positions, making them so independent.
this is also the way to fully and functionally export your work to the customer or colleague.
But be careful that having "different" files with "equal" names scattered around folders is however the best way to get into trouble.. .
when you issue an official file, it must not be changed anymore, otherwise you have to change the name, or add a revision suffix

Dear gianni, as always besides being kind, you are always extremely precise and exhausting. Thank you! I will keep your advice well.

 

[fidippide]

you tried with the "new from" function

I use it just in this case, then start also from a .catdrawing and you can recreate the .catproduct and .catpart of the project you want to edit
Before saving you can rename the files, if you go better, with saving management but by default catia already adds "_1" in addition to changing the*id* of the file to make it completely independent from the old.

thanks yoke, could you explain to me the functions of the command "new from"? Thank you.

 

[fidippide]

in the case of copies of the products it is preferable to use: menu/file/invia a/directory, in that way it will copy all the files (products and parts) eliminating all the links to the original positions, making them so independent.

I tried to use the command "Send to" but when I go to "Save Management" the new files always refer to the original ones. rather annoying.

 

[Giogo]

thanks yoke, could you explain to me the functions of the command "new from"? Thank you.

to start generating a copy of a catprodut
see what appears in this window and then see what saves you in rescue management
at the end re-launches catia and controls the result

 

[fidippide]

View attachment 51784to start generating a copy of a catprodut
see what appears in this window and then see what saves you in rescue management
at the end re-launches catia and controls the result

then: I made a copy with "send a" of a catproduct to a new folder and then I used the command "new from" on this copy of the catproduct. from "saving management" I see the correct path, that is in the new folder. but even without using "new from" he had moved the files correctly. :unsures:

 

[Giogo]

then: I made a copy with "send a" of a catproduct to a new folder and then I used the command "new from" on this copy of the catproduct. from "saving management" I see the correct path, that is in the new folder. but even without using "new from" he had moved the files correctly. :unsures:

use new from immediately otherwise it makes no sense
I "send to " I didn't use it... I will try in the future

 

[gianni55]

I tried to use the command "Send to" but when I go to "Save Management" the new files always refer to the original ones. rather annoying.

lo ripeto: catia keeps files and folder paths in memory, so if you did "send to" and you still have the open caty session, in rescue management always see the original files, i.e. those that originated the "inviated" files. if you close the caty session and then Open the product from new folder, the rescue management path must be correct!

 

[fidippide]

lo ripeto: catia keeps files and folder paths in memory, so if you did "send to" and you still have the open caty session, in rescue management always see the original files, i.e. those that originated the "inviated" files. if you close the caty session and then Open the product from new folder, the rescue management path must be correct!

I have not understood the standard rescue procedure but I have understood that you must always check in "saving management". is not trivial cmq. Thank you!

 

[gianni55]

then: I made a copy with "send a" of a catproduct to a new folder and then I used the command "new from" on this copy of the catproduct. from "saving management" I see the correct path, that is in the new folder. but even without using "new from" he had moved the files correctly. :unsures:

as rightly says yoke, using "new from" on a copy doesn't make sense, and the fact that it had moved your files correctly, is normal, you obviously closed caia and you reopened it in the right folder (while first not)

 

[gianni55]

the command "new from" is a valid command that must be used appropriately, if used on a single part, it is very useful as it generates a new part with a new uuid (read the posts in the high infrastructure section), if used with a product, generates a complete double of everything, but everything, adding the "_1"
that frankly it is better to avoid, if for example I have a product where there are 1000 details, on all, also brugoles, dice and washers are renamed with _1
now, in design, if the name changes, the object must also be different or modified, to change a commercial caterpillar really seems a countersensitivity.
other problem is that if it is modified with a suffix _1 file name, does not change the name of the anniversary and the number part, which are the internal identifiers to the file, so if I load the same detail.

if I send a customer or connect a part with a different number, it was also only with the _1, it should call me to ask me what I have changed (and I myself must know what I have changed), with all the details with the _1 becomes a delirio

 

[gianni55]

I have not understood the standard rescue procedure but I have understood that you must always check in "saving management". is not trivial cmq. Thank you!

look, unfortunately it is even more complicated than I said, standard procedures is difficult to set them, however to give some suggestions:

1) I generate a product with its parts, It's just me: I save it in a folder with the same name as the father product and I keep working until I'm done

2) I want to make a variant of study or look for one or more solutions who satisfy me without wanting to change what I have already done: with "send a" I send a clone to a new folder (which I renounce with suffix var_01) I close caia I reopen it in that folder and I work there

3) I make so many variations in the same way until I reach the purpose, when I finish, I put unused folders in an old folder and only quella validatesif I have delivered the job and I must change it:

4) if I change a part: I open a caty session, I follow "new from" but I change the file name and number part, perhaps adding as suffix rev_01, I close the catia session

5) if I change the product, I open a catia session, I make a "send to" to a new folder that has the product name with rev_01, I close the catia session, I open a new one, I open the product inside the new folder and with save with name I renounce it with rev_01, and then proceed to remove or add , or move the parts

in this way:
if you load the new part with rev_01 together with the rest you will have no conflict
if you load the old product and the new set, you can analyze differences without any conflict

at the end is simple:
modified file: name always different
unmodified files: names always equal

 

[fidippide]

the command "new from" is a valid command that must be used appropriately, if used on a single part, it is very useful as it generates a new part with a new uuid (read the posts in the high infrastructure section), if used with a product, generates a complete double of everything, but everything, adding the "_1"
that frankly it is better to avoid, if for example I have a product where there are 1000 details, on all, also brugoles, dice and washers are renamed with _1
now, in design, if the name changes, the object must also be different or modified, to change a commercial caterpillar really seems a countersensitivity.
other problem is that if it is modified with a suffix _1 file name, does not change the name of the anniversary and the number part, which are the internal identifiers to the file, so if I load the same detail.

if I send a customer or connect a part with a different number, it was also only with the _1, it should call me to ask me what I have changed (and I myself must know what I have changed), with all the details with the _1 becomes a delirio

abusing as usual of your kindness gianni, could you write me a correct procedure (pointed list) to proceed with a new revision of the work on caia? I explain better: I have a folder (e.g. rev2) that contains catpart and catproduct and I want to start a new reviosion (rev3) starting obviously from the previous one; how do I move the files contained in the rev2 folder in the rev3 folder making them completely independent? of course some files will be exactly the same in the 2 revisions (not all the pieces are under review). Thank you very much!

 

[gianni55]

I explain better: I have a folder (e.g. rev2) that contains catpart and catproduct and I want to start a new reviosion (rev3) starting obviously from the previous one; how do I move the files contained in the rev2 folder in the rev3 folder making them completely independent?

accurate that files are not movedi, but are copied and made independent, remember, not moved, but copied and made independentopen cat
open the product of rev_02
send to rev_03 folder
Close Cat

open cat
open the product in the rev_03 folder (and should be independent, you can check them in saving management)
work
when saving you open rescue management, to be sure to save in rev_03 folder

 

[fidippide]

accurate that files are not movedi, but are copied and made independent, remember, not moved, but copied and made independentopen cat
open the product of rev_02
send to rev_03 folder
Close Cat

open cat
open the product in the rev_03 folder (and should be independent, you can check them in saving management)
work
when saving you open rescue management, to be sure to save in rev_03 folder

Yes, copied and made independent, not moved; I used a incorrect term. I'll try soon. Thank you very much!