creation wizard holes together

[tanticapelli]

Hello, everyone.

I'm drilling parts together in "modification part" mode.

the sketches that place the holes have references bound to other parts fruit of coupling.

so that if I change the coupling as a result they automatically move the holes, and so far everything ok.

sin that because of this the axieme has become very slow.

how can I make the drilling sketches independent in a single stroke (now the positions are definitive and I no longer care about automation) in order to lighten the assemblies? It's getting really exasperating working with this slowness.

I hope that I should not enter every sketch by breaking external references and setting new independent relationships. . .

Thank you.

so many hairs

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

If you've already done the holes in this way, you just have to stop/delete references
next time try to use the guided drilling of asses with propagation to the parts (assieme function) or the series fori

 

[tanticapelli]

If you've already done the holes in this way, you just have to stop/delete references
next time try to use the guided drilling of asses with propagation to the parts (assieme function) or the series fori

I tried the drilling system together with propagation to the parts in a much smaller and complex set of this but it became a turnkey, and here on the forum you had rightly advised me to drill inside the part

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

then you just have to stop, delete or block references

 

[tanticapelli]

then you just have to stop, delete or block references

I'm getting a beard more beautiful than that of a baby.

 

[tanticapelli]

I'm getting a beard more beautiful than that of a baby.

I'm getting a beard more beautiful than that of a baby.

or perhaps it would be better to maintain the automatisms on the holes (there is always some change on the design solutions...) and make all the fixed parts suspending later the couplings that were to be revealed critical? Could you speed up the axieme?

so many hairs

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

references instead of interrupting them you can block them, as I wrote above, which means that there is no continuous recalculation of the parts (it should be the reason for slowing down I think) but you do not lose the chance to restore it later.
right button on function/shocket references>lock all

 

[tanticapelli]

references instead of interrupting them you can block them, as I wrote above, which means that there is no continuous recalculation of the parts (it should be the reason for slowing down I think) but you do not lose the chance to restore it later.
right button on function/shocket references>lock all

Thanks massive! I had seen that function but I had not understood the utility. . .

Doing a parallel with the mating speech best (do not make mechanical parts in motion) fix the components always when possible?

so many hairs

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

components must always be fixed where possible. it is also necessary to block the rotation of the cylindrical parts (such as screws, rosettes, seeger, pins...) if it does not create conflicts. also be careful not to make excessive couplings (type to make a coupling distance and parallel between two faces)

 

[tanticapelli]

references instead of interrupting them you can block them, as I wrote above, which means that there is no continuous recalculation of the parts (it should be the reason for slowing down I think) but you do not lose the chance to restore it later.
right button on function/shocket references>lock all

I still ask you a question about this:
if I have a part with many configurations (derived and not) which have holes with sketches having external references, as I go on drilling together in edit part the software slows more and more.

However, I cannot block the external references of the part otherwise I do not add new ones.

how can I do to speed up the drilling procedure without blocking the external references of the part?

Thank you! ! !

so many hairs

 

[tanticapelli]

Don't let me add new ones

I mean holes with external references.. .

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

to give a valid answer is difficult without analyzing the situation on the spot, that maybe it is not solveable for how the work must be managed
Anyway I try:
try to change the item settings in the system options tab > external references > load reference documents (you have four choices, I would propose for stress o No.)
alternatively block references as already discussed and if you have to make changes you reactive them then re-lock them; laborious and repetitive method, but if there are no other roads.. .

 

[tanticapelli]

to give a valid answer is difficult without analyzing the situation on the spot, that maybe it is not solveable for how the work must be managed
Anyway I try:
try to change the item settings in the system options tab > external references > load reference documents (you have four choices, I would propose for stress o No.)
alternatively block references as already discussed and if you have to make changes you reactive them then re-lock them; laborious and repetitive method, but if there are no other roads.. .

the problem is precisely the changes, they are an exasperating slowness. . .

 

[tanticapelli]

surely external references have their own weight, even when they work well without conflicts.

But I convinced myself that a part with many configurations and many functions connected to them in various combinations slows down the part and consequently all the operations connected to it together.

I decided that I will no longer use the configurations but I will use many parts in default configuration properly renamed.

the question is: as I am suffering a lot to reset the axieme that has become as already said unmanageable for problems of slowness on the guided holes in a part with many configurations, I would like to know if I can turn a single configuration into a part itself without that this new part losing the references of the axieme (I would like to avoid having to regroup everything.

is this possible?

thank you I am really smacked and I also took a dick because I am putting too much time.

so many hairs

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

In theory, do a couple of tests before you start shipped with backups for possible recovery, make copies of the file and in each copy maintain a single configuration by eliminating everything you do not need.
references in that configuration will remain.
at this point in the axieme you replace component by selecting the original of which you made copies and replacing it with its copy containing the specific configuration.
the couplings will remain valid being the identical files and if in the copy maintains original configuration name and avoid possible identification problems.

 

[tanticapelli]

Hello everyone.. .

in "link" to this discussion https://www.cad3d.it/forum1/threads/passare-da-solidworks-a-inventor.52553/I would like to know if with inventor there is the possibility to create holes with external references in the parts but in the context (as illustrated above) but dependent on external references.

in good substance I would like to know whether to change the coupling between the parts also moves the hole as in solidworks (as long as the external references are selected in the part file)

Thank you! ! !

so many hairs

 

[MassiVonWeizen]

But wouldn't it be better to post the request in the inventor section?

 

[tanticapelli]

Yes you are right

 

[tanticapelli]

hello to all, in relation to the above Filipino, what would have happened in terms of performance (velocity of operation of the assieme) if I had used the "overview set of holes" from the assist as described by the online guide?

Looks like a door.

but how would it behave in drilling different configurations of the same part?

thanks to everyone as always

so many hairs

 

[tanticapelli]

Good Easter to all!

so many hairs