created a custom cartilage.

[Ramaja]

I press that vectorworks is new to me, and that I only bought it for ten days, so for experts what I write will be obvious, but I start to hate manuals: seem written not to be understood, not to mention the idea of breaking the explanations on multiple volumes (see base + architecture)

I followed the procedure to create a custom cartilage creating a symbol with the geometry of the cartilage and a card associated with the fields to fill. I think I have somehow achieved some sort of result. . .
my problem now is that the manual tells me to add the symbol "#" to the end of the fields for which I want to get a multi-rigue space (for example the explanation of a table, or all the names of the owners of a property). so I did, but the text, instead of going to head as planned, continues to infinity, leaving the cartiglio and invading the design.
Is there a way to create lateral limits to the text so as to force it to head?

Where am I wrong?

 

[zetadierre]

It seems to me that what you want to do and very simple, I don't understand where your problem is. Usually a text box, when selected, can be formatted by the information palette, and scaled through the scaling handles. I have never deepened the use of the text, but it seems to me that there is no need.. :

 

[lory.b]

I'll tell you... I've never been able to get the text to head.
I didn't even know about this "#" option but I just checked that it doesn't work. but I'm on international.
I do.

 

[pla]

the use of the # character works as documented, in the sense that it allows to define multiline fields. a multiline field provides for the possibility to go ahead with return, does not provide that the field is automatically justified.
In your case, you can put some heads in order to break the text so that it is recomprehended in the space of the paper.

I also don't understand your perplexity in breaking the explanation on multiple volumes. It has been done for two reasons: to divide the functions according to the version (if you have the basic you do not have the architect functions), but above all to have volumes that can be printed. it will seem anachronistic but in sawcom we continue to print the manuals of vectorworks and the typography impose a maximum of pages beyond which it is not possible to bind.

 

[Ramaja]

the use of the # character works as documented, in the sense that it allows to define multiline fields. a multiline field provides for the possibility to go ahead with return, does not provide that the field is automatically justified.
In your case, you can put some heads in order to break the text so that it is recomprehended in the space of the paper.

I also don't understand your perplexity in breaking the explanation on multiple volumes. It has been done for two reasons: to divide the functions according to the version (if you have the basic you do not have the architect functions), but above all to have volumes that can be printed. it will seem anachronistic but in sawcom we continue to print the manuals of vectorworks and the typography impose a maximum of pages beyond which it is not possible to bind.

I understand the need, but for those with vw never had to do can be frustrating duty jumping from one manual and the other trying to follow a single thread of explanation.
I tried to press enter while entering the data in the navigation menu after putting the character # but it just switches to the next field.
the point is that the connection, does not seem to take into account the space for the text that has decided to leave available inside the cartiglio in the horizontal sense and then continues to write progressively widening outside the cartiglio itself.
I will try to make some other evidence and see if it is possible to break the text in multiple parts going to head somehow.

 

[pla]

I'm afraid I don't understand!
the custom cartiglio must be built as documented in the manual and inserted through the square instrument.
the data in the cartiglio should be inserted by clicking the data change button (information change) when the square is selected.

What do you mean by navigation menu? ? ?

 

[zetadierre]

I understand the need, but for those with vw never had to do can be frustrating duty jumping from one manual and the other trying to follow a single thread of explanation.

I understand your perplexity and the difficulty in dealing with a new software. vectorworks like so many other software offers an infinity of commands and tools to do everything, and the manual as such must be complete, and therefore for its constitution a "matton", but without possibility any other. my drawing prof at the first year made us a quick example about what it means to learn from a manual and what is real life by illustrating how it is described (does not focus anything I know) paste to carbonara: a manual would make us explain how a cell of an egg is composed and then switch to the description of the various layers of the shell etc. Maybe a friend of yours says: an egg to the head, a red every two, beat a little with grain and pepper, while you let go of the bacon when the dough is turned around and eat.

Now, leaving aside the culinary example that I think fit is obvious one thing: Let's not just explain how manuals. and in fact the use of sofware in the profession is the mirror of this attitude: often those who do not receive a "cad education" make drawings that those who work with a little order when they see them pass the white hair and eyes out of the orbits. However, these professionals also manage their work somehow.
right or wrong that it is, vectorworks allows you to do the 7 wonders, but if you're just approaching this software, don't make the traumatic thing more than you need: for the moment let stand customised carts etc. rather use well glossy presentation and viewport design, and when you are on a table in the glossy presentation you create a category "cartiglio" and draw us with lines and polygons what you really want to have in scale 1.1. then duplicate the tables finished the settings. It is certainly not the most powerful method, but you risk blocking yourself and having a rejection for a software that is only different in the setting, that's all. then time in time you will design ad hoc carts.

ps: however the vw manual, compared to others, is much more manageable, believe me.

Good luck, let us know:

 

[Ramaja]

I try to explain myself better even if it is not easy without looking at the same screen: I'm on a PC right now while the evidence was on mac yesterday.
the window to my right is called "info-object" in the base interface (pc).
Once the virtual sheet is squared and placed my cartiglio in place, selecting the latter, in the info-object window," the editable fields of the cartiglio appear.
in the fields I had previously marked with # pressing enter, I do not go to head, but I pass to the field that follows.
It may have been wrong to insert some data into the creation of the cartilage, I don't know, and yet I think I have followed the instructions. . .
I'll make a few more tests later to see if I solve the problem.

Thanks anyway for the help though I imagine it's not easy.

 

[pla]

try using the return button on the keyboard and not on the numeric keypad

 

[Ramaja]

I went back to Mac so I can repeat yesterday's steps.
at the moment I only have the Apple wireless keyboard that has a single key sending.
in the "info" window, choosing the "data" menu after selecting the cartiglio from me created, appear the fields of the card associated with it.
in the lower part "card data" I can edit the content.
the record of the card was for example called "information#" which should make the field multiriga. but when I try to go ahead with "enter" after writing something, I go to the next field, as if it ignores the character #

 

[lory.b]

the record of the card was for example called "information#" which should make the field multiriga. but when I try to go ahead with "enter" after writing something, I go to the next field, as if it ignores the character #

I did your same paperwork today that we use in the studio.
is a symbol with some text parts linked to records to be edited by the info stand without having to edit the symbol.
if I press enter or return or for it, I pass to the next field, while having added to the record the character #.
but I am interested in this; I'd like to understand.
I do.

 

[Ramaja]

Then I see you're the same as my problem.
It would be interesting if pla, who works for videocom could give us an opinion.

 

[pla]

I did your same paperwork today that we use in the studio.
is a symbol with some text parts linked to records to be edited by the info stand without having to edit the symbol.
if I press enter or return or for it, I pass to the next field, while having added to the record the character #.
but I am interested in this; I'd like to understand.
I do.

lory
I'm sorry, but ramaja took you off the road. # character only works if you use the square tool (sheet border) and not in general.
it is essential to follow the instructions provided by the manual. if you do not do it and try to proceed as it does ramaja, you do not get the desired result.

summarizing: it is necessary to create customized cartilage following the instruction. fields should be compiled not in the information palette data panel, but through the appropriate button in the info after selecting a square object.

 

[lory.b]

summarizing: it is necessary to create customized cartilage following the instruction. fields should be compiled not in the information palette data panel, but through the appropriate button in the info after selecting a square object.

Thank you pla, now I understand. It's still an interesting function.
I have to tell you, however, that for a moment I hoped I could go ahead with the text linked to the record.
patience, indeed, will be a voice to add to your wishlist
I do.

 

[Ramaja]

strangely when I try to change the cartiglio as indicated by pla tells me that it has no connected data, or there is no strange cartiglio because I created it by step the manual and in the window "data" the fields appear correctly and are editable. . .
I'll try to recreate him tomorrow and see what happens.

 

[Ramaja]

I managed to create a working cartilage but only importing it into the file "personal documents.vwx". The only strange thing is that when I create a new file and I fire the layout. selecting the item to be assigned, the novo cartilage created by me appears twice (even if I made the import one time).
for the rest it works as the instructions say and to ensure that the text is distributed correctly on several lines you need to go manually