dassault starts with the cloud

[SolidUser]

We thought they were future visions and instead, here we are.
Everything is moving on the cloud.
- google docs
- office 360
- windows 8
- the new apple os
- for example I see my films, music and images wherever there is an internet connection through my nas synology.

and now the cads.
I remember that the former swoon at the sw2008 presentation he thought the future was cloud.

bando alle ciance....read here..

 

[The_Matrix]

We thought they were future visions and instead, here we are.
Everything is moving on the cloud.
- google docs
- office 360
- windows 8
- the new apple os
- for example I see my films, music and images wherever there is an internet connection through my nas synology.

and now the cads.
I remember that the former swoon at the sw2008 presentation he thought the future was cloud.

bando alle ciance....read here..

strong.. .
no one in the world is using v6... and they push + into the concept.
Maybe they're right, huh?
I prefer to rely on traditional + concepts again.

 

[Tequila]

I would like to know how dassault is moving in terms of security, since in this imaginary cloud security is currently left in the background.

This system leaves a bit perplexed to me, since in order to operate necessary internet connection and here in Italy the telecommunications infrastructures are cag**. an example you have before us since in the country where I live the adsl is not there, the telecom told the mayor that they do not know when they will intervene and if they intervene, so I still use the "internet key".

second thing, if for some problem it blocks internet (it has already happened in the past more than once) who works in the cloud what does it do? loses the data of the moment? Do you have a steady production?

I would always like to know if while models there is no someone else on the other side that downloads your files, a bit like they screwed the cc data of sony.

 

[eboss]

I already agree also in the company from us we have an adsl that is worth the least to send mail and navigate...and I should connect them with 4/5 stations to work with this band? performance?
I can have a workstation here as I say with the performance I want etc. In that case?
We put antivirus and firewalls in the company to prevent malicious people from entering from who knows where and then going to work clouding?
and the pdm interfacing with management?
if I have to go to a client in iran/venezuela/angola to deal with my project how do I?
Daily, historicalized and incremental backups how it works if I have to recover a deleted file by mistake a month ago or yesterday?
we will probably know more soon!!! But I don't want to be a autogoal... autodesk could take advantage of it. . .

 

[Tequila]

in fact I am curious to see the big companies (automotives, aerospaces, etc.) as they will move in these terms, since already in these companies (I read it here on the forum a long time ago) the workstations are devoid of external storage media (usb, burners, etc.) just to prevent the data from turning even outside companies... Let's figure out if I'm around the net how happy they will be.

 

[SolidUser]

strong.. .
no one in the world is using v6... and they push + into the concept.
Maybe they're right, huh?
I prefer to rely on traditional + concepts again.

Of course, with st you spoke of revolution and visions for the future of a whole new way of working and designing.

now opens a new door in the world cad, to be improved as all things, but the idea or concept is already present and worked in certain situations, only that being dassault prevented parts.

even st does not do miracles and works in certain situations.

This new technology also works in certain situations.

We keep in mind that it is the start, but I find it a truly revolutionary idea in the world of cad.

I also wanted to remember that this idea is possible to implant it in the company servers, which is why I find it fantastic.

 

[cacciatorino]

I also wanted to remember that this idea is possible to implant it in the company servers, which is why I find it fantastic.

It seems to me that it can be a step forward for the offices of large companies that will actually have to manage a workload enormously lower, but from the user's point of view I think it changes very little. In the end if the cad motor is under the desk or in a centralized rack near or far who cares?

 

[SolidUser]

I would like to know how dassault is moving in terms of security, since in this imaginary cloud security is currently left in the background.

This system leaves a bit perplexed to me, since in order to operate necessary internet connection and here in Italy the telecommunications infrastructures are cag**. an example you have before us since in the country where I live the adsl is not there, the telecom told the mayor that they do not know when they will intervene and if they intervene, so I still use the "internet key".

second thing, if for some problem it blocks internet (it has already happened in the past more than once) who works in the cloud what does it do? loses the data of the moment? Do you have a steady production?

I would always like to know if while models there is no someone else on the other side that downloads your files, a bit like they screwed the cc data of sony.

cloud is a technology and how it can reside where you want.
then rent amazon technology plus dassault technology and implant it in your company.
we are already doing it with the management.

For security we need to read well and I think it's one of their priorities.
I don't know about protocols and encryption, but I think the current ones if well implemented do not allow to be attacked.

Perhaps in sony they have not adopted these protections, thinking not to have to be protected more than so.

for the rest we will see.

 

[Tequila]

Surely they are going to do the security thing, but who answers it in case of system crash? you say I can rent amazon technology more than dassault and implant it in my company, but if that happens? http://www.key4biz.it/news/2011/04/22/tecnologie/cloud_computing_amazon_foursquare_reddit_quora.htmlIf it happens that you plant the server in the company I can still work locally until they settle, productivity will not be 100% but I don't even stay sitting to warm up the chair.

I may not yet be quite clear about this cloud as functions or how it should work within the cad. Do you have any more info to give us?
Hi.

 

[SolidUser]

Surely they are going to do the security thing, but who answers it in case of system crash? you say I can rent amazon technology more than dassault and implant it in my company, but if that happens? http://www.key4biz.it/news/2011/04/22/tecnologie/cloud_computing_amazon_foursquare_reddit_quora.htmlIf it happens that you plant the server in the company I can still work locally until they settle, productivity will not be 100% but I don't even stay sitting to warm up the chair.

I may not yet be quite clear about this cloud as functions or how it should work within the cad. Do you have any more info to give us?
Hi.

everything evolves according to the number of participants.
Surely if cloud technology was more adopted, such problems would be solved with solutions.
It is clear that the problems are solved only when they arise.
It becomes difficult to prevent because computer science becomes very difficult to understand where the problem could start.
However even from us if the server of the pdm or the management is nailed and it happened, who makes use of it starts to draw his fingers.

I am 100% sure that the cloud will be the new future, already there are the basics and applications that adopt them.
for the cad you will see... .

 

[re_solidworks]

What to say, hardware costs and costs a lot to keep it to dot, the idea is good. I agree, however, that in the third world network which often makes remote links with teamviewer the answer of my line (which is not bad than the average) is bad and I would not be able to work on it.
I think that more than valid solutions proposed by dessault serve a remake of 90% of the Italian lines.

 

[sampom]

I think that more than valid solutions proposed by dessault serve a remake of 90% of the Italian lines.

everything evolves according to the number of participants.
Surely if cloud technology was more adopted, such problems would be solved with solutions.

in the current state, with the "bands" we find, the most participants would be deleterious for the performance... You know what?
the technology is there and is definitely ready, is the total reinstallation of the lines that is a utopia.

a little like high speed trains; is ready the car that makes Milan-Roman 360 per hour eek: imagine an accident), but on which railway caspita let us walk? :biggrin:... what then, where the hell do we want to run? I'm really in a hurry.

greetings
Marco:smile:

 

[eboss]

I agree I hope they will also apply the idea of clouding to the classic installation based on their pcs so that according to their needs infrastructure possibilities can decide.
a passage like that would be a bloodbath. followed by stunts to those from the adsl line in primis.

 

[The_Matrix]

Of course, with st you spoke of revolution and visions for the future of a whole new way of working and designing.

now opens a new door in the world cad, to be improved as all things, but the idea or concept is already present and worked in certain situations, only that being dassault prevented parts.

even st does not do miracles and works in certain situations.

This new technology also works in certain situations.

We keep in mind that it is the start, but I find it a truly revolutionary idea in the world of cad.

I also wanted to remember that this idea is possible to implant it in the company servers, which is why I find it fantastic.

I didn't say that the cloud is a bitch.
I said that ds is in great difficulty convincing their customers to switch to v6 (how many do you know they have it? It has been 3 years since the presentation!!!) and taking a further step forward seems to me a gamble.

Then, for charity, it will be a very interesting technology and that will spy on everyone...

the concept of pdm in large companies, with server farms implanted who knows where, is already similar not?
Maybe here is only worth the data and not for the programs? We'll see. .

 

[re_solidworks]

It remains the fact that to work there I always think it takes at least one hdsl (symmetric band) from 50-100 mbps. How many cities in Italy are served by a similar service? a taiwan are testing adsl gigabit, while here telecom still points on copper for 100 mbps.....
where I live there is no wired adsl and there are a series of competitors that provide a wifi service only for companies (they collect a lot) with quite precarious stability.
the most popular service offers a hdsl to 2 mbps. where you run if in a company with a similar connection there are 10 stations?
then it is very interesting not to have the workstation under the desk even because if there is a failure with any other pc you can go and the standard pcs warm less and are less noisy than workstations with flakes.
as said the idea is good, but before spreading it in Italy... .

 

[SolidUser]

in the current state, with the "bands" we find, the most participants would be deleterious for the performance... You know what?
the technology is there and is definitely ready, is the total reinstallation of the lines that is a utopia.

a little like high speed trains; is ready the car that makes Milan-Roman 360 per hour eek: imagine an accident), but on which railway caspita let us walk? :biggrin:... what then, where the hell do we want to run? I'm really in a hurry.

greetings
Marco:smile:

the problem of the band according to me is easily solved.
a few weeks ago the European space agency sent a satellite to bring the internet to all those uncovered areas.
even high quality a year ago was not available to all.
now all networks have their channels in hd.
the double phones are the same and the limit some have ago was 4 mb.
now with new compression algorithms we arrived at 10 mb.

thinking about streaming in 720p over the internet some time ago was unthinkable, everything was 480p.
now google gives you all the videos in hd.

technology and solutions evolve faster than we believe.

for the high-speed train, the line is new and dedicated.
I can agree, but behind all this there are so many reasons...

 

[SolidUser]

I didn't say that the cloud is a bitch.
I said that ds is in great difficulty convincing their customers to switch to v6 (how many do you know they have it? It has been 3 years since the presentation!!!) and taking a further step forward seems to me a gamble.

Then, for charity, it will be a very interesting technology and that will spy on everyone...

the concept of pdm in large companies, with server farms implanted who knows where, is already similar not?
Maybe here is only worth the data and not for the programs? We'll see. .

I have reported this new more for more to keep updated the technicians cad of the present and future technologies.
that dassault mistakes with customers, this does not concern me.
I am interested and intrigued by technology.

 

[sampom]

... I am interested and intrigued by technology.

in this we perfectly agree:

greetings
Marco:smile: