Cut together files from multiple users.

[ipotemusa]

I noticed with amazement that on inventor you can open the same contemporary file from multiple users, and only the first that saves "has the best" on others, forced then or to change name or to lose changes... .
Is there any wrong setting or is it normal like this?
to manage projects simultaneously by multiple people is it necessary to use the vault? or is there any setting that "march" the read-only file if it is opened by someone else?

 

[Avoplus]

that I know, only with the vault (or similar).
Maybe, and I say maybe, you can do something with the vba, but it's worth it? o.o.

 

[cacciatorino]

but isn't that something that depends (also) on the operating system running on the server?

 

[Ilario]

only vault or productstream (which I do not remember if it changed name) allow a similar thing.

 

[Stiky]

I noticed with amazement that on inventor you can open the same contemporary file from multiple users, and only the first that saves "has the best" on others, forced then or to change name or to lose changes... .
Is there any wrong setting or is it normal like this?
to manage projects simultaneously by multiple people is it necessary to use the vault? or is there any setting that "march" the read-only file if it is opened by someone else?

you have no choice but to install vault, iv behaves exactly like word, excel, try to imagine what could happen while working on a set with a few thousand parts.....:biggrin:

 

[ipotemusa]

you have no choice but to install vault, iv behaves exactly like word, excel, try to imagine what could happen while working on a set with a few thousand parts.....:biggrin:

word and excel tell you that the file is already in use, not fan of anything... .
Unfortunately it does not depend on me, I am only an operator, and the system administrator is against the use of vault, says that it drastically slows down the network.... confirmed? or are they paranoid?
then, is it so complicated to implement the vault or not?

 

[cacciatorino]

word and excel tell you that the file is already in use, not fan of anything... .
Unfortunately it does not depend on me, I am only an operator, and the system administrator is against the use of vault, says that it drastically slows down the network.... confirmed? or are they paranoid?
then, is it so complicated to implement the vault or not?

also solid edge opens the file in read-only if it is already open on another location, I don't know if due to its merit or because the samba-linux server automatically puts it in an exclusive ceasefire.

 

[Stiky]

word and excel tell you that the file is already in use, not fan of anything... .
Unfortunately it does not depend on me, I am only an operator, and the system administrator is against the use of vault, says that it drastically slows down the network.... confirmed? or are they paranoid?
then, is it so complicated to implement the vault or not?

ok, report, but the result does not only change who logs first can save the file, the other bugs.. .
Moreover if you change a part that your colleague has opened in another together who warns that it has changed... .

inventor also has the ability to manage project files that provide multi-user work, but sincerely it is so much that I use vaults that I no longer remember how they work, should be explained in the help.

vault is an application to install on a server and is based on sql microsoft database. with the latest generation servers (square rams and quadricore processor) you can virtualize the machine and install the vault on the virtualized server without delay for the network and other applications running on the server. for my vault experience only needs ram (at least 3gb) and disk space (proportional to how many files treated).
to give an idea I have an old dedicated server (p. iv 2gb ram, 120gb hard disk) we are 6 users with an archive of about 10000 files.
for my experience I would recommend it immediately!:smile:

 

[MauroTC]

in the company we work the old way, with projects in shared mode;
the setting, in order to enjoy the old mode, is located in
application options > general > check on "creation of existing types of project".
you work well enough; if you open something that others are using (and have extracted) you work practically in read alone and you can not save unless I release the part/aid/drawing.
old way, in short, that almost everyone will know. . .

 

[ipotemusa]

in the company we work the old way, with projects in shared mode;
the setting, in order to enjoy the old mode, is located in
application options > general > check on "creation of existing types of project".
you work well enough; if you open something that others are using (and have extracted) you work practically in read alone and you can not save unless I release the part/aid/drawing.
old way, in short, that almost everyone will know. . .

Sorry, but it doesn't work.
I enabled the check you indicated, but things don't change, we still open the same file and no message, the first that saves is appropriate of the file (and not the last)
how do you "activate" the shared mode? on the project lets me select single or vault, the other modes are in unselectable gray.

 

[Stiky]

Sorry, but it doesn't work.
I enabled the check you indicated, but things don't change, we still open the same file and no message, the first that saves is appropriate of the file (and not the last)
how do you "activate" the shared mode? on the project lets me select single or vault, the other modes are in unselectable gray.

to enable the "old" project file you must check the "enabled creation of existing design types" box in the "general" tab of inventor options.

 

[Ilario]

I believe that he did, but then to "enable" a "single user" project in a "shared" project you need to set the "single user" project in a different way, substantively you just have to delete the path of "work area" and set it in "work group search path", then you can enable the project "shared".

Then as functions I don't know exactly, I think like vault, but I didn't know where to extract the stuff seen chje folders unlike the vault should not be mapped, plus it doesn't warn you as the vault of extraction and storage. . Boh...

 

[MauroTC]

Sorry, but it doesn't work.
I enabled the check you indicated, but things don't change, we still open the same file and no message, the first that saves is appropriate of the file (and not the last)
how do you "activate" the shared mode? on the project lets me select single or vault, the other modes are in unselectable gray.

I don't know. .
to me both in the 2008 vers. and in 2009 that I use currently works as said.

If I remove the tick, when I go to create a project I have the possibilities that you list as well; I have the opportunity to create projects in the old mode.
I attach the screenshots just made by activating what just said...

Hi.

 

[ipotemusa]

in the company we work the old way, with projects in shared mode;
the setting, in order to enjoy the old mode, is located in
application options > general > check on "creation of existing types of project".
you work well enough; if you open something that others are using (and have extracted) you work practically in read alone and you can not save unless I release the part/aid/drawing.
old way, in short, that almost everyone will know. . .

works, you have to use a project in shared or semi-isolated mode. . I don't understand, what's the difference?
Does anyone have a link to find more complete information than the project management guide and its settings?
then I struggled to find how to release the extracted components (just intuitive location...) cmq now at least we can not "fresh" the "hidden" files.
cmq do not understand why this operation so complicated
thanks above all to :finger: maurotc :finger: who accompanied me in these settings
silvio

 

[MauroTC]

for a user manual if you try to search on google
manual introductory inventor ita 10
find a pdf...
refers to the 10, but everything should be applicable as much as you need.. .

then, since you have deepened, you will have seen that there is also the possibility of "fregating" (voluntarily) the files, using "good extraction" and then removing it to the current owner; to use in case of emergency (which I know, if the other is absent and did not release the parts... )

 

[legnano]

Now I try.

 

[legnano]

in the company we work the old way, with projects in shared mode;
the setting, in order to enjoy the old mode, is located in
application options > general > check on "creation of existing types of project".
you work well enough; if you open something that others are using (and have extracted) you work practically in read alone and you can not save unless I release the part/aid/drawing.
old way, in short, that almost everyone will know. . .

excuse me: I would like to know if in a shared mode design (between two pcs) project files can be contained in a partition of one of the two pcs shared with another pc?. I did the test but the attached error message appears to me. What is the correct procedure? where to allocate project files?

greetings